"New" Astroboy trailer 2003 series

[Guest wildpegasus]

I suppose anime doesn't quite stick out as much as it used to because of all the special effects they can do in movies these days. Still, they'll always have my appreciation for being the first to show what the human imagination can really do especially since I started watching it before all the special effects started coming out. And trust me on this one. You will see imaginative stuff you'd never see in any other kind of medium.

 

Pah, so many films these days are dictated by special effects. It's so shallow that some films are actually almost based solely around how visually impressive they are. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against special effects; it's just that I'll take imagination and creativity over it any day.

 

Grave of the Fireflies is reccomended by everyone as one of the most depressing movies ever. As a matter of fact, I think Ohtani's Jacket just reccomended as a movie that hurt him badly in his moive thread over at smarkschoice.

 

I *really* must see this...

 

Spirited Away is a joy to watch. Same with Princess Monoke.

 

I've seen PM pimped all over the place, but have neglected to check it out thus far. What is the general theme?

 

I'll probably seek "Sprited Away" out in due time.

 

There's one thing about keeping your passion when you're young and strong. It's another thing alltogether to keep your passion after doing something that is so physical for so long. To keep the "eye of the tiger" for so long is such a proclaimation of fighting spirit. Rocky III is underrated in that respect because that message of how hard it is to maintain the "eye of the tiger" is so true in real life. I don't think enough people truly understood the message it was conveying in it.

 

It hurts me to watch Kobahsi sometimes. He is visably so hurt. You can see it in every movement he does in the ring. The movements don't have the speed they used to have. Yet, you can tell he's using every single fiber of his being in doing what he's doing. Kobashi's still working at his 110% and while that hurts me while watching him it also makes me smile at how determined someone can be. The pain he must be going through with every movement he does has got to be excruciating.

 

JHM recently said something along the lines of Kobashi being purity in a business that is heaving with infection... And that sums up Kenta really well in my estimation.

 

I would love to see Kobashi train (I assume you would as well) and see what kind of a schedule he maintains. I bet he's an animal in the gym. Though I do wonder though what kind of trouble he has with squats and other leg lifts considering that his knees are like jellyfish these days. I'm also curious about the neck-strengthening exercises he does - I wouldn't like to take a guess as to how long he could hold a bridge (I know Karl Gotch held one close to an hour).

I'll respond partialy to this now because I'm just home for a sec right now. I'll respond more later.

 

 

Pah, so many films these days are dictated by special effects. It's so shallow that some films are actually almost based solely around how visually impressive they are. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against special effects; it's just that I'll take imagination and creativity over it any day.

That's true. one thing I do love is watching special effects from "B" movies awhile back. It's interesting to see how realistic they can get it to be and what they do to achieve it and what they can achieve with it.

 

 

I've seen PM pimped all over the place, but have neglected to check it out thus far. What is the general theme?

 

Man vs Nature and all the conflicts that come with it. It was actually the second time watching this that made me appreciate it more. Great artwork. Not too much computer graphics.

 

 

I'll probably seek "Sprited Away" out in due time

 

Imaginative and different. I should rewatch some it day as I only watched it once. There's an underlying message in this about not exploiting children if I remember correctly.

 

JHM recently said something along the lines of Kobashi being purity in a business that is heaving with infection... And that sums up Kenta really well in my estimation.

 

100% correct.

 

 

I would love to see Kobashi train (I assume you would as well) and see what kind of a schedule he maintains. I bet he's an animal in the gym. Though I do wonder though what kind of trouble he has with squats and other leg lifts considering that his knees are like jellyfish these days. I'm also curious about the neck-strengthening exercises he does - I wouldn't like to take a guess as to how long he could hold a bridge (I know Karl Gotch held one close to an hour).

 

Uh, oh. That's a subject that I like to talk forever about and I have with my casual puroresu friend.

 

There's a commercial tape of 1/20/97 I believe and they show some backstory of Kobashi and Misawa. Than they show Kobashi training in the ring. He's doing the plyometric pushups with his training partner holding his legs. But getting to the real point they show him doing some neck exercises. And YES, Kobashi has one strong neck.

 

Imagine this. Sit on your side in a wrestling ring. Put a towel on the side of your head. Have your partner stand on the side of your head. Now raise your neck up and down sort of like you were doing oblique work. Yup, Kobashi was doing reps that way obviously building up the strength on the sides of his neck. That's tough and something that bodybuilders and weightrainers refrain from doing. For various reasons - it's hard to get equipment to build the neck and all that plus it's easily forgotten about. I've tried this movement. Of course I hadn't built my neck up but I still must say I was a long ways away from Kobashi level strength.

 

Kobashi not only has a flexable neck which has been proven now to be of most importance in the ring but obviously has a neck stronger than the majority of wresters out there. You won't see anyone from the WWE (home grown WWE stars) or the indys with necks like that and that is a mistake in my estimation. This should be part of the training program down in OVW or wherever along with incorporating flexability in other bodyparts. Batista always looks like he's going to break in two. A lot of the others look like they could break in half if they were stretched as well.

 

 

Interesting fact -- Kobashi injured his shoulder brenchpressing before and I believe it bothers him to this day.

 

Though I do wonder though what kind of trouble he has with squats and other leg lifts considering that his knees are like jellyfish these days

 

Just watching Kobashi the other day it's obvious he's lost weight no doubt due somewhat to not being able to train properly. In 2000 (I remember reading around that time he had a match with Akyima he couldn't even walk to a train without help from other wrestlers) he was definitely larger. Storm touched on this before. Wrestlers gotta do the higher reps rather than the lower reps because it's easier and safer on the joints . There's obviously a lot of joint wear on a wrestler's body so I would think there's no choice on the matter here. Really, I don't know how Kobashi could do any weight work reading about the injuries he's had in the past. Anybody's who's lifted before I think would say besides having a hard time gaining muscle that injuries are the most frustrating thing ever for weightraining.

 

wouldn't like to take a guess as to how long he could hold a bridge (I know Karl Gotch held one close to an hour).

 

Impressive. Don't know why but I always have problems when my head's pointing downards. Makes me dizzy. Anyway, this reminds me some of the techniques I saw in the Tiger Mask anime and a joshi tryout on some tape before. One woman was benchpressing in a full bridge posistion. Never tried that before and it's not something I'd go around reccomending either! I'll probably be back to talk some more later.

[Guest wildpegasus]

About the Tiger Mask anime. Bridges underneath a waterfall! I think that should be implemented not only in all wrestling training programs but in all walks of life. Want to get a driver's liscence? Want to pass grade 3? Want to watch Astroboy? Well, you know what you got to do.

 

 

Back to the Kobashi neck talk. I was watching some Joshi a couple of months ago and saw one of the wrestlers doing the "same" neck movement. She put themselves upside down in the turnbuckles and proceeded to do what I'll now dub "neckups" so it's obviously a movement that goes through all of the dojos in Japan.

 

It's obvious that the wrestlers in Japan all have the extra flexability. Now we all know about all the wrestlers in the WWE who have gone down to neck injuries. Some people say the cause of that is the different touring schedules but it's not the real root of the problem. AJW had probably the most brutal schedule to go through considering all factors. The schedule, the rate of work, the stiffness. Yes, they've had their injuries but man alive put any woman or man in that schedule fromt the States and they wouldn't last 1/5th of the time they did before their career would be pernamtly ended. Toyota by all rights should've been a cripple. She's been lucky throughout but there's no way she could've lasted as long as she has without being flexable. Same with the other wrestlers.

 

Benoit (who also a strong neck like Kobashi), Eddie, Tajir and RVD in the WWE. All more flexable than your avearge WWE superstar. RVD although I haven't seen him lately takes bumps on his neck that no other WWE superstar takes. Eddie's never been out with a bad neck to my knowledge. Tajiri never had to be one of those wrestlers who went out for neck injuries. Benoit did go out but let's be honest he had bumped on that neck for forever and a day. His bump card had already been filled and he was working on his 2nd or 3rd one. We look at the rest of the lineup who went out for injuries -- Rhyno, Edge and the lot of them. I could be wrong but I don't think any of them were as flexable as the 4 stars mentioned above.

 

This reminds me of the training clips I've seen from AJW in 1991. The trainers forced and I mean forced flexability on the trainees. Absolutely brutal stuff like seperating the legs of a sitting victim. Than having 2 or 3 trainers sit on the back of a trainee and force said trainee's stomach to the ground. Disguntingly sick. I guess we can see now how in the glory days AJW could reduce the thousands of wrestling tryout hopefuls down to the nitty gritty. I'm really hoping someday for someone to give a detailed account of what actually happens in the dojos. You only hear bits and pieces every once in awhile.

[Guest Monday Night Jericho]

There's a commercial tape of 1/20/97 I believe and they show some backstory of Kobashi and Misawa. Than they show Kobashi training in the ring. He's doing the plyometric pushups with his training partner holding his legs. But getting to the real point they show him doing some neck exercises. And YES, Kobashi has one strong neck.

 

Imagine this. Sit on your side in a wrestling ring. Put a towel on the side of your head. Have your partner stand on the side of your head. Now raise your neck up and down sort of like you were doing oblique work. Yup, Kobashi was doing reps that way obviously building up the strength on the sides of his neck. That's tough and something that bodybuilders and weightrainers refrain from doing. For various reasons - it's hard to get equipment to build the neck and all that plus it's easily forgotten about. I've tried this movement. Of course I hadn't built my neck up but I still must say I was a long ways away from Kobashi level strength.

 

That's pretty damn insane. Do you remember how big his training partner was? Hell, even if he was relatively small - those exercises are still surreal. I wonder if Misawa or Kawada did this, considering the strength of their necks (although not as strong as Kobashi's).

 

Kobashi not only has a flexable neck which has been proven now to be of most importance in the ring but obviously has a neck stronger than the majority of wresters out there. You won't see anyone from the WWE (home grown WWE stars) or the indys with necks like that and that is a mistake in my estimation. This should be part of the training program down in OVW or wherever along with incorporating flexability in other bodyparts. Batista always looks like he's going to break in two. A lot of the others look like they could break in half if they were stretched as well.

 

Definitely. Most of the WEE home-grown wrestlers have initially trained to be bodybuilders instead of wrestlers, and don't seem to do much to adapt.

 

Interesting fact -- Kobashi injured his shoulder brenchpressing before and I believe it bothers him to this day.

 

Do you know how much Kobashi can/could bench? If you don't, then how much would you guess? He seems VERY naturally strong to me.

 

Just watching Kobashi the other day it's obvious he's lost weight no doubt due somewhat to not being able to train properly. In 2000 (I remember reading around that time he had a match with Akyima he couldn't even walk to a train without help from other wrestlers) he was definitely larger. Storm touched on this before. Wrestlers gotta do the higher reps rather than the lower reps because it's easier and safer on the joints . There's obviously a lot of joint wear on a wrestler's body so I would think there's no choice on the matter here. Really, I don't know how Kobashi could do any weight work reading about the injuries he's had in the past. Anybody's who's lifted before I think would say besides having a hard time gaining muscle that injuries are the most frustrating thing ever for weightraining.

 

Very true. Thing with Kobashi is that he has a lot of muscle mass, even in earlier and more recent times. His arms and chest are huge, so I'm going to hazard a guess and say he has excellent genetics.

 

Impressive.

 

I just checked and it was 47 minutes. There's some interesting stuff about combat training (from Matt Furey - a man who trained under Karl Gotch) here: http://www.cbass.com/Furey.htm

 

Don't know why but I always have problems when my head's pointing downards. Makes me dizzy.

 

What I generally have problems with is that the skin on my forehead can get really dry if I do it too much, even when it's done on a pair of mats. There are also techniques that just involve the use of your hands (pushing against your head in different directions - in essence the mechanics are similar (although much, *much* lighter) to that of Kobashi's techniques.

 

Anyway, this reminds me some of the techniques I saw in the Tiger Mask anime and a joshi tryout on some tape before. One woman was benchpressing in a full bridge posistion. Never tried that before and it's not something I'd go around reccomending either!

 

Sounds like a neat way to screw up you back.

 

This reminds me of the training clips I've seen from AJW in 1991. The trainers forced and I mean forced flexability on the trainees. Absolutely brutal stuff like seperating the legs of a sitting victim. Than having 2 or 3 trainers sit on the back of a trainee and force said trainee's stomach to the ground. Disguntingly sick. I guess we can see now how in the glory days AJW could reduce the thousands of wrestling tryout hopefuls down to the nitty gritty. I'm really hoping someday for someone to give a detailed account of what actually happens in the dojos. You only hear bits and pieces every once in awhile.

 

Quick question: If you split the legs of someone who isn't double-jointed - does it cause injury? And after it's done, can they do the 'splits' effectively? I can only imagine how painful it must feel. I've seen clips of NJ guys working out and they seem to be big on hindu squats/push ups. Chono was even doing work on the cable crossover (that machine sucks). I was actually quite surprised to see that some of the 90s heavies (including Hash) seem to like machines (take this with a grain of salt). I bet the RINGS/UWF wrestlers go through hell with training, too.

[Guest wildpegasus]

That's pretty damn insane. Do you remember how big his training partner was? Hell, even if he was relatively small - those exercises are still surreal. I wonder if Misawa or Kawada did this, considering the strength of their necks (although not as strong as Kobashi's).

 

 

The training partner was a good size. He naturally did have his hands on the ropes so he wouldn't fall off. It's hard to tell what percentage of weight someone's lifting when they do that.

 

Misawa's obviously got a rubber neck. I would say he and Kawada definitely have done their neck work. It seems to be something that's implemented over there. Kawada likes the weights. Tom Zenk was talking about steroids and Kawada when he was over in America awhile back.

 

 

 

Do you know how much Kobashi can/could bench? If you don't, then how much would you guess? He seems VERY naturally strong to me.

 

It's gotta be a lot. When you hear the number of what someone can bench press you often have to take it with a grain of salt. I don't know. I think I could see him doing 350 anyway.

 

 

Very true. Thing with Kobashi is that he has a lot of muscle mass, even in earlier and more recent times. His arms and chest are huge, so I'm going to hazard a guess and say he has excellent genetics.

 

I would say so. He cetainly is no ectomorph. Wrist size can be one good indication of body type and what someone can achieve. Someone was talking one day and I have no idea who it is anymore that Kobashi grew after meeting up with the Road Warriors.

The thing with Kobashi is while he was never fat he was never ripped to the bone ala Benoit, Eddie or even Lesnar's body fat level. I would say the reasoning behind that was because he was too worried about losing muscle mass once he cut down which of course is what happens when someone goes for the ripped look. So I think that would indicate if he indeed was on help that it wasn't as much help as other stars were taking.

 

 

I'll be back

[Guest wildpegasus]

I'm back and badder than ever.

 

 

I just checked and it was 47 minutes. There's some interesting stuff about combat training (from Matt Furey - a man who trained under Karl Gotch) here: http://www.cbass.com/Furey.htm

 

 

 

 

From the Furey article -- "Believe it or not, Furey’s mentor, Karl Gotch, once did 9001 nonstop Hindu Squats. It took him four and a half hours, according to Furey, whose personal record is 2000. I'm impressed"

 

WP -- That's quite a statement. Here are a couple of testemonials from wrestlers about Furey. Interesting.

 

 

 

Dear Mr Furey,

 

Hope you are well.

 

My name is Darren Matthews and I have been a professional wrestler

for over twenty years and now I am currently employed at WWE.

 

In March of 2003 I was diagnosed with congestive heart failure after

contracting an unknown viral infection. I gained over 40 pounds of fluid

and when I was hospitalized my heart was only working at fifteen percent

pumping capacity.

 

I spent a week in hospital, three days of which I had eight wires coming

out of a hole in my neck. I had a very abnormal heart rhythm and resting

heart rate was 180. I was told that I was probably going to have a heart

transplant and that my active lifestyle would be over.

 

I thought for a second, "Well, you've had a great life and done everything

you wanted to do so I can't complain." But then I thought bollocks (I'm English)

I'll get over this like I've gotten over every other obstacle in my life.

 

I had to have my heart stopped and restarted which put it back into normal

rhythm and sent home with instructions to take it easy with seven different

types of medication.

 

The next day I thought "How can I sort this out?" I remembered always

being told about conditioning and all the wrestlers that I knew such as

Pete Roberts, Terry Rudge, Johnny Saint, Dave Taylor, and many others

who did this kind of training always looked great and healthy.

 

Now, I'd always done bits of conditioning training, mostly squats and the

wheel, but was always lazy when it came to pushups and hindu pushups

(That I always knew to be catdips), so I thought it's time to take this

conditioning training seriously. I typed hindu squats into my computer's

search engine and your name appeared everywhere so I ordered

Combat Conditioning from you and got to work.

 

I could go on and on about the last fifteen months, but I won't. But I

will say that now at thirty-six (36) I am fitter and healthier than I have

ever been and was cleared to wrestle and pronounced completely healthy.

 

So thanks to you I can continue with my life and career. Thank You.

 

Yours sincerely,

Darren Matthews (William Regal)

 

 

Matt,

Here is my response to the guy who said it is embarrassing that you

associate in the least with pro wrestlers. My name is Ian Hodgkinson,

and I have been a professional wrestler for 20 years as "Vampiro/"

 

I have known Matt and been a customer of his since 2000, when I broke

my neck and thanks to Matt, he saved my life, my career, and made me

a better person all at once. Now about these remarks ... my first thought

was quite profane ... then I went to all the different ways I could hurt you

and leave you disabled for the rest of your life, then I just plain felt

offended.

 

Thanks to pro wrestling I have been able to provide for my family and make

sure that my daughter has a future. How dare you call being associated with

me or anyone else who does what I do embarrassing. I am a certified reality

based

combat and anti assault instructor and I train military and federal police here

in Mexico, as well as children and have my biggest project to date in the

state of Juarez, Mexico, for women because of all the murders that have been

committed there over the last three years.

 

By the way I was contacted by the Governor of the state because he knew of me

through pro wrestling.

 

Do pro wrestlers take steroids? Like candy. Do they abuse pain pills? More than

you can imagine. Why? Unfortunately that's part of the game.

 

In wrestling you don't get paid if you don't work, so if you are hurt, you can

stay home and lose your spot, or do what you have to do and get paid and feed

your family. If you ain't a monster and if you don't draw people to the arena or

get TV ratings, you're gone, so you gotta grow.

 

There are a number of guys who can hurt you: Kurt Angle, Brock Lesner,

Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, William Regal and yours truly.

 

Half those guys have been collage champs,and one got the gold in the Olympics.

Good thing its fake huh? William Regal, well he learned in England, from all

those old English guys that Matt wrote about so long ago, and he can turn you in

to a pretzel in a heart beat.

 

Chris Benoit, he went to Japan and lived in a dojo and got his ass beat for a

year buy psycho Japanese wrestlers who had him doing thousands of Hindu squats,

Hindu push ups, and bridges all day, everyday, and he is ready to fight anyone,

any time, and then there is me.

 

I trained senshido after my broken neck and became very skilled in reality base

combat, but it wasn't until I trained with Matt that things changed. What I

learned from Matt through video and books and reading his writings changed my

life.

 

I, too was a drug abuser, but when I learned the right way to take

care of my self, I slept better, stopped taking pain killers, became

strong as a bear, and most of all had amazing confidence.

 

Thanks to Matt I did not give in, even after I suffered a broken neck.

Only months later I won the Canadian BBJ championships, in the open

weight division!

 

Then I got to meet Matt. Let me tell you, I learned more from Matt in

6 hours than I learned anywhere else in my life, traveling the world

for 20 years. That says a lot. Not just the knowledge, but the spiritual

trip of being around someone who really, really knows, someone who

believes because he has been there. It was awesome; jaw dropping.

 

If you can, spend the money, don't bitch, go be around Matt when you can,

you will change as a person.

 

Anyways, when I got back to Mexico I started to train the way Matt showed me,and

little by little the guys would come around and ask me what the hell I was

doing

and I tried to explain and showed them some stuff.

 

They said but your so big and strong, that's all you do? Bodyweight exercises?

 

Now three years later everyone in my company does Combat Conditioning,

and they are so much better for it. Less injuries, better work rate, better

bodies,

all that.

 

I have small groups of AFI POLICE SQUAD here in Mexico, and those guys are the

best there are down here; fearless and they go in to life or death situations 5

to 7 times a day, everyday, and I have them so fit, all thanks to Matt.

 

Whenever I teach, I alway say where I learned from and who, and I say it with

Honor.

 

I save peoples lives, and I teach people how to save their lives and others and

I

am proud of that.

 

I help school children who take my course with there self-confidence, make them

look and feel good about themselves, and I am proud of that.

 

I have made my name known world wide and I have supported my family and I am

proud of that.

 

I have helped people quit taking drugs and get turned on to fitness, and I am

proud of that.

 

I have helped my ex-wife believe in herself and become the most sought after

yoga

teacher here in Guadalajara, thanks to Matt's methods on business and personal

training, and I am proud of that.

 

And here in Mexico, and you ca check it out for yourself, I have a million fans.

 

I get to do TV shows, public stuff like fund raisers for children's hospitals,

homeless kids, people out of work, and I am awesome in the ring, and I am proud

of that.

 

And I thank Matt with all my heart, and I say that with pride, oh yeah, the big

one, Matt saved my life, and because of that, I get the greatest reward ever in

the history of the human race. Every morning on cue, my three year old daughter

comes in my room and tells me she loves me and gives me a hug.

 

For that, Matt, I thank you. And so, if it is embarrassing to be associated with

people like me, well, so be it.

 

Ian Hodgkinson

aka "Vampiro"

 

 

What I generally have problems with is that the skin on my forehead can get really dry if I do it too much, even when it's done on a pair of mats. There are also techniques that just involve the use of your hands (pushing against your head in different directions - in essence the mechanics are similar (although much, *much* lighter) to that of Kobashi's techniques.

 

So Fury if I'm reading this right says to go back even further than the top of your head until you touch your nose to the mat. Interesting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quick question: If you split the legs of someone who isn't double-jointed - does it cause injury? And after it's done, can they do the 'splits' effectively? I can only imagine how painful it must feel. I've seen clips of NJ guys working out and they seem to be big on hindu squats/push ups. Chono even was doing work on the cable crossover (that machine sucks). I bet the RINGS/UWF wrestlers go through hell with training, too.

 

That's the only things I could think of when watching the AJW wrestlers being stretched and seeing the extreme pain on their faces. How bad would that cripple you? How long would any potential injuries last? How flexable are they in the first place? I mean, what's the percentage of people who are double jointed? If you were to not accept someone because they weren't double jointed that would your potential pool of trainees down even further so I don't think they'd do that.

[Guest Monday Night Jericho]

Thanks for posting those interviews, they were a good read.

 

So Fury if I'm reading this right says to go back even further than the top of your head until you touch your nose to the mat. Interesting.

 

Yep. Benoit, Toyota, Sayama and Kawada all have amazing bridges.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Tiger Mask had an awesome arch on his bridge in his first match against Dynamite. I'll never forget that. Toyota meanwhile has got to be the most flexable wrestler in the history of wrestling. Man, I've even dreamt about her flexability before in what I must say was a nice, comforting dream. Back on topic, I'm trying to think of someone more flexable but nobody comes to mind right now.

 

 

Yeah, I just tried the bridge spot. Can't get to my forehead yet. You obviously can get there from what you wrote. Did it take a while to do that or was it just something that came more naturally to you?

 

 

WP -- I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated.

 

 

 

Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Astroboy tributes to Star Wars!

 

 

I thought all the Star Wars out there would be very interested in this. Darth Vader makes a cameo appearance in "THe time machine" and the "Robot Stuntman" episodes. Take a look and see for yourselves!

 

 

Also, the Millenum Falcon, an At-At walker and the Imperial Star Destroyer are completely visable in the "The Robot Stuntman" episode.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Some "old" information I found about the Astroboy movie.

 

 

 

Friday 13th June 2003: Astro Boy Update:

A live-action version of Japanese cartoon Astro Boy is set to zoom its way

to the big screen, but the owners of the cult cartoon won’t let Hollywood

have things all its own way. Officials at Tezuka Productions have stated

that they have obtained controlling rights in the production of a U.S.

live-action version and are determined not to see the character turned into

something as hideous as Godzilla was in the 1998 Hollywood remake. "No way

did we want a repetition of that," said a company spokesman. Under the deal,

he added, Teszuka has the right to approve the look and character of Astro

Boy and allows it to make script revisions at three different stages of the

preproduction. He said he would insist that Astro Boy not be turned into "a

mindless automaton" and that he wanted assurances that the film would

portray the essence of the series' message, that one day humanity will

coexist with a machine civilization.

 

 

WP -- I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated.

 

 

 

Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well.

[Guest wildpegasus]

WP -- Man alive! According to this site there has been a live action Astroboy movie before!

 

http://www.interstellartransmissions.com/f...dave/dave98.php

 

 

 

So two weeks ago, I find out we're working on Mysterious TV Pilot at DragonCon, and get ready to fly out on Friday, coming back late Saturday. Then we scramble to get ready for the hurricane. We catch one of the last flights out of town. So far so good...

 

When we get up there, we met with our director and the tech crew for The Pilot. Turns out they're award winning pornographers. Yay! The interviews and such for The Pilot went well, including a guy dressed as Electro who built a stun gun into his glove for real electrical arcing. After we finished filming, I finally got to go through the "Exhibit Hall". The Exhibit Hall was the good dealer's room, whereas the "Dealer's Room" was fairly ghetto. Like the difference between the rooms at Megacon and Vulkon.

 

One of the first dealers I investigate had bootleg videos like you wouldn't belive. It was clearly somebody getting out of geekery. For $2 a tape, I got complete (or almost complete) runs for:

 

Zyuranger

Dairanger

Someotherranger

Johnny Socko and His Flying Robot

The Korean(!) Street Fighter II live action TV series

Space Giants

Then there were the individual movies

Lion Maru

Fantasy Mission Force

Astroboy

What? You've never heard of the live action Astroboy movie? Neither has anybody else. IMDB doesn't have a listing for it, and there's hardly any mention of it online. It looks like it was made about mid-sixties. The FX are similar to the American series "The Adventures of Superman", the George Reeves one. It really isn't too bad. The kid who plays Astro is under about fifty pounds of prosthetics for his costume. It really is far better than I expected. I might translate it, actually. The Japanese is simple enough I can get most of it, definitly as good a job as Arctic ever could. And the video quality is quite good. So maybe somewhere down the line you'll see a digisub by me, once I learn those Dark Arts.

[Guest Monday Night Jericho]

Yeah, I just tried the bridge spot. Can't get to my forehead yet. You obviously can get there from what you wrote. Did it take a while to do that or was it just something that came more naturally to you?

 

It took a while. I started out doing it on the top of my head for a bit and gradually pushed my nose closer to the ground. At first I found it really uncomfortable and could only hold it for a couple of seconds. Basically, I just persisted from there and now I try to hold it for about 3 minutes at a time - adding on a few seconds with each session.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Yeah, I just tried the bridge spot. Can't get to my forehead yet. You obviously can get there from what you wrote. Did it take a while to do that or was it just something that came more naturally to you?

 

It took a while. I started out doing it on the top of my head for a bit and gradually pushed my nose closer to the ground. At first I found it really uncomfortable and could only hold it for a couple of seconds. Basically, I just persisted from there and now I try to hold it for about 3 minutes at a time - adding on a few seconds with each session.

Do you remember exactly how long it took you?

[Guest wildpegasus]

WP -- Man alive! According to this site there has been a live action Astroboy movie before!

 

http://www.interstellartransmissions.com/f...dave/dave98.php

 

 

 

So two weeks ago, I find out we're working on Mysterious TV Pilot at DragonCon, and get ready to fly out on Friday, coming back late Saturday. Then we scramble to get ready for the hurricane. We catch one of the last flights out of town. So far so good...

 

When we get up there, we met with our director and the tech crew for The Pilot. Turns out they're award winning pornographers. Yay! The interviews and such for The Pilot went well, including a guy dressed as Electro who built a stun gun into his glove for real electrical arcing. After we finished filming, I finally got to go through the "Exhibit Hall". The Exhibit Hall was the good dealer's room, whereas the "Dealer's Room" was fairly ghetto. Like the difference between the rooms at Megacon and Vulkon.

 

One of the first dealers I investigate had bootleg videos like you wouldn't belive. It was clearly somebody getting out of geekery. For $2 a tape, I got complete (or almost complete) runs for:

 

Zyuranger

Dairanger

Someotherranger

Johnny Socko and His Flying Robot

The Korean(!) Street Fighter II live action TV series

Space Giants

Then there were the individual movies

Lion Maru

Fantasy Mission Force

Astroboy

What? You've never heard of the live action Astroboy movie? Neither has anybody else. IMDB doesn't have a listing for it, and there's hardly any mention of it online. It looks like it was made about mid-sixties. The FX are similar to the American series "The Adventures of Superman", the George Reeves one. It really isn't too bad. The kid who plays Astro is under about fifty pounds of prosthetics for his costume. It really is far better than I expected. I might translate it, actually. The Japanese is simple enough I can get most of it, definitly as good a job as Arctic ever could. And the video quality is quite good. So maybe somewhere down the line you'll see a digisub by me, once I learn those Dark Arts.

Hmm, just over at the best site on the web. www.astroboy-online.com and took note of a post there. THere was actually a live action Astroboy show with 65 episodes from about 1959 to 1960. The poster wasn't 100% sure but the show also had a different them than the cartoon.

 

 

Here is an audio cd that has some tracks on it from the 60s show from our good friends at CD Japan.

 

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KICA-8002

 

ASTRO BOY (ATOM) Song Collection

Animation Soundtrack

Catalog No.: KICA-8002

Format: CD

Number of discs (or other units): 1

Release Date: 2003/04/02

Price: 2381yen (US$ 22.97)

Item weight: 120 g

Few Left in Supplier Stock

Availability:

Usually ships in 3-7 business days

 

 

Description

A compilation album of theme songs from TV (both anime and live action) shows based on ''Tetsuwan Atom (Astro Boy)''. Contains 18 tracks, including ''Tetsuwan Atom (Astro Boy)'', ''Mirai Ni Mukatte (For the future)'', ''Uran (Astro Girl) Theme'' and others.

 

(All product details, including availability, images, language(s), special features, and bonus extras, are subject to change without prior notice. Actual item weight may be different from the one indicated above.)

[Guest wildpegasus]

Please help WP!! This is a picture of a woman who I can't remember the name of. I was talking to my friend and he knows who she is but he just can't think of her name at the moment. It's been bugging us both. According to my friend who has never, ever been wrong about anything in his life this is what he remembers.

 

She's an Asian porn star who's been in at least a couple of movies.

 

Last name starts with a K

 

She as everyone else is of course a big Astroboy fan

 

 

One of the hottest pictures WP has ever seen. Please help him and his friend identify this life long Astroboy fan.

 

[Guest wildpegasus]

Please help WP!! This is a picture of a woman who I can't remember the name of. I was talking to my friend and he knows who she is but he just can't think of her name at the moment. It's been bugging us both. According to my friend who has never, ever been wrong about anything in his life this is what he remembers.

 

She's an Asian porn star who's been in at least a couple of movies.

 

Last name starts with a K

 

She as everyone else is of course a big Astroboy fan

 

 

One of the hottest pictures WP has ever seen. Please help him and his friend identify this life long Astroboy fan.

 

Case solved. The lovely female in question is kailayu who is a model/singer.

 

 

 

WP -- I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated.

 

 

 

Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well.

[Guest Monday Night Jericho]

Do you remember exactly how long it took you?

 

I'll try my best, although I can't guarantee the accuracy of this.

 

I started doing it on the top of my head, which I did for a couple of months before I found out that the correct way to do it was to go back on your forehead.

 

First time I tried it I couldn't get to my nose. So I made a compromise where I would go do a bridge that was halfway between being the one that I had been doing (on the top of my head) and a proper variation of the exercise (where your forehead and nose is touching the floor).

 

From this point it was just a matter of easing my way down until I perform the correct position. I can't remember exactly how long it took me - may have only taken a week or two until I could pull it off. However at first I could only hold it for a couple of seconds and found it to be very uncomfortable.

 

From here it was a matter of just increasing the number of seconds I could hold the position. I started out only doing it for a couple of seconds and then started holding it for 5-10 seconds... then 10-15... then 15-20, etc. Remembering exactly how long this took is difficult, if I had to estimate then I'd say somewhere in the region of a month (maybe two?) before I could hold it for a solid 20 seconds.

 

From this point it is easier to increase the amount of seconds that you can hold a bridge for. It also starts to feel a lot more comfortable. Soon enough I was able to perform it for a minute - and moved up until I could hit over 3.

 

Hope this helps.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Do you remember exactly how long it took you?

 

I'll try my best, although I can't guarantee the accuracy of this.

 

I started doing it on the top of my head, which I did for a couple of months before I found out that the correct way to do it was to go back on your forehead.

 

First time I tried it I couldn't get to my nose. So I made a compromise where I would go do a bridge that was halfway between being the one that I had been doing (on the top of my head) and a proper variation of the exercise (where your forehead and nose is touching the floor).

 

From this point it was just a matter of easing my way down until I perform the correct position. I can't remember exactly how long it took me - may have only taken a week or two until I could pull it off. However at first I could only hold it for a couple of seconds and found it to be very uncomfortable.

 

From here it was a matter of just increasing the number of seconds I could hold the position. I started out only doing it for a couple of seconds and then started holding it for 5-10 seconds... then 10-15... then 15-20, etc. Remembering exactly how long this took is difficult, if I had to estimate then I'd say somewhere in the region of a month (maybe two?) before I could hold it for a solid 20 seconds.

 

From this point it is easier to increase the amount of seconds that you can hold a bridge for. It also starts to feel a lot more comfortable. Soon enough I was able to perform it for a minute - and moved up until I could hit over 3.

 

Hope this helps.

Cool, you must train a good bit.

 

Now, can you go into a bridge without laying on the ground first as an initial starting posistion? ie like the way Trish Stratus does it from a standing posistion?

 

 

WP -- who's fairly proud of himself for learning how to fall and stopping himself from hitting his head on the ice on bad falls. Thank you pro wrestling.

 

 

 

WP -- I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated.

 

 

 

Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well.

[Guest Ray]

Whoa!

 

Did anyone catch the Astro Boy tribute during the couch gag on "The Simpsons" tonight? That was certainly unexpected.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Whoa!

 

Did anyone catch the Astro Boy tribute during the couch gag on "The Simpsons" tonight? That was certainly unexpected.

Yes, thanks for keeping on the lookout Ray.

 

I think I might've seen that once because I faintly remember it. I remember reading about it somewhere. It's Bart being Astroboy at the starting? Maybe something else too. Right?

 

 

Other cool Simpsons moment that deals with Tezuka, the creater of Astroboy. When Lisa's friend, the Jazz musician dies he meantions something about Simba but then quickly changes what he says and mentions Kimba. It could've been the other way around though. Curse my memory! This is in reference to the Simba from Lion King emulating Kimba the White Lion.

 

 

 

WP -- I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated.

 

 

 

Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well.

[Guest Monday Night Jericho]

Cool, you must train a good bit.

 

It's a hobby of mine. To be honest, I've been a little lazy over the past two months, though.

 

Now, can you go into a bridge without laying on the ground first as an initial starting posistion? ie like the way Trish Stratus does it from a standing posistion?

 

Nah, I've never tried it from the standing position. I'm a bit dubious about doing it as I'm afraid I may screw up on the way down. Something to practice, anyway.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Cool, you must train a good bit.

 

It's a hobby of mine. To be honest, I've been a little lazy over the past two months, though.

 

Now, can you go into a bridge without laying on the ground first as an initial starting posistion? ie like the way Trish Stratus does it from a standing posistion?

 

Nah, I've never tried it from the standing position. I'm a bit dubious about doing it as I'm afraid I may screw up on the way down. Something to practice, anyway.

Watch some Kobashi, Benoit, Ozaki and Toyota matches followed by some Rocky flicks. That'll clear you up.

 

 

Nah, I've never tried it from the standing position. I'm a bit dubious about doing it as I'm afraid I may screw up on the way down. Something to practice, anyway.

 

"No fear." I know what you mean. It is scary to go back into the bridge like that. It's like what Benoit said when he jumped off with the headbutt from the top of the cage. There's no second guessing yourself. You just do it (educated on how to do so correctly hopefully). Something like that anyway.

[Guest wildpegasus]

I thought this would be very intriguing. It's also something I've never seen done before. Since this thread is really starting to get off the ground I thought we'd take a peak at the "most" loyal Astromaniacs.

 

wildpegasus 142 posts as of this post

 

Downhome 1 post

 

ravishing rick rudo 7 posts

 

ravenbomb 1 post

 

theohtanioftime 27 posts

 

vivisectvi 2 posts

 

AndrewTS 4 posts

 

Ray 20 posts

 

El Physco Diablo 2 posts

 

Rob Edwards 1 post

 

Positively Kanyon 4 posts

 

Monday Night Jericho 11 posts

 

Regina Phelange 1 post

 

Highland 3 posts

 

Vyce 1 post

 

EricMM 3 posts

 

Spunk 1 post

 

 

 

In order from Most Posts to Least Posts

 

 

 

wildpegasus 142 posts as of this post -- obsessed

 

theohtanioftime 27 posts -- Very loyal follower

 

Ray 20 posts -- Can he overtake theohtanioftime?

 

Monday Night Jericho 11 posts -- dedicated Astroboy trainee and a good guy

 

ravishing rick rudo 7 posts -- Hanging in there. Positively Kanyon's starting to get withing reaching distance though.

 

AndrewTS 4 posts -- Maybe if AndrewTS plays a few more Astro games

we'll see his post count go up. .

 

Positively Kanyon 4 posts -- One of the most loyal readers of the site An underrated Astroboy fanatic.

 

Highland 3 posts

 

vivisectvi 2 posts

 

Downhome 1 post

 

ravenbomb 1 post

 

Rob Edwards 1 post

 

Regina Phelange 1 post

 

Vyce 1 post

 

Spunk 1 post

 

 

 

Well, there you go. THis is the best thread on the internet so everyone who's contributed to it take a bow and be proud of yourselves. A thank you from the bottom of my heart. You're the reason I get up out of bed every morning.

 

Sincerely, wildpegasus

[Guest wildpegasus]

Please help WP!! This is a picture of a woman who I can't remember the name of. I was talking to my friend and he knows who she is but he just can't think of her name at the moment. It's been bugging us both. According to my friend who has never, ever been wrong about anything in his life this is what he remembers.

 

She's an Asian porn star who's been in at least a couple of movies.

 

Last name starts with a K

 

She as everyone else is of course a big Astroboy fan

 

 

One of the hottest pictures WP has ever seen. Please help him and his friend identify this life long Astroboy fan.

 

Case solved. The lovely female in question is kailayu who is a model/singer.

 

 

 

WP -- I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated.

 

 

 

Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well.

Arrrrrgggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!! My friend still insists this woman is a porn star. Which isn't a bad thing but a good thing because that means we have two babes of unbelievable hotness walking on this earth. Well, kailayu has done Playboy stuff so that counts as pornography but I believe he's talking about more hardcore stuff. Does anybody know who this woman is? Please help me!! If there are more pictures of her in this outfit she's wearing I HAVE to see them.

[Guest Ray]

I think I might've seen that once because I faintly remember it. I remember reading about it somewhere. It's Bart being Astroboy at the starting? Maybe something else too. Right?

On the one I saw they had the other Simpsons dressed as anime characters (though I didn't recognize any of them), then Bart flew in at the end as Astro Boy.

[Guest Monday Night Jericho]

Watch some Kobashi, Benoit, Ozaki and Toyota matches followed by some Rocky flicks. That'll clear you up.

 

Will do! The Rocky sound-tracks are so motivating for whatever reason.

 

"No fear." I know what you mean. It is scary to go back into the bridge like that. It's like what Benoit said when he jumped off with the headbutt from the top of the cage. There's no second guessing yourself. You just do it (educated on how to do so correctly hopefully). Something like that anyway.

 

It must take guts to jump off a cage whilst maintaining the swandive position. Benoit's heatbutt off the tope rope down to the mats is really impressive also.

[Guest wildpegasus]

I think I might've seen that once because I faintly remember it. I remember reading about it somewhere. It's Bart being Astroboy at the starting? Maybe something else too. Right?

On the one I saw they had the other Simpsons dressed as anime characters (though I didn't recognize any of them), then Bart flew in at the end as Astro Boy.

I'll do some research later on this. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

 

 

Ray +1!!

[Guest wildpegasus]

Watch some Kobashi, Benoit, Ozaki and Toyota matches followed by some Rocky flicks. That'll clear you up.

 

Will do! The Rocky sound-tracks are so motivating for whatever reason.

 

"No fear." I know what you mean. It is scary to go back into the bridge like that. It's like what Benoit said when he jumped off with the headbutt from the top of the cage. There's no second guessing yourself. You just do it (educated on how to do so correctly hopefully). Something like that anyway.

 

It must take guts to jump off a cage whilst maintaining the swandive position. Benoit's heatbutt off the tope rope down to the mats is really impressive also.

 

Monday NIght Jericho +1!!

 

It is. THe swandive goes against your natural instincts. Just a normal diving headbutt from your feet ala Bam Bam Bigelow is tough enough. Let alone the top of the rope or a cage.

 

 

And a question to anyone reading this -- How many of you have tried your own flying headbutt before or have gone up a few feet in the air to see what it'd be like to fly off? I know I have. Don't worry. I haven't lost my mind and starting condoning backyard wrestling. I'm just curious.

 

The music to the end of the first Rocky flick. If that doesn't move you nothing will. It's no coincidence that whenever wrestlers get the chance you'll often see them use "Eye of the Tiger" as an entrance theme.

[Guest Ray]

I think I might've seen that once because I faintly remember it. I remember reading about it somewhere. It's Bart being Astroboy at the starting? Maybe something else too. Right?

On the one I saw they had the other Simpsons dressed as anime characters (though I didn't recognize any of them), then Bart flew in at the end as Astro Boy.

I'll do some research later on this. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

 

 

Ray +1!!

Here's a site that has a list of all of them:

 

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:uAfszZO...%22+astro&hl=en

 

It's near the bottom of the list.

[Guest wildpegasus]

I think I might've seen that once because I faintly remember it. I remember reading about it somewhere. It's Bart being Astroboy at the starting? Maybe something else too. Right?

On the one I saw they had the other Simpsons dressed as anime characters (though I didn't recognize any of them), then Bart flew in at the end as Astro Boy.

I'll do some research later on this. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

 

 

Ray +1!!

Here's a site that has a list of all of them:

 

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:uAfszZO...%22+astro&hl=en

 

It's near the bottom of the list.

Thanks Ray.

 

 

 

 

 

Homer is Ultraman, Lisa is I believe Sailor Moon, Maggie is Pikachu from Pokemon. From Astroboy-online.com -- Marge is dressed as Jun (Gatchaman) AKA Princess (BotP) AKA Agatha ("Aggie") June (G-Force) AKA Kelly Jenar (Eagle Riders).

 

WP -- Yes, that's how much different versions the States made of Gatchaman. Probably more too. The most edited/altered show in the history of television. Either that or Robotech.

[Guest Monday Night Jericho]

BTW, I ordered Grave of the fireflies yesterday. Look forward to recieving it, should be a great watch.