RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2004 From 12:00-2:00am UFC will be on TSN tonight. I don't know what event they're showing but last week (I believe) they showed UFC 20 (or parts of). Should be fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2004 From what I hear, they are showing UFC 21: Return of the Champions (July 16th 1999) Here's the full card. 1 Travis Fulton vs. David Dodd 2 Andre Roberts vs. Ron Waterman 3 Eugene Jackson vs. Royce Alger 4 Tsuyoshi Kohsaka vs. Tim Lajcik 5 Paul Jones vs. Flavio Luiz Moura 6 Jeremy Horn vs. Daiju Takase 7 Pat Miletich vs. Andre Pederneiras 8 Maurice Smith vs. Marco Ruas I haven't seen this show before so I am looking forward to it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2004 OOOPS! I stand corrected, it's actually UFC 22! "Mixed Martial Arts: Ultimate Fighting Championship 22 - Part 1" TSN.ca It has TITO ORTIZ vs. FRANK SHAMROCK!!! 1 Jens Pulver vs. Alfonso Alcarez 2 John Lewis vs. Lowell Anderson 3 Matt Hughes vs. Valeri Ignatov 4 Chuck Liddell vs. Paul Jones 5 Brad Kohler vs. Steve Judson 6 Jeremy Horn vs. Jason Godsey 7 Tim Lajcik vs. Ron Waterman 8 Frank Shamrock vs. Tito Ortiz Definitely a must-tape show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bort Report post Posted January 10, 2004 sweet man thanks alot for youre work with the updating, ill be tapin this for sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2004 I'm doing this as much for me as I am for folks here - if I don't, I tend to forget that it's on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 11, 2004 Just finished watching Shamrock vs Ortiz. Loved it. Shamrock is just in such great condition and I loved how he didn't run out of energy here continually staying active. How would this fight compare to some of the other top MMA bouts in quality? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2004 Shamrock/Ortiz - for me - would be a top 15 match, maybe. I love this fight, Frank Shamrock is a GOD, but I would rank a host of others ahead of it (mainly from PRIDE). It's one of the best UFC fights of all time, though. I love how Shamrock works the cage to his advantage, how he listens to his corner (when Mo said "30 seconds" Frank immediately picked it up - a specific strategy), and his overall ability (though he could improve his takedown defense). The first fight was so bad I actually rewinded the tape and recorded over it. I love the knockout in the second fight. And I am SO VERY HAPPY to have gotten Ortiz/Shamrock on tape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 11, 2004 Frank Shamrock at least a couple of times gave Otiz his back seemingly for a choke but Ortiz wouldn't bite. Why's that? What was he scared of if he went for the choke on Shamrock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brush with Greatness 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2004 (edited) My guess was that Shamrock was hoping that Ortiz would crawl up (as he would have to in attempting a choke) his back more and expose his leg at which point Shamrock would go for a kneebar. Or possibly a heel hook, something along those lines. EDIT: WildPegasus - If you watched the Shamrock highlight vid before the fight it would have been similar to how he submitted Jeremy Horn. Edited January 11, 2004 by Brush with Greatness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2004 Yeah, I'd definitely agree with that. Tito was afraid of the heel hooks and leg locks since he didn't wear shoes (the announcers said that was for his kickboxing, but he did very little of that). Plus, giving your back isn't *that* bad, since it could possibly turn into the guard position for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 11, 2004 Thanks for the responses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bort Report post Posted January 11, 2004 The first match sucked so bad, i did like the main event and am glad i taped it because it was good, i am a little dissapointed in the why tito lost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2004 Tito was tired. Fun lil Fact: Tito went to train *on cardio* with Frank Shamrock after this fight. Frank's gameplan was to wear Tito-out; he did it to perfection. Watching Frank in this fight is watching a master - you can pick up so much from just seeing what he does in certain situations. I have no idea why they showed the first match; what a piece of crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2004 I now look forward to watching the first match more than any other on the card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
