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[Guest FrigidSoul]

the local sports radio has something called "The Whiner Line" on their last show where people call up and leave something to whine about...however its just turned into something where people leave funny statements(its done via voicemail). Today's installment had somebody call up and say:

 

"Hey, wasn't it great when that boob got exposed on Sunday?...its about time people started seeing Warren Sapp for the idiot he is. You dooshbag."

[Guest Ghettoman]

Everytime MTV promises a stunt, it's mild and lame.

 

This time was no different, she was going to rip off part of her costume into something revealing yet still tame for this day and age, hence the snaps all over the costume, hence the timing on Justins lyrics, hence two with a naturally shocked reaction on there faces.

 

It was supposed to end with her doing her quick turn thing as he ripped it off, and one of those poppish close out poses, but instead he only got a peice off complete with a part that wasn't supposed to come off, hence the boob.

 

It's a lot more logical than someone furthering there singing career by having a nip-slip....

[Guest Anglesault]

No from seeing pics, video's and statements released.

By whom?

[Guest Ghettoman]

Everyone involved, I don't care where it comes from, if it's consistent with what happened, why shouldn't I believe it? Because evil musicians corrupting America in a ploy to further there careers is a popular thought at the moment? Nah....

[Guest Krazy Karter]

I wasn't appreciating Justin running around grinding his crotch against Janet's ass for the 2 minutes prior to the nip-slip either.

 

My 5-year old cousin was watching that, shit.

[Guest Anglesault]

Everyone involved,

They have no reason to lie.

 

 

if it's consistent with what happened

 

I don't think so.

[Guest Ghettoman]

If you don't think so, how about you present sort of arguement, or debate my points?

 

I don't think the sky is blue, but apparently it is....

[Guest Anglesault]

I saw a man grab a big ole chunk of fabric and tear. I didn't see anything to suggest that he didn't get the intended result.

 

Why would he expose the bra of one boob? What is that accomplishing?

[Guest Ghettoman]

So you haven't read anything I've said?

 

He wasn't supposed to rip off one thing, he was supposed to rip off the chunk of what she was wearing, revealing a skimpier outfit. Instead, there was, omg he said it so it can't be true....BUT IT IS, a costume malfunction, and he only got part of it off.

 

Hence the look of two overly shocked performers who couldn't act that well if they took lessons for years.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Why would he expose the bra of one boob? What is that accomplishing?

Its caused a great deal of talking about them in the media, which is good for them since before this nobody gave a rat's ass about them.

[Guest Ghettoman]

Yeah, Justin and Janet were really having a rough go career wise before all this.....

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Their careers were starting to die is what I meant, this pumps some life back into them because its gets people talking about them again.

[NYU 0]

Hence the look of two overly shocked performers who couldn't act that well if they took lessons for years.

-Justin didn't look shocked.

 

-Janet looked a little shocked but how hard is it to fake the expression? Look, I'll put on a shocked face right now. *Puts on shocked face: AHHHHHH!* There. And I didn't even need acting lessons to do it. You're forgetting that Janet HAS acted before (Diff'rent Strokes, Nutty Professor II) Sure, they weren't incredibly good acting jobs but I'm sure - SURE - that she has the ability to look shocked.

 

It was obviously planned. There was no costume underneath there if the whole thing was ripped off. (EDIT: Yes, I do see the red dress there. But how could one side have completely fallen down while the other stood up? Wouldn't they have taken MEASURES to stop that kind of thing, as I'm sure thousands of performers have done before. The thing doesn't make sense.)

 

And curiously, she had a nipple ring that coincidentally blocked the nipple - for the most part - from being exposed. Some people didn't even KNOW they could see the top of the nip until we got the close-up pics today. What would have been the excuse for such a huge ring if there was something underneath her dress that was surely to "snap off"? Just Janet's unique sense of fashion? For some reason, I doubt it.

[Guest Ghettoman]

It's actually a thing used to elongate the nipple, considering she's a freaky bitch it's not suprising.

 

And no, they would have to be the best actor in the world, hands down, to fake such a natural expression. First off you can't force the look on there faces, certain things must come natural in acting, especially reaction. There's no way two musicians have enough ability to not only have complete control over the facial expression and body language, but to make you think they didn't while they were doing it. Simply impossible.

 

And Justin wasn't shocked? Is that why he acted like a lost little boy when it happened and quickly went to the ending while Janet gave him the WTF look?

 

The red fluffly lace stuff was supposed to stay, you could see it was under her outfit. Pretty much everything covering her chest was supposed to come off, revealing a lingerie like outfit. Thats why there's snaps all over the costume, thats why MTV hyped the suprise, it's why the lyrics were timed where they were.

[Guest Ghettoman]

NY Untouchable, look at the pics where you can see her outfit real well, notice where the snaps were. There were snaps on the side where he grabbed that would of removed the whole black leather part, and the same near her neck.

[Guest Ghettoman]

"Their careers were starting to die is what I meant, this pumps some life back into them because its gets people talking about them again.

"

 

According to....you? Thats a pretty dumb statement considering you have absolutely nothing to back it up.

[snuffbox 0]

uh...

 

i think the pregame mtv.com article that promised 'something shocking' and asked 'what will janet do?' kinda makes it an obvious stunt.

 

but if ghettoman says it wasnt...and he cant be wrong...then...well...

[Guest Ghettoman]

Try reading my posts, then replying to them. Makes things easier.

[NYU 0]

Well, look a little closer. There may appear to be snaps that would rip off both pieces of leather covering the breasts. But:

 

1. There doesn't seem to be a snap in the middle where the whole thing would be ripped off. Like he would rip from the left to the right, then the top would fall, and she would be standing in red lace. He would rip at the left, then stop in the middle, because there's nothing bridging the two together. If he WAS to rip the whole jacket off, how could a simple swipe from left to right accomplish that, even IF it was made of snaps?

 

which leads me to....

 

2. If he was supposed to rip the whole thing, why did he conveniently stop immediately after ripping the right breast? If it was a split-second type of decision, he should have kept going since he didn't know it was going to happen. Yet, as soon as he did that one boob, he stopped. I don't understand why.

 

And I still disagree with you on the acting thing. If Justin and Janet both knew what was going to happen, at the exact point it was going to happen, I think they would be able to pull a surprised face if they wanted to. It really is no different than acting. They knew what was going to happen, so they planned their reactions in sync to the incident. I don't see why you think it would be so difficult.

[snuffbox 0]

Try reading my posts, then replying to them. Makes things easier.

ghettoman...

 

http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:fdY9B...tart=1&ie=UTF-8

 

its even been highlighted for you big guy....get off viacom's nuts...dont listen to bullshit...and just read how it was a setup.

[Guest Anglesault]

Hence the look of two overly shocked performers who couldn't act that well if they took lessons for years.

 

Shock?

Edited February 3, 2004 by Anglesault

[Guest Ghettoman]

Read my posts where I already talked about that, then respond. Like I said it'll make things easier.

 

NY, take a look near her neck, there's a snap there, and ones on the other side of her. Meaning going from right to left, the entire front part of the thing would of came off, seperating on both of her sides, near the neck and under her boobs. And he stopped because it came off, and there was boob, Janet didn't even know until she looked down and saw the leather still on, which to me is what gave away that something else was supposed to happen.

 

And if they were acting, it's levels beyond anything we've ever seen by an actor, and considering who they are, thats just no possible. No one can have the amount of control over everything there doing, to the point where it can look natural on live tv. No one.

[Guest Ghettoman]

And no AS:

 

http://chaosn.com/sp-janet-jackson-superbowl.avi

 

Shock.

[snuffbox 0]

yea...theyre clearly shocked...its definitly not a setup...christ..

 

is ghettoman actually the return of Johnson as a new gimmick?

[Guest Ghettoman]

snuffbox if you don't have a point, shut the fuck up.

 

So yeah, shut the fuck up.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

"Their careers were starting to die is what I meant, this pumps some life back into them because its gets people talking about them again."

 

According to....you? Thats a pretty dumb statement considering you have absolutely nothing to back it up.

Nothing to back it up except for the fact neither have released an album in awhile and the public hadn't been talking about them. Now its all over the radio and TV thus placing them back into the public spotlight.

 

I suggest you leave your mom's basement every now and again and see what's happening outside.

[Guest Ghettoman]

Happening outside? You mean Justins overly succesful FIRST solo album? Janet Jackson getting press for something her BROTHER does? The fact that these two wouldn't have to do anything for the rest of there lives and could still die as success's in terms of there careers!?

 

Which of these happenings would you suggest?

[snuffbox 0]

snuffbox if you don't have a point, shut the fuck up.

 

So yeah, shut the fuck up.

i do have a point duder...your believing the damage control statemts of television networks and ignoring a multitude of facts...your clearly in the wrong and sound terribly delusional/retarded but try to argue just for the sheer annoyance of it. just like good ol johnson, and many other handicapped kids.

[Guest Ghettoman]

"your believing the damage control statemts of television networks and ignoring a multitude of facts"

 

I've discussed everyone of those 'facts', but of course you'd have to read my posts to realize that, and well you didn't.

[NYU 0]

Happening outside? You mean Justins overly succesful FIRST solo album? Janet Jackson getting press for something her BROTHER does? The fact that these two wouldn't have to do anything for the rest of there lives and could still die as success's in terms of there careers!?

 

Which of these happenings would you suggest?

Well, to be fair.....

 

When WAS Justin's solo album released? And who's been getting all the attention lately? Why, his ex-girlfriend, Ms. Spears.

 

And to be fair....

 

Who REALLY wants to get media attention based on the fact that their brother is being accused of child molestation? Certainly not any type of worthwhile publicity.

 

And to be fair....

 

If these two love attention as much as they seem to, they would never be happy living the rest of their lives without doing anything and being in the public eye.

 

This stunt brought both of them public attention - which, even if they didn't NEED, they definitely WANTED.