Guest Ray Report post Posted March 2, 2005 You know I just had an odd thought about my DVD taking forever to get here - maybe I have a neighbor/mailman who loves Samurai jack and stole it. So the question we have to ask is how many cool points do you get for liking Samurai Jack enough to steal it, and how many cool points do you lose? And is it enough to counteract the cool points you get for liking it in the first place?! Just some crazy idea that came into my head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 2, 2005 You know I just had an odd thought about my DVD taking forever to get here - maybe I have a neighbor/mailman who loves Samurai jack and stole it. So the question we have to ask is how many cool points do you get for liking Samurai Jack enough to steal it, and how many cool points do you lose? And is it enough to counteract the cool points you get for liking it in the first place?! Just some crazy idea that came into my head. One of the persons that delivers our mail for our route has thrown mail in the ditch before apparantly because he was ticked over losing an election thing. Scary, mail people are the one group of people never to tick off. Great ethical question here. Overall, you gotta lose cool points especially when you're taking stuff away from a celebrity. Taking away a Samurai Jack DVD from someone is denying them one of the top 3 pleasures in life. One of Samurai's Jack main beliefs is to always help people in need. If one steals away from another person than he is going against the very beliefs that Jack lives by. That's not cool. So I would say it goes like this: Liking Samurai Jack = 10, 000,000 cool points Watching Samurai Jack DVD and enjoying it = 20,000,001 cool points Stealing Samurai Jack DVD = -50,000,000 cool points Making Ray suffer = -52,000,000 cool points So going by this equation here we got 10 mil + 20 million +1 - 50 mill - 52 mill = -71,999,999 cool points. Definitely not cool. In fact I'd say that's cold. Now if he stole the DVD away from a store this could be a whole different situation with the cool points but that's a story for a whole different day. The only way I could possably see the mailman getting into the positive cool points range is if he stole the DVD and watched (in 1 sitting of course) but than repackaged it exactly the same way and sent it along its merry way to Ray. I still don't think he'd be in the postive range though. Watching DVD in 1 Sitting = 30, 000,000 cool points Sending Item Back After Repacking it which is kinda cool = 5 000 000 cool points Well, he's still at -36, 999, 999 cool points. Looks like he'd have to do something truly outrageous to become cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 3, 2005 More questions answered by Jay Roth! Posted by Dr. Frag : Mar 2 2005, 01:32 PM Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 1045 Member No.: 37 Joined: 4-May 03 That's so interesting. We all thought the episode 1 footage was never dubbed in the first place. Even Madman Entertainment only had a subtitled version to release. I remember in a later episode there was a flashback to some cut footage from episode 1 where Skunk says "You can't become a big time gangster if you act like that!". I guess the whole lot is hidden away somewhere. We never got to hear the young Atlas speak. Do you remember who did his voice? One scene that was cut, which I really wish hadn't been, was a live-action tag at the end of one show with Osamu Tezuka. I have no idea what he was saying, but it was deemed that Tezuka would be unknown to audiences, and that the scene was too far outside the show's format. Madman included this deleted scene on the extras DVD. I have the translation here: Tezuka: Hello, everyone. Any of you might have been wondering why Astro is wearing boots. Let's ask him to take them off. Well, look at them! Atom's legs are just like a girls. That's right, believe it or not, his legs ARE girl's!! (Wha-a-a-at!?) Well this is a top secret only Dr. Elephant knows... There is a story behind how Astro came to have girl's legs... A very sad, profound story.... It seems every reference to Japan was edited from the series, both visual and audio. Was that decision made by the Japanese? ................................................................................ ....................................... Newbie Post by Jay Roth Group: Members Posts: 6 Member No.: 447 Joined: 2-March 05 I don't remember who did little Atlas, but it may have been Debbie Holmes. I do remember that she worked on the pilot, for which the cast was much smaller. Every time we did a new script, I recorded who did what, so I'll soon be able to answer all those questions. Incidentally, we had another cast member, whom I don't think ever appears in the credits. She came in mostly for the third season, and her name is Celia Klehr. Yes, my impression was that it was to be sort of secret that this was a Japanese series -- that was Nippon TV's decision, to delete all references to Japan. At the time there was not the appreciation of Japanese animation that we have today. And this may have been based on the earlier experience of marketing the black and white series in the U.S. ................................................................................ ....................................... Post by Dr. Frag Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 1045 Member No.: 37 Joined: 4-May 03 QUOTE (Jay_Rath @ Mar 2 2005, 09:10 PM) Incidentally, we had another cast member, whom I don't think ever appears in the credits. She came in mostly for the third season, and her name is Celia Klehr. How was it broken down into "seasons" for the voice acting? I only ever saw the show as a straight run of 51 episodes. I have a lot of questions about the whole general process, so I'll just lump them together. How much technical stuff was done at your end for the dubbing? Were you given a copy of the show with the music and sound effects but no talking? And did you have to change the opening/closing credits yourselves? Was anything done by the University, or did they just provide the facilities? (This kind of thing gives me fleeting fantasies of being a voice actor just so I can find out how it all comes together. ) Thanks ................................................................................ ....................................... Post by Jay Roth Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Member No.: 447 Joined: 2-March 05 It wasn't broken down into seasons per se, but we were told when we advanced into the next year. We did keep track of where we were and how many more were coming. Not in a bad way -- we liked the work -- we just needed to schedule our time appropriately. And we did fall way behind. We got the shows without the openings or closes (we did those just once, and last; we never even saw them until the end). The dialogue tracks were stripped out, but the music and sound effects were still there -- usually. Once in awhile a sound effect was recorded in Japan on the dialogue track, and so our engineers had to drop in a new effect here in the U.S. Dogs, birds -- things like that -- they sometimes were "missing." The dubs were done at Wisconsin Public Television, which is funded by the University of Wisconsin and the Wisconsin Educational Television Network. The TV network grew out of the Wisconsin Public Radio Network, which in the 1980s was one of the last operations still doing original radio drama in the U.S. (Radio drama is obviously very similar to cartoon voice work.) We did the series in two different radio studios with video monitors. The pilot was taped in a TV studio. The producer, associate producer and director were drawn from those entities. The cast were all freelance. I had just come out of a comedy revue where I had to play lots of different characters with lots of different voices and accents -- that's why they asked me to do it. And I'd had a fair amount of radio drama experience. Believe it or not, I was 18 at the time. ................................................................................ ....................................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 3, 2005 More questions answered by Jay Roth! Posted by Dr. Frag : Mar 2 2005, 01:32 PM Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 1045 Member No.: 37 Joined: 4-May 03 That's so interesting. We all thought the episode 1 footage was never dubbed in the first place. Even Madman Entertainment only had a subtitled version to release. I remember in a later episode there was a flashback to some cut footage from episode 1 where Skunk says "You can't become a big time gangster if you act like that!". I guess the whole lot is hidden away somewhere. We never got to hear the young Atlas speak. Do you remember who did his voice? One scene that was cut, which I really wish hadn't been, was a live-action tag at the end of one show with Osamu Tezuka. I have no idea what he was saying, but it was deemed that Tezuka would be unknown to audiences, and that the scene was too far outside the show's format. Madman included this deleted scene on the extras DVD. I have the translation here: Tezuka: Hello, everyone. Any of you might have been wondering why Astro is wearing boots. Let's ask him to take them off. Well, look at them! Atom's legs are just like a girls. That's right, believe it or not, his legs ARE girl's!! (Wha-a-a-at!?) Well this is a top secret only Dr. Elephant knows... There is a story behind how Astro came to have girl's legs... A very sad, profound story.... It seems every reference to Japan was edited from the series, both visual and audio. Was that decision made by the Japanese? ................................................................................ ....................................... Newbie Post by Jay Roth Group: Members Posts: 6 Member No.: 447 Joined: 2-March 05 I don't remember who did little Atlas, but it may have been Debbie Holmes. I do remember that she worked on the pilot, for which the cast was much smaller. Every time we did a new script, I recorded who did what, so I'll soon be able to answer all those questions. Incidentally, we had another cast member, whom I don't think ever appears in the credits. She came in mostly for the third season, and her name is Celia Klehr. Yes, my impression was that it was to be sort of secret that this was a Japanese series -- that was Nippon TV's decision, to delete all references to Japan. At the time there was not the appreciation of Japanese animation that we have today. And this may have been based on the earlier experience of marketing the black and white series in the U.S. ................................................................................ ....................................... Post by Dr. Frag Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 1045 Member No.: 37 Joined: 4-May 03 QUOTE (Jay_Rath @ Mar 2 2005, 09:10 PM) Incidentally, we had another cast member, whom I don't think ever appears in the credits. She came in mostly for the third season, and her name is Celia Klehr. How was it broken down into "seasons" for the voice acting? I only ever saw the show as a straight run of 51 episodes. I have a lot of questions about the whole general process, so I'll just lump them together. How much technical stuff was done at your end for the dubbing? Were you given a copy of the show with the music and sound effects but no talking? And did you have to change the opening/closing credits yourselves? Was anything done by the University, or did they just provide the facilities? (This kind of thing gives me fleeting fantasies of being a voice actor just so I can find out how it all comes together. ) Thanks ................................................................................ ....................................... Post by Jay Roth Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Member No.: 447 Joined: 2-March 05 It wasn't broken down into seasons per se, but we were told when we advanced into the next year. We did keep track of where we were and how many more were coming. Not in a bad way -- we liked the work -- we just needed to schedule our time appropriately. And we did fall way behind. We got the shows without the openings or closes (we did those just once, and last; we never even saw them until the end). The dialogue tracks were stripped out, but the music and sound effects were still there -- usually. Once in awhile a sound effect was recorded in Japan on the dialogue track, and so our engineers had to drop in a new effect here in the U.S. Dogs, birds -- things like that -- they sometimes were "missing." The dubs were done at Wisconsin Public Television, which is funded by the University of Wisconsin and the Wisconsin Educational Television Network. The TV network grew out of the Wisconsin Public Radio Network, which in the 1980s was one of the last operations still doing original radio drama in the U.S. (Radio drama is obviously very similar to cartoon voice work.) We did the series in two different radio studios with video monitors. The pilot was taped in a TV studio. The producer, associate producer and director were drawn from those entities. The cast were all freelance. I had just come out of a comedy revue where I had to play lots of different characters with lots of different voices and accents -- that's why they asked me to do it. And I'd had a fair amount of radio drama experience. Believe it or not, I was 18 at the time. ................................................................................ ....................................... MORE QUESTIONS ANSWERED!! wildpegasus Posted: Mar 3 2005, 03:36 PM Hey Jay Roth Would you happen to know anything about the Canadian dub? ................................................................................ ........................................................ DrFrag Posted: Mar 3 2005, 03:50 PM Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 1046 Member No.: 37 Joined: 4-May 03 How long did it take to dub an episode, and what did the cast members do when their characters weren't featured? Did they get a few days off work? --------------------................................................................................ ....................... Jay_Rath Posted: Mar 3 2005, 10:43 PM Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Member No.: 447 Joined: 2-March 05 No, I don't know anything about a Canadian dub. I was surprised to learn of it from all of you. I don't know why such would be necessary, unless Nippon TV sold rights to the series like franchises, country by country, with each providing its own new voice tracks. We got weekends off. Usually the day started at 10 and ended at 4 or 5, but towards the end it would go until 10 or even midnight. Thanks to the long days and all the different voices in each episode, a lot of us developed thoat problems and colds. And lip-matching was a skill that we got better at as we went. It would roughly take a day and a half or two to do an episode, but some went more quickly than others. What really took time was then editing all the scenes back together, selecting the best takes, and so on. Patty (Astro) was pregnant during the pilot, so she was busy with her newborn baby when she wasn't working on the series. Richard also worked as a waiter, like all actors. For most of us, this was our only job, just because there wasn't time to do anything else. 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Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 11, 2005 Article that mentions Astroboy!! Humanoids With Attitude Japan Embraces New Generation of Robots By Anthony Faiola Washington Post Foreign Service Friday, March 11, 2005; Page A01 TOKYO -- Ms. Saya, a perky receptionist in a smart canary-yellow suit, beamed a smile from behind the "May I Help You?" sign on her desk, offering greetings and answering questions posed by visitors at a local university. But when she failed to welcome a workman who had just walked by, a professor stormed up to Saya and dished out a harsh reprimand. "You're so stupid!" said the professor, Hiroshi Kobayashi, towering over her desk. "Eh?" she responded, her face wrinkling into a scowl. "I tell you, I am not stupid!" Truth is, Saya isn't even human. But in a country where robots are changing the way people live, work, play and even love, that doesn't stop Saya the cyber-receptionist from defending herself from men who are out of line. With voice recognition technology allowing 700 verbal responses and an almost infinite number of facial expressions from joy to despair, surprise to rage, Saya may not be biological -- but she is nobody's fool. "I almost feel like she's a real person," said Kobayashi, an associate professor at the Tokyo University of Science and Saya's inventor. Having worked at the university for almost two years now, she's an old hand at her job. "She has a temper . . . and she sometimes makes mistakes, especially when she has low energy," the professor said. Saya's wrath is the latest sign of the rise of the robot. Analysts say Japan is leading the world in rolling out a new generation of consumer robots. Some scientists are calling the wave a technological force poised to change human lifestyles more radically than the advent of the computer or the cell phone. Though perhaps years away in the United States, this long-awaited, as-seen-on-TV world -- think "The Jetsons" or "Blade Runner" -- is already unfolding in Japan, with robots now used as receptionists, night watchmen, hospital workers, guides, pets and more. The onslaught of new robots led the government last month to establish a committee to draw up safety guidelines for the keeping of robots in homes and offices. Officials compiled a report in January predicting that every household in Japan will own at least one robot by 2015, perhaps sooner. Scientists and government authorities have dubbed 2005 the unofficial "year of the robot," with humans set to interact with their electronic spawn as never before at the 2005 World Expo opening just outside the city of Nagoya on March 25. At the 430-acre site, 15 million visitors are expected to mingle with some of the most highly developed examples of Japanese artificial intelligence, many of which are already on sale or will be within a year. Greeting visitors in four languages and guiding them to their desired destinations will be Mitsubishi Heavy Industries' yellow midget robot, Wakamaru. A trio of humanoid robots by Sony, Toyota and Honda will be dancing and playing musical instruments at the opening ceremony. Parents visiting the World Expo can leave their children in the care of a robotic babysitter -- NEC's PaPeRo -- which recognizes individual children's faces and can notify parents by cell phone in case of emergency. Also on display: a wheelchair robot now being deployed by the southern city of Kitakyushu that independently navigates traffic crossings and sidewalks using a global positioning and integrated circuit chip system. In June, Expo visitors can enter a robot room -- a more distant vision of the future where by 2020 merely speaking a word from your sofa will open the refrigerator door, allowing your personal robot assistant to deliver the cold beverage of your choice. "We have reached the point in Japan of a major breakthrough in the use of robot technology and our society is changing as a result," said Kazuya Abe, a top official at NEDO, the national institute in charge of coordinating science research and development. "People are and will be living alongside robots, which are seen here as more than just machines. This is all about AI" -- artificial intelligence, Abe said -- "about the creation of something that is not human, but can be a complement or companion to humans in society. That future is happening here now." While employing a measure of new technology, many such robots are envisioned merely as new interfaces -- more user-friendly means of combining existing ways of accessing the Internet or reaching loved ones through cell phone networks. In the quest for artificial intelligence, the United States is perhaps just as advanced as Japan. But analysts stress that the focus in the United States has been largely on military applications. By contrast, the Japanese government, academic institutions and major corporations are investing billions of dollars on consumer robots aimed at altering everyday life, leading to an earlier dawn of what many here call the "age of the robot." But the robotic rush in Japan is also being driven by unique societal needs. Confronting a major depopulation problem due to a record low birthrate and its status as the nation with the longest lifespan on Earth, Japanese are fretting about who will staff the factory floors of the world's second-largest economy in the years ahead. Toyota, Japan's biggest automaker, has come up with one answer in moving to create a line of worker robots with human-like hands able to perform multiple sophisticated tasks. With Japanese youth shying from so-called 3-K jobs -- referring to the Japanese words for labor that is dirty, dangerous or physically taxing -- Alsok, the nation's second-largest security guard company, has developed a line of robo-cops. The guard robots, one version of which is already being used by a client in southern Japan, can detect and thwart intruders using sensors and paint guns. They can also put out fires and spot water leaks. It is perhaps no surprise that robots would find their first major foothold in Japan. Japanese dolls and toys, including a moving crab using clockwork technology dating to the 1800s, are considered by some to be among the first robots. Rather than the monstrous Terminators of American movies, robots here are instead seen as gentle, even idealistic creatures epitomized by Astroboy, the 1960s Japanese cartoon about an electronic kid with a big heart."In Western countries, humanoid robots are still not very accepted, but they are in Japan," said Norihiro Hagita, director of the ATR Intelligent Robotics and Communication Laboratories in Keihanna Science City near Kyoto. "One reason is religion. In Japanese [shinto] religion, we believe that all things have gods within them. But in Western countries, most people believe in only one God. For us, however, a robot can have an energy all its own." A case in point is the Paro -- a robotic baby harp seal, developed with $10 million in government grants, that went on sale commercially this month for $3,500 each. All 200 units sold out in less than 50 hours. The seal is meant to provide therapy for the elderly who are filling Japanese nursing homes at an alarming rate while often falling prey to depression and loneliness. With 30 sensors, the seal begins over time to recognize its master's voice and hand gestures. It coos and flaps its furry white down in delight at gentle nuzzles, but squeals in anger when handled roughly. Researchers have been testing the robot's effect on the elderly at a nursing home in Tsukuba, about 40 miles northeast of Tokyo. During a recent visit by a reporter, the sad eyes of elderly residents lit up as the two resident robot seals were brought out. Tests have shown that the cute newcomers indeed reduce stress and depression among the elderly. Just ask Sumi Kasuya, 89, who cradled a seal robot while singing it a lullaby on a recent afternoon. "I have no grandchildren and my family does not come to see me very often," said Kasuya, clutching fast to the baby seal robot wiggling in her arms. "So I have her," she said, pointing to the seal. "She is so cute, and is always happy to see me." Special correspondent Akiko Yamamoto contributed to this report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 13, 2005 Cool Page! http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=...hl%3Den%26lr%3D ASTROBOY PICTURES OF THE DAY!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 13, 2005 IN case any of my Astroboy fan club unfortunately misses it here is some talk about Samurai Jack in the mark out moments for TV in this very forum! wildpegasus Posted: Mar 12 2005, 06:54 PM Royal Rumble winner Group: Members Posts: 2524 Member No.: 3049 Joined: 7-January 03 Just a few: Samurai Jack -- First Scotsman episode. Jack and the Scotsman fight on the bridge My So Called Life -- Ryanne is chained to the bed. Brian is attempted to use a key to free her. "Brian, you idiot. Stop. It's too big. It won't fit." Astroboy -- Every single freaking second. Smackdown -- A-Train bets on Beniot to beat Lesnar ................................................................................ ................................................................................ ..................................................... Vyce Posted: Mar 12 2005, 07:36 PM You're all on notice. Group: Members Posts: 5170 Member No.: 422 Joined: 8-February 02 Samurai Jack -- First Scotsman episode. Jack and the Scotsman fight on the bridge I marked out a lot for that show in general, but my favorite SJ mark-out moment was from the 90 minute pilot. Jack plows through about a hundred robotic scarabs. The final surviving bugs eye Jack in fear, and slowly begin to back away from Jack. Then Jack just stares at them and utters the coolest line of the entire series. "No - there is no escape." And the ass-kicking resumes. ................................................................................ ................................................................................ .................................................................. wildpegasus Posted: Mar 12 2005, 11:07 PM Vyce quote I marked out a lot for that show in general, but my favorite SJ mark-out moment was from the 90 minute pilot. Jack plows through about a hundred robotic scarabs. The final surviving bugs eye Jack in fear, and slowly begin to back away from Jack. Then Jack just stares at them and utters the coolest line of the entire series. "No - there is no escape." And the ass-kicking resumes. WP -- Yes, that was awesome. Right than and there was the moment you knew you were watching something truly special that just made you salivate at the future possabilites the show had. I really don't know what my favourite Samurai Jack moment is so I just picked one of my favourites. In reality it's impossable to pick a moment. Just another Samurai Jack moment. From Jack and The Three Archors -- The archors are just bombarding Jack with arrows and right before commercial break it looks like Jack is going to get nailed by one as it's headed right toward him and his back is against a tree. Jack in typically cool fashion pushes his sword upwards which than cuts the speeding arrow two allowing the arrow which is now in two pieces to harmlessly fall to each side of Jack. Classic and I marked out big time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest Monday Night Jericho Report post Posted March 14, 2005 I just watched "The Birth of Astroboy" (it took me a while to download;)) from the 1980s series. Good introduction, though they obviously had a lot of themes to set up in a relatively short period of time. The background to Toby and his father was a little on the rushed side; but that's understandable considering setting up the Astroboy story was more important. There were some really cool scenes in this (such the smashing of the icebergs... and how sweet is *that* theme music?); it ends on an interesting note that makes the viewer want to watch more. I'll probably d/l and watch a couple more episodes in the next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 14, 2005 I just watched "The Birth of Astroboy" (it took me a while to download;)) from the 1980s series. Good introduction, though they obviously had a lot of themes to set up in a relatively short period of time. The background to Toby and his father was a little on the rushed side; but that's understandable considering setting up the Astroboy story was more important. There were some really cool scenes in this (such the smashing of the icebergs... and how sweet is *that* theme music?); it ends on an interesting note that makes the viewer want to watch more. I'll probably d/l and watch a couple more episodes in the next week. Yup, they go at 200mph. No doubt. The 80s series has 52 episodes and yet they didn't even start to use up all their ideas. Still, the crazy thing is a lot of episodes could've easily been extended length wise. Is this Japanese dubbed or English dubbed? Because if it's English they don't show a LOT of stuff at the beginning and it will be more confusing. Stuff like the backstory for Atlas and Livian which is crucail in understanding everything about Atlas. The Japanese dub is still rushed however. Just some random thoughts as they pop into my mind: If you're at the icebergs that probably means you saw Atlas take Astro down into the sea via a wrestling hold. I know I marked out for that. Also marked out for "Ric Flair's" (I can't remember the real name for the music piece) music being played while Astro was being born. Right in synch with Toby's father hitting the button to activate Astro. -- Liked a couple of the comedy bits here too. The food eating bit was a good touch. -- Don't think it was meant to be comedy but when Toby's father is trying to reason with the female scientist not to destroy Astro he goes someting like, "He's a little boy. You're a woman. Don't you think he's cute?" -- Looved how the plans for Atlas were stolen. Innovative and cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Monday Night Jericho Report post Posted March 14, 2005 Is this Japanese dubbed or English dubbed? Because if it's English they don't show a LOT of stuff at the beginning and it will be more confusing. Stuff like the backstory for Atlas and Livian which is crucail in understanding everything about Atlas. The Japanese dub is still rushed however. It's English dubbed. Care to fill me in a little on the background of Atlas and Livian? If you're at the icebergs that probably means you saw Atlas take Astro down into the sea via a wrestling hold. I know I marked out for that. I don't remember that part. Did you say this was before or after the smashing of the icebergs? -- Don't think it was meant to be comedy but when Toby's father is trying to reason with the female scientist not to destroy Astro he goes someting like, "He's a little boy. You're a woman. Don't you think he's cute?" I don't remember that bit either. How far into the episode was it? Mine runs at a total of 21:42. -- Liked a couple of the comedy bits here too. The food eating bit was a good touch. Indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted March 14, 2005 Well I finally got my Samurai Jack DVD today. It looks like somebody stepped on the package! The cardboard case is torn and the plastic holding the DVD is cracked. On the positive side the DVD's themselves are undamaged. Watched part of the first episode today and it was great. Going to watch the rest later but I loved the part where the young Jack is sent all around the world to train. Really great. Anyway minus infinite cool points for whoever stepped on my DVD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 15, 2005 Is this Japanese dubbed or English dubbed? Because if it's English they don't show a LOT of stuff at the beginning and it will be more confusing. Stuff like the backstory for Atlas and Livian which is crucail in understanding everything about Atlas. The Japanese dub is still rushed however. It's English dubbed. Care to fill me in a little on the background of Atlas and Livian? If you're at the icebergs that probably means you saw Atlas take Astro down into the sea via a wrestling hold. I know I marked out for that. I don't remember that part. Did you say this was before or after the smashing of the icebergs? -- Don't think it was meant to be comedy but when Toby's father is trying to reason with the female scientist not to destroy Astro he goes someting like, "He's a little boy. You're a woman. Don't you think he's cute?" I don't remember that bit either. How far into the episode was it? Mine runs at a total of 21:42. -- Liked a couple of the comedy bits here too. The food eating bit was a good touch. Indeed. The Japanese dub is there so if you want to check it out go ahead. It'd be interesting to compare the two. Once you're in the server go to The Video Eps folder. Click on that and it should take you to 4 folders. Click on the 80s one. Click on the Raw folder which should take you into a folder of 25 episodes. The 2nd ep there looks to be a Japanese dub entitled "Birth of Astroboy". Now, it does say it's dubbed but I'm not sure if it's the Chinese subs or the English subs. This is the description -- Astroboy 01 - The Birth of Astro (80s jap dub with cntn sub).avi japanese, japanese subs. It would be worthwile to check it out. It may still be English subs because of a couple of different reasons though. Episode 2 is "Astroboy vs Atlas" and should be there too although I'm not sure which one it is. Backstory of Atlas and Livian : Quick summary -- Atlas is born off of stolen plans off of Astroboy. So basically they are twins except for one important feature. Atlas has the Omega Factor, a device that Dr. Boyton (Toby's father) had previously refused to use for his robot building when Skunk had approached him. Once in awhile you will see Astroboy's eyes blink red repeatably such as in the very first episode. This is because of their connection tothether Guiss is an evil scientist who had Atlas' plans stolen from the science intitute. He and Skunk are basically in cahoots together. They're the ones that use Atlas and try to influence him. THey teach him how to steal and all that bad stuff. Livian is a robot maid of Guiss. She is treated horrably and is abused by Guiss. Same thing with Atlas. Livian is worried about Atlas and is basically a mother and good influence on him in a world where Atlas is surrounded by evil. She tell Atlas that he's not a monstor. It is only when Atlas hears Livian words that he stops himself from killing Astroboy once he takes him down into the ocean. He doesn't really understand why he shouldn't kill Astro as it's mostly Livian's influence that prevents him from doing so. Guiss ends up killing Livian for knocking over a lamp and breaking it. When Atlas who is really just a little boy sees Livian in a million pieces he loses it and goes after Guiss. Atlas than who I believe is almost near death rebuilds? (this was never too clear, originally I thought he had commited suicide and someone else had rebuilt him) himself into a much bigger robot. He also rebuilds Livian and their relationship turns more into that of what you would expect from a wife and husband. However, Livian is still motherlike to him. I don't remember that part. Did you say this was before or after the smashing of the icebergs? Trying to remember. I think Atlas taking down Astro into the sea was slightly before or during the actual smashing of the icebergs.. I'll see if I can check it out tommorow. THe scene was probably taken out. There's at least 1 episode of footage deleted during the first 3 episodes of Astroboy. I don't remember that bit either. How far into the episode was it? Mine runs at a total of 21:42 The quote would be about two thirds thorugh the first Japanese ep. Dr. Boyton and the female scientist are in something resembling a tank debating on what to do about Astroboy. The tank gets out of control and gives Astroboy his first chance to be a hero. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 15, 2005 Well I finally got my Samurai Jack DVD today. It looks like somebody stepped on the package! The cardboard case is torn and the plastic holding the DVD is cracked. On the positive side the DVD's themselves are undamaged. Watched part of the first episode today and it was great. Going to watch the rest later but I loved the part where the young Jack is sent all around the world to train. Really great. Anyway minus infinite cool points for whoever stepped on my DVD! Good to hear the DVDs themselves weren't damaged. Yeah, I liked the training parts too. I'm always a mark for that kind of stuff. It was cool to see such variety in the training. Even Robin Hood! These are my 3 favourite episodes of the first season. It'll be interesting to see what yours are and compare. Episode III Episode VII -- The Blind Archors Episode XI -- Jack and THe Scotsman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted March 15, 2005 Finished Episode One. It was excellent. Noticed a completely unexpected tribute to Ben-Hur with the "No water for him!" line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 15, 2005 Finished Episode One. It was excellent. Noticed a completely unexpected tribute to Ben-Hur with the "No water for him!" line. Right. Ray, if you notice any tributes feel free to mention them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 17, 2005 Astroboy cels on E Bay! http://search.ebay.com/astro-boy-cels_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted March 17, 2005 Finished Episode One. It was excellent. Noticed a completely unexpected tribute to Ben-Hur with the "No water for him!" line. Right. Ray, if you notice any tributes feel free to mention them. This makes me wonder - is there a website that lists all of the tributes and references in SJ? that would be interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 17, 2005 Finished Episode One. It was excellent. Noticed a completely unexpected tribute to Ben-Hur with the "No water for him!" line. Right. Ray, if you notice any tributes feel free to mention them. This makes me wonder - is there a website that lists all of the tributes and references in SJ? that would be interesting. I never found one when I searched before but I never did too extensive a search. On tvtome.com there are some listed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2005 Astroboy Picture of the Day: My precious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 17, 2005 Good to see you here Insane Bump machine. While I'm talking to you here I would like to personally thank you for that avatar of the constant hip moving woman you had in your avatar awhile back. Ohtani of Time was a big fan of it as well. I was talking about this picture awhile back. This is what I had to say: Astro with an attitude?????????????????? Thank you sooo much Sony. Remember when I was complaining about how they were trying to turn Astro away from his roots in North America into some kind of Bart Simpson earlier in this thread? Well, this confirms it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Words can not describe how vomitish this makes me. This is what they try to teach our kids these days. Ay crumba, what a fabricless society we live in. Luckily, I'm not really into the 2003 series. The crazy thing is that from what I've seen Astro is not attitude at all in the series but in the US I hear they take stuff out that would be deemend inappropiate for youth (cuteness, naivity etc..) because we just can't have stuff like that corrupting our innocent youth. How would they survive seeing someone that was -- gasp -- somewhat "uncool"? The physcological scars would be pernamently implented forever in our children's brains corrupting their very actions for generations to come. Before you know it, the next thing they'll do is try to make Bugs Bunny cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2005 Can't believe I'm still remembered for that old avatar But I don't quite get your post. That DVD box contains the first series from 1963-66, not the 2003 one. Or are you referring to another picture and I'm just blind? I agree that he looks too angry on it, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 17, 2005 Can't believe I'm still remembered for that old avatar But I don't quite get your post. That DVD box contains the first series from 1963-66, not the 2003 one. Or are you referring to another picture and I'm just blind? I agree that he looks too angry on it, though. It's hypnotizing. You just start watching it and yuo can't take your eyes away from it. Weren't you the one that had the Little Red Riding hood avatar where she puts her hands on here face after seeing the well endowed creatures of the forest? My link to that *Japanese commercial is unfortunately dead but man that was hilarious. I would say even better than the aforementioned famous avatar. *Is there anything better than Japanese commercials? I say no! I'm extreamly sure that picture is for the 2000 series. The 60s are only available in Japan on DVD. The right stuf company has some US dub of the 60s but last I look I think they're all in VHS. The Australian? company Madman is thinking of putting some 60s stuff of Astroboy on DVD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2005 http://www.dvdasian.com/cgi-bin/dvdasian/1...tml?id=Nt2PTiEu ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites