Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Harley.. the plan of Bored's is Jeter at second, Lamb at third. granted.. with the left-handed hitting facing right-handed Yankee pitchers, putting Jeter, who lacks range, on the right side of the infield doesn't seem to be very good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Okay forget the Jeter at 2nd thing for a moment. It is still stupid to move A-Rod from shortstop to accomodate Jeter. Jeter is one of the worst, if not the worst, defensive shortstop in baseball. You just trade for one of the best, if not the best, defenisve shortstop in baseball. It makes no sense whatsover to keep Jeter at short. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Wow, two threads talking about the same thing. :| Anyways, it's not offical, and I highly doubt the offices will allow this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Why wouldn't the offices allow it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Because it's lopsided, and... I hate the Yankees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I hate the Yankees. Good for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I hate the Yankees. Good for you. Ok? Anyways, this is getting nuts. This is NOT good for baseball. It's friggin ridiculous. $200 Mil payroll? They are closely getting to the point where they average $10M a player for 25 man roster. It's not only unfair (MLB needs a fucking cap) it's unreal in a sense of the Yankees can do anything, buy anyone, whenever they want. This is not good for baseball, not good for sports, it's just a fucking laugh fest. Idiot fans all you know... hmm, someones hurt ... lets go buy another player! Lets trade garbage for the highest paid player because we can~! Hmm, we dont have a #5 pitcher, lets go buy a hall of famer and throw hmi in that spot~! YAY!! I am getting sick of it. It's not fun anymore to be a baseball fan when shit like this takes place. [/END RANT] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Soriano is garbage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Soriano is garbage? He's not garbage with the bat, but he is in the field, and he's overrated at the plate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I'll steal from an earlier alkeiper post: "Taking a look at Win Shares, A-Rod had 32 last year, while Soriano had 27. " So Arod is almost a 2 win improvement. So the Rangers don't make out too bad here. Shed a monster contract and don't get hurt too much in player downgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Well, if they get Contreras, it makes it alittle more even, but still not close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Who had the lowest payroll in 2003? Montreal? Tampa Bay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I hate the Yankees. Good for you. Ok? Anyways, this is getting nuts. This is NOT good for baseball. I agree. It's fucking stupid as all hell that George Steinbrenner is the only owner willing to go to all lengths to win. Bud Selig has to put his foot down. Owners MUST spend a certain amount of money (say, 80 mil) or have their team stripped from them. That's fair. Idiot fans all you know... hmm, someones hurt ... lets go buy another player Should we have wheeled Boone out to play 3rd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Wasn't it Tampa as they were making less money as a team than Arod did last year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Owners MUST spend a certain amount of money (say, 80 mil) or have their team stripped from them. That's fair. I haven't heard the concept of a salary floor yet, and it does have its merits. It's not fair if the owners intentionally load up the team with AAA guys getting paid the bare minimum just because they're not willing to invest in the team's success. As someone struggling to be a Chicago Blackhawks fan, I know what it's like. But the Yankees still spend too much. Damn them to hell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 It will make it even funner when the Yankees come back to Seattle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Soriano was indeed horrible in the field, ranked 23rd in the majors in RF among 2B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I hate the Yankees. Good for you. Ok? Anyways, this is getting nuts. This is NOT good for baseball. I agree. It's fucking stupid as all hell that George Steinbrenner is the only owner willing to go to all lengths to win. Bud Selig has to put his foot down. Owners MUST spend a certain amount of money (say, 80 mil) or have their team stripped from them. That's fair. That is a stupid way to put it. But, hey - it's a Yankee fan. First off, not ever owner has the money George has, teams are in different markets, and secondly, there should be a cap. When theres a cap in place, and Geroge won't be able to buy anyone and everyone he wants, and things get alittle more realistic, the game will be better off. Right now, it's a fucking joke how NY runs its team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I really hate the Yankees. With that said, the salary cap is a bad idea. Besides, its not like the Yankees are runaway favorites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Courtesy of espn.com, for 2003...... 1. NY Yankees 156,948,495 2. Los Angeles 115,764,287 3. Boston 100,651,177 4. Atlanta 99,195,593 5. San Francisco 89,052,167 6. Seattle 87,184,500 7. NY Mets 86,341,429 8. Chicago Cubs 86,252,833 9. St. Louis 84,106,269 10. Arizona 75,914,933 11. Texas 72,941,367 12. Philadelphia 70,452,500 13. Chicago Sox 68,949,684 14. Anaheim 68,325,467 15. Minnesota 67,795,500 16. Baltimore 67,502,275 17. Houston 66,864,840 18. Colorado 59,711,017 19. Cincinnati 58,436,777 20. Florida 52,538,298 21. Oakland 49,277,634 22. Cleveland 47,610,134 23. Detroit 46,564,000 24. Montreal 45,834,500 25. San Diego 44,524,500 26. Kansas City 43,323,500 27. Pittsburgh 42,106,059 28. Milwaukee 27,887,000 29. Toronto 27,523,500 30. Tampa Bay 18,730,000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I really hate the Yankees. With that said, the salary cap is a bad idea. Besides, its not like the Yankees are runaway favorites. The Cap is not a bad idea. It'd stop all of this "Buy whoever, whenever, whereever" we want BS the Yankees got going. Anyways, I agree - this doesn't make the Yankees the favorite still in my book. Pitching owns offense, and Boston still has the edge in that, and PLUS - they still have a great offense themselfs. Boston is still my pick to take the East. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Courtesy of espn.com, for 2003...... 6. Seattle 87,184,500 SPEND THE MONEY ON GOOD PLAYERS~!!!! GODDAMN YOU BASAVI~! (however you spell the name) ::SHAKES FIST IN INCREDIBLE ANGER~!:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 What I don't get is why do this trade in terms of the Rangers end? Mike Young was 15th in Range Factor among 2B, a full 8 places higher then Alfonso Soriano and thus is better defensively. Granted, Soriano is better offensively but is losing the defense worth it? A-Rod finished 14th among SS in RF so who would replace him at SS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I hate the Yankees. Good for you. Ok? Anyways, this is getting nuts. This is NOT good for baseball. I agree. It's fucking stupid as all hell that George Steinbrenner is the only owner willing to go to all lengths to win. Bud Selig has to put his foot down. Owners MUST spend a certain amount of money (say, 80 mil) or have their team stripped from them. That's fair. First off, not ever owner has the money George has Sell the team. and secondly, there should be a cap. When theres a cap in place, and Geroge won't be able to buy anyone and everyone he wants And how does that prevent Owners from spending the bare minimum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 That says 2003? What about 2004? No way the Twins are at 67 million this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I hate the Yankees. Good for you. Ok? Anyways, this is getting nuts. This is NOT good for baseball. I agree. It's fucking stupid as all hell that George Steinbrenner is the only owner willing to go to all lengths to win. Bud Selig has to put his foot down. Owners MUST spend a certain amount of money (say, 80 mil) or have their team stripped from them. That's fair. First off, not ever owner has the money George has Sell the team. and secondly, there should be a cap. When theres a cap in place, and Geroge won't be able to buy anyone and everyone he wants And how does that prevent Owners from spending the bare minimum? I don't quite understand what you are saying. You think owners aren't spending the bucks like Geroge is because they don't want to win? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 You could do rough estimates, but you can't say before the season starts, especially since many teams are still waiting on arbitration results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted February 14, 2004 That says 2003? What about 2004? No way the Twins are at 67 million this year. You won't see 2004 until atleast the beginning of the season. Lots of players have yet to be signed. But, the Twins shedded alot of money this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I really hate the Yankees. With that said, the salary cap is a bad idea. Besides, its not like the Yankees are runaway favorites. The Cap is not a bad idea. It'd stop all of this "Buy whoever, whenever, whereever" we want BS the Yankees got going. Anyways, I agree - this doesn't make the Yankees the favorite still in my book. Pitching owns offense, and Boston still has the edge in that, and PLUS - they still have a great offense themselfs. Boston is still my pick to take the East. The cap hasn't helped other sports at all. Parity in the NFL is due to the lack of guaranteed contracts. For the Yankees, their recklessness will cost them down the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 Gotta agree that the cap is a bad idea, hell many Patriots players would need to slash money to just stay with the team because of the cap. If that happened in baseball you'd no longer see the Cal Ripken Jr.'s and Tony Gwynn's sticking with one team which is what IMO makes baseball so great, that players can be identified with being loyal to one team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
