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The fighting game character tournament 2k4

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Big thanks to Reverb for doing the last round, and here comes the next round

 

Jin Kazama (Tekken) vs. Kung Lao (Mortal Kombat)

 

Rock Howard (Fatal Fury) vs. Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Ken Masters (Street Fighter) vs. Geese Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Hwoarang (Tekken) vs. Blanka (Street Fighter)

 

Yoshimitsu (Tekken) vs. Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken) vs. Raiden (Mortal Kombat)

 

Kyo Kusanagi (King of Fighters) vs. M. Bison (Street Fighter)

 

E. Honda (Street Fighter) vs. King (Tekken)

 

Axel (Guilty Gear) vs. Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Chun-Li (Street Fighter) vs. Akuma (Street Fighter)

 

Haohmaru (Samurai Shodown) vs. Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury) vs. Marshall Law (Tekken)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear) vs. Wolfgang Krauser (Fatal Fury)

 

Fulgore (Killer Instinct) vs. Rugal Bernstien (King of Fighters)

 

Shang Tsung (Mortal Kombat) vs. Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Felicia (Darkstalkers) vs. Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

 

 

Voting ends in about a week.

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Geese Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Blanka (Street Fighter)

 

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken)

 

Kyo Kusanagi (King of Fighters)

 

King (Tekken)

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Akuma (Street Fighter)

 

Haohmaru (Samurai Shodown)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

 

Fulgore (Killer Instinct)

 

Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Felicia (Darkstalkers)

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Jin Kazama (Tekken) vs. Kung Lao (Mortal Kombat)

 

Rock Howard (Fatal Fury) vs. Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Ken Masters (Street Fighter) vs. Geese Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Hwoarang (Tekken) vs. Blanka (Street Fighter)

 

Yoshimitsu (Tekken) vs. Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken) vs. Raiden (Mortal Kombat)

 

Kyo Kusanagi (King of Fighters) vs. M. Bison (Street Fighter)

 

E. Honda (Street Fighter) vs. King (Tekken)

 

Axel (Guilty Gear) vs. Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Chun-Li (Street Fighter) vs. Akuma (Street Fighter)

 

Haohmaru (Samurai Shodown) vs. Ryu (Street Fighter) (damn, what a wretched draw for Haohmaru)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury) vs. Marshall Law (Tekken)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear) vs. Wolfgang Krauser (Fatal Fury)

 

Fulgore (Killer Instinct) vs. Rugal Bernstien (King of Fighters)

 

Shang Tsung (Mortal Kombat) vs. Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Felicia (Darkstalkers) vs. Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

 

Hwoarang (Tekken)

 

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken)

 

M. Bison (Street Fighter)

 

King (Tekken)

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Akuma (Street Fighter)

 

Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

 

Wolfgang Krauser (Fatal Fury)

 

Rugal Bernstien (King of Fighters)

 

Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Felicia (Darkstalkers)

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

 

Hwoarang (Tekken)

 

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken)

 

M. Bison (Street Fighter)

 

E. Honda (Street Fighter)

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Akuma (Street Fighter)

 

Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

 

Rugal Bernstien (King of Fighters)

 

Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

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Guest Coffey
Kung Lao (Mortal Kombat)

Vega (Street Fighter)

Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

Blanka (Street Fighter)

Yoshimitsu (Tekken)

Raiden (Mortal Kombat)

M. Bison (Street Fighter)

E. Honda (Street Fighter)

Sagat (Street Fighter)

Akuma (Street Fighter)

Ryu (Street Fighter)

Marshall Law (Tekken)

Wolfgang Krauser (Fatal Fury)

Fulgore (Killer Instinct)

Shang Tsung (Mortal Kombat)

Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Geese Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Blanka (Street Fighter)

 

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken)

 

Kyo Kusanagi (King of Fighters)

 

E. Honda (Street Fighter) (I'm sick and tired of King!!!!)

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Akuma (Street Fighter)

 

Haohmaru (Samurai Shodown) (Fuck Ryu!)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

 

Rugal Bernstien (King of Fighters)

 

Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

 

 

And I'll give you the updated statistics for the representation of each game

 

--------------------R1-----R2-----R3

Street Fighter-----18%----22%----28%

Tekken-------------11%----11%----19%

Fatal Fury---------13%----16%----16%

King of Fighters---14%----13%-----9%

Mortal Kombat-------8%-----9%-----9%

Samurai Shodown-----5%-----6%-----6%

Guilty Gear---------5%-----5%-----6%

Darkstalkers--------5%-----8%-----3%

Killer Instinct-----2%-----2%-----3%

Soul Calibur--------5%-----5%

Dead or Alive-------3%-----2%

Last Blade----------3%-----2%

Fighting Vipers-----2%-----2%

Art of Fighting-----3%

Rival Schools-------1%

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

 

Hwoarang (Tekken)

 

Yoshimitsu (Tekken)

 

Heihachi Mishima (Tekken)

 

M. Bison (Street Fighter)

 

King (Tekken) - Yecch. As much as I hate King, I think E. Honda is probably worse.

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Akuma (Street Fighter)

 

Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Marshall Law (Tekken)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

 

Rugal Bernstien (King of Fighters)

 

Shang Tsung (Mortal Kombat)

 

Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Rock Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Geese Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Hwoarang (Tekken)

 

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken)

 

Kyo Kusanagi (King of Fighters)

 

King (Tekken)

 

Axel (Guilty Gear)

 

Chun-Li (Street Fighter)

 

Haohmaru (Samurai Shodown)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

 

Rugal Bernstien (King of Fighters)

 

Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Felicia (Darkstalkers)

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Rock Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

 

Hwoarang (Tekken)

 

Yoshimitsu (Tekken)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken)

 

M. Bison (Street Fighter)

 

King (Tekken)

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Chun-Li (Street Fighter)

 

Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Marshall Law (Tekken)

 

Wolfgang Krauser (Fatal Fury)

 

Fulgore (Killer Instinct)

 

Shang Tsung (Mortal Kombat)

 

Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

 

 

 

MK people vs. Tekken people is uncool.

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Kung Lao (Mortal Kombat)

 

Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

 

Blanka (Street Fighter)

 

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Raiden (Mortal Kombat)

 

M. Bison (Street Fighter)

 

E. Honda (Street Fighter)

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Akuma (Street Fighter)

 

Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

 

Rugal Bernstien (King of Fighters)

 

Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Felicia (Darkstalkers)

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Rock Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Geese Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Blanka (Street Fighter)

 

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken)

 

Kyo Kusanagi (King of Fighters)

 

King (Tekken)

 

Axel (Guilty Gear)

 

Chun-Li (Street Fighter)

 

Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

 

Rugal Bernstien (King of Fighters)

 

Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

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Kung Lao (Mortal Kombat)

Vega (Street Fighter)

Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

Hwoarang (Tekken)

Yoshimitsu (Tekken)

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken)

M. Bison (Street Fighter)

E. Honda (Street Fighter)

Sagat (Street Fighter)

Chun-Li (Street Fighter) vs. Akuma (Street Fighter) -- draw (sorry)

Ryu (Street Fighter)

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

Fulgore (Killer Instinct)

Shang Tsung (Mortal Kombat)

Felicia (Darkstalkers)

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Kung Lao (Mortal Kombat)

 

Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Geese Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Blanka (Street Fighter)

 

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Raiden (Mortal Kombat)

 

M. Bison (Street Fighter)

 

E. Honda (Street Fighter)

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Chun-Li (Street Fighter)

 

Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

 

Wolfgang Krauser (Fatal Fury)

 

Fulgore (Killer Instinct)

 

Shang Tsung (Mortal Kombat)

 

Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Vega (Street Fighter)

 

Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

 

Hwoarang (Tekken)

 

Yoshimitsu (Tekken)

 

Heiachi Mishima (Tekken)

 

M. Bison (Street Fighter)

 

E. Honda (Street Fighter)

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Akuma (Street Fighter)

 

Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Marshall Law (Tekken)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

 

Fulgore (Killer Instinct)

 

Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Kibagami Genjuro (Samurai Shodown)

 

Looking at my votes, I don't think its too hard to guess which fighting games I played the most...

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Jin Kazama (Tekken)

 

Rock Howard (Fatal Fury)

 

Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

 

Hwoarang (Tekken)

 

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters)

 

Raiden (Mortal Kombat)

 

Kyo Kusanagi (King of Fighters)

 

E. Honda (Street Fighter)

 

Sagat (Street Fighter)

 

Chun-Li (Street Fighter)

 

Ryu (Street Fighter)

 

Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury)

 

Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear)

 

Fulgore (Killer Instinct)

 

Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

 

Felicia (Darkstalkers)

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BARAKA! Where the hell is Baraka?! Did he already get eliminated? I don't know why. He was so awesome with those blades of his. Badass! :headbang:

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And you're supporting a dictator who deals in drugs and kills lots of people, his criminal companion, a demon in flesh, another evil dude, and a sorceror who kills people and steals their souls.

 

Felicia just looks like a hot chick in really oversized boots and gloves and is wearing a fur bikini. OH NO! :P

 

BARAKA! Where the hell is Baraka?! Did he already get eliminated? I don't know why. He was so awesome with those blades of his. Badass!

 

Few like MK here.

 

Furries are bad. It's banable some places even.

 

What is? Nobody posted pictures of a couple of dogs with vaguely human features humping.

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BARAKA! Where the hell is Baraka?! Did he already get eliminated? I don't know why. He was so awesome with those blades of his. Badass! :headbang:

Bit late to complain about who isnt there.

 

Few like MK here.

 

With good reason.

 

Anyway I'll count these votes up in a few hours.

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Few like MK here.

 

With good reason.

Violence over gameplay, chunky controls, relatively poor balance, MKI and MK3 (and all its offshoots) sucking ass, and keeping Acclaim in the black?

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Even Midway disrespects Baraka. He hasn't been in a non-upgrade game since his debut in 1993 and his appearances in upgrades are copy & paste halfassed crap.

 

 

MK is not poorly balanced. At least not any more than the average Capcom, SNK or Namco game.

 

 

Also, MK3 is the best in the series.

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MK is not poorly balanced. At least not any more than the average Capcom Vs. series game, SNK vs. Capcom Chaos, or Namco game with the secret characters unlocked.

 

Edited for accuracy.

 

Also, MK3 is the best in the series.

 

:lol:

 

Stupid upgrades that make gameplay worse does not = "best" to me.

 

I thought you yourself said Deadly Alliance was the best in the series?

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No, that's NOT accurate. MK is no more unbalanced than stuff like the Alpha games, the KOF games or even the default rosters in Tekken or SC(and it's ridiculous to not count time release people in those, btw).

 

How can you say MK is poorly balanced? What do you know of MK's higher level of play? Please tell us who and what is unbalanced in MK.

 

There's plenty of things you can bash about the MK series, but balance isn't really one of them when ALL games are the same way.

 

 

DA is not and never was my favorite in the series. In fact not counting spin offs and shitty GBA games it's my LEAST favorite.

 

 

From best to worst:

MK3/UMK3/MKT

MK II

MK

MK 4/Gold

MKDA

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Mortal Kombat II is the best. That's why I bothered to get good at it and become competitive with it. The other games I played a lot, but I would never waste my money to enter tournaments for.

 

Mortal Kombat II was great for tournaments. Especially if you knew what you were doing. Unlike local arcade play, tournament MK2 isn't all about Liu Kang or who can do "cool fatalities." It was all about winning. Who has the best foot sweep in the match-up? Who makes the first mistake? Who tries to jump, thus loses the round?

 

MK3 was a bad attempt at adding a combo system to a game that didn't need one. Then they added a whole slew of other "finishing moves" instead of tweaking & improving the basic gameplay. There wasn't as much strategy involved. In MK2 if someone picks a certain character before you select, you have the chance to select a character that would be good against your opponent. MK3 was too many characters and too much block damage.

 

Best to Worst:

Mortal Kombat II

Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance

Mortal Kombat 3 (or Ultimate MK)

Mortal Kombat

Mortal Kombat 4

 

So, apparently we differ in opinions. Coming from someone who competed and was successful in tournaments however, I can tell you that MK2 is a lot more credible than you seem to give it credit for.

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Backbackdowndowbupuppunchkickpunchblockblockblock.

Yeah, great.

 

Any fighting game that has juggles(which is like virtually everyone now, 2D or 3D) owes credit to MK for innovating the genre.

 

 

Coffey, I can't tell if you're telling Andrew he is wrong about MK being unbalanced or talking to me because I said MK3 was better than II. If you mean me then I give MK II plenty of credit. It's one of my favorite games ever, I own 8 different versions of it, and I still play it on a regular basis.

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