Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 17, 2004 I just realized something. Greg has 289 wins. Thanks to Shithead Clemens, I'm not gonna be able to get behind the quest to 300. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Double post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Give me a break. This is called the open market. You can earn as much money as you can, and spend as much as you want. There is nothing preventing the other 29 teams from doing what the Yankees have done. NOTHING. The Yankees have built this team fair and square. I hate them, but I applaud them. Except for the fact that Steinbrenner has revenue streams no one else has or could ever produce, due to the Yankees being who they are and being situated where they are. Fun fact: The Yankees spend more on players now than a third of the teams are worth in total. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Again Greg Maddux is not the four-time Cy Young winner, first ballot hall of famer anymore. He's now a 38-year old league average pitcher. This isn't that big of a deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Give me a break. This is called the open market. You can earn as much money as you can, and spend as much as you want. There is nothing preventing the other 29 teams from doing what the Yankees have done. NOTHING. The Yankees have built this team fair and square. I hate them, but I applaud them. Sure there is. People make more money in NYC than in other places. Go talk to KC and see how much the locals make there. Then the owners have to adjust ticket prices to suit the people who live around their team. You really don't know much of sports economics if you think every team can openly throw $200mill out to players and not go bankrupt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Happy Medium 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 This is just too bad. I as really looking forward to seeing Maddux teaching Prior, Wood, Zambrano, and Clement the ways of the Samurai...or the outside corner. Cubs needed Maddux for good karma. Cubs and Red Sox both feel the wrath of George in a 24 hour period. Burn, Yankees. Burn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 HOW could small markets support a $200,000,000 team? In what convoluted world should small-market owners expect to throw out these teams and expect a profit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 17, 2004 (edited) Cubs and Red Sox both feel the wrath of George in a 24 hour period. Ain't it beautiful? I still think the ideal way for the playoffs to end would have been Yankees over Red Sox-Cubs over Marlins-Yankees over Cubs. Anyway, my point is that I fully support anything that hurts the Sawx or Cubbies' chances of winning the WS. Edited February 17, 2004 by Anglesault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Happy Medium 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 I support anything that hurts the Yankees. So when A-Rod goes down for the rest of the year with a ruptured testicle, drinks are on me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Give me a break. This is called the open market. You can earn as much money as you can, and spend as much as you want. There is nothing preventing the other 29 teams from doing what the Yankees have done. NOTHING. The Yankees have built this team fair and square. I hate them, but I applaud them. Sure there is. People make more money in NYC than in other places. Go talk to KC and see how much the locals make there. Then the owners have to adjust ticket prices to suit the people who live around their team. You really don't know much of sports economics if you think every team can openly throw $200mill out to players and not go bankrupt. Not everyone but Carl Poland, BILLIONAIRE owner of the Twins could if he wanted but he chooses not to. Not defending Steinbrenner as the Yankees pull a profit every year even with their payroll. If he had to handle a small market team and dip into his own money I don't know if he'd be so generous. There are plenty of owners out there who have the money to spend but just simply don't want to. It's a shame because the Poland's, David Glass', and Steve Schott's of the world could help prevent the Yankees (and Red Sox for that matter, how soon you Boston fans forget) from signing and trading for so many high priced players. The Yankees don't only sign these players because they have the money, they also sign them because other teams are unwilling to pay the going rate for many of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 17, 2004 I support anything that hurts the Yankees Yeah, but for no legitimate reason. And what people forget is that the baseball gods were really mean to the Yankees lately for no reason. This is our reward for sticking through it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 I support anything that hurts the Yankees Yeah, but for no legitimate reason. And what people forget is that the baseball gods were really mean to the Yankees lately for no reason. This is our reward for sticking through it. Please explain how the baseball gods have been mean to the Yankees lately. Winning in 96, 98, 99, 00. Getting to the World Series in 01. Getting to the playoffs in 02. Getting to the World Series in 03. Jeez, if the baseball gods have been mean to the Yankees, then just HOW bad must they have been to the Brewers? Tigers? Indians? Royals? Sox?! Cubs?! Even the Mets?! At least Yankee fans had something to celebrate about for three consecutive years. Then, for 2001-2003, they STILL had the whole season to look forward to, knowing that they would eventually make the playoffs no matter what. For the past few years, there has been some genuine EXCITEMENT for Yankee fans throughout the baseball season. What about those small market fans that don't get a chance to be excited for their team because there's no chance they'll ever make it as far as the World Series? What about them? The baseball gods must have been REALLY shitty to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 17, 2004 as a Red Sox fan(well kinda now, I really am that disgusted all around at baseball) they refused to take A-Rod's contract as is and that's why the deal fell through. They tried getting rid of Manny all together too by placing him on waivers because they don't want the contract. I don't think they'll resign Nomar to be honest, I think they'll offer arby and take the draft picks if need be, then go after Edgar Renteria. I also don't think Pedro is coming back unless he takes a big paycut, they could instead go after Matt Morris who costs less or just let Pedro go and go with Schilling, Lowe, Wakefield, Kim, Lyon(which I think will happen) Besides Schilling and Foulke the new management has not added a marquie superstar. They're also going to be cutting payroll after this year from what the public spokesman for the team has said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cpac Report post Posted February 17, 2004 I reported that you douche in the offseason baseball thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Can anybody else tell me what that ^ means? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 17, 2004 I support anything that hurts the Yankees Yeah, but for no legitimate reason. And what people forget is that the baseball gods were really mean to the Yankees lately for no reason. This is our reward for sticking through it. Please explain how the baseball gods have been mean to the Yankees lately. Nothing good has happened for us since the Clinton Administration. . Getting to the playoffs in 02 Never bring that year up again. Jeez, if the baseball gods have been mean to the Yankees, then just HOW bad must they have been to the Brewers? Tigers? Indians? Royals? Sox?! Cubs?! Even the Mets?! Those teams just show that the baseball gods have a healthy sense of humor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Wait......didn't Greg Maddux say he never wanted to play for the New York Yankees? Or is he that desperate for money (and another World Series ring) that he had to sign with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Or is he that desperate for money (and another World Series ring) Uhm, why else would someone play the game? The only two valid reasons are money and rings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Or is he that desperate for money (and another World Series ring) Uhm, why else would someone play the game? The only two valid reasons are money and rings. Sadly he's right, as love of the game no longer exists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Or is he that desperate for money (and another World Series ring) Uhm, why else would someone play the game? The only two valid reasons are money and rings. Sadly he's right, as love of the game no longer exists. Besides, I think love of the game and winning rings kind of go hand-in-hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Or is he that desperate for money (and another World Series ring) Uhm, why else would someone play the game? The only two valid reasons are money and rings. Sadly he's right, as love of the game no longer exists. Ask all the Minor Leaguers...of course, most of them will say they want to be in the majors for the money and the bitches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 hey.. basic economics here with Pohlad and Glass. If you maintain a 100m+ payroll in a small market, even as a billionaire, you will lose money. Losing money for years = not good. Although Pohlad could sink his money into getting a real stadium for the Twins. Maddux as a Yankee, while god damn insane, doesn't really do much for me. Ya know why? No left-handed pitchers. Pitching wins titles. EOS. The last time the Yankees went without a left-handed starter: 1992 The Yankees weren't all that bad hitting wise.. with Mattingly and Tartabull. But.. their pitching was horrible. Scott Boras, Son of the Devil, you got any more people to bring to the Yankees? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 17, 2004 From what I've seen winning a ring now is bragging rights to most players and nothing more. Most people also want a ring now to 'prove' they're the best...which also throws out the fact that its a team sport. Its now just a bunch of egos looking for personal records and money. I at least have respect for the Dimaggio<sp?>, Mantle, Berra, Ford led Yanks because they were real men who didn't make a boatload of cash off the game. Yogi infact had a summer job a few seasons. They played for love of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 17, 2004 From my memory (or baseball statistic books) the Yankees were terrible for the majority of the 80s and early 90s. I don't know why, I didn't follw baseball until 1993, but they didn't win a World Series title for 18 years I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Boras signed by Yankees as 'advanced scout' NEW YORK - After an offseason where Boras clients Kevin Brown, Greg Maddux and Alex Rodriguez made their way to New York. Scott Boras formalized a deal to act as a scout for the New York Yankees. "I guess the Yankees just liked my work at getting some big names to come play in New York" said Boras Boras denied rumors of an all-Boras Yankees team, joking "You know Derek Jeter wouldn't like that". Boras then clarified that "Jeter will be forced to move though, considering Rodriguez's talent and charisma will make Jeter as hip as Vanilla Ice. No offense to Derek, but Alex is the new hotness and Derek is old and busted" Boras will be assigned to such up and comers as Carlos Beltran, for when he becomes a free agent after 2004. Says Boras "I suspect we could find somewhere to put him". Boras also refused to answer rumors that he was gonna become "very friendly" with Albert Pujols. Boras denied rumors of a trade to bring Chan Ho Park to the Bronx. Boras contract will be for one million a year, with deductions for any clubhouse vandalism that Kevin Brown may commit during the year. George Steinbrenner denied rumors that he was pushing for the batting order to be increased from 9 to 11 with the addition of two more designated hitters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Uhm...ha? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Harry Hood Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Ya know every day I really think we get closer to this... Fucking Yankees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 . Getting to the playoffs in 02 Never bring that year up again. Yeah, because the Yankees got their asses handed to them that year. Yankees fans have seen 9 straight playoff berths, 4 world series titles, 6 pennants, and 16 playoff series victories in the last nine seasons . Shit, my two favorite teams, the Reds and Tigers, two teams with a lot of history, only have 4 World Series titles and 11 playoff berths in the last 35 years. So to me if your team makes the postseason, not even the World Series, its a suceessful season. I mean if either the Tigers or the Reds break .500 I would call it a good year. But, Yankees fans have been so spoiled to the point where they consider every year that doesn't end in a world title a failure and try and point the blame at individual players when the team doesn't win it all ( cough... Jeff Weaver). I just can't wait for the Yankees to suck again, which might not happen for another 15 years with the way baseball's economic structure is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Why is it that every other single person in North America is allowed to be an unabashed capitalist if they so choose, but pro athletes are still expected to play "for love of the game" as if their sole purpose is to entertain other people and not make a living for themselves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 17, 2004 . Getting to the playoffs in 02 Never bring that year up again. Yeah, because the Yankees got their asses handed to them that year. You could say that. So to me if your team makes the postseason, not even the World Series, its a suceessful season Correction. If your team makes the post season, it's successful. If my team makes it and turns around an embarasses me, it is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
