Guest Loss Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Angle is a clean cut, All-American type who tries to live life by the rules and do the right thing. He's gotten a mixed reaction through the years as a result. While he's out with his injury, he notices Eddy Guerrero gaining the love of the people and it drives him crazy. How can the fans support a guy who lies, cheats and steals? How can they possibly cheer that? When Angle came back, he tried to encourage him to stay close to his family because if the fans are going to cheer someone with no moral ground to stand on, at least he can maintain family values. Chavo ended up turning on Eddy because Eddy was too selfish, which showed Angle that Eddy had no appreciation for family values or any values at all. As a result, he has to send him packing. He has to get the WWE title off of him and he has to show the people what they should love and appreciate, which isn't someone as scummy as Eddy. On top of that, it has angered him even more that he was booed when he turned on Eddy or that Eddy was cheered when he eliminated Angle in the SD Royal Rumble. It disgusts him that the crowds are supporting Guerrero. Take that approach and you have a Bret/Austin vibe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 18, 2004 While he's out with his injury, he notices Eddy Guerrero gaining the love of the people and it drives him crazy. How can the fans support a guy who lies, cheats and steals? How can they possibly cheer that? He didn't notice this back in, say, October when Eddie's reaction was really ridiculous? Because, mainly thanks to Chavo, Eddie's huge reactions kind of went south during Angle's injury. If Eddie's reaction was such a bother to Kurt, he would have forgotten the all important rap offs and midget skits with cena and acted then when eddie was getting a great reaction and on the path to the belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted February 18, 2004 He didn't notice this back in, say, October when Eddie's reaction was really ridiculous? Because, mainly thanks to Chavo, Eddie's huge reactions kind of went south during Angle's injury. If Eddie's reaction was such a bother to Kurt, he would have forgotten the all important rap offs and midget skits with cena and acted then when eddie was getting a great reaction and on the path to the belt. Not necessarily. He was so distracted by Cena because he presented a tough challenge that he didn't notice the reaction Eddy was getting. He got a birds' eye view of the situation while injured, and realized things needed to change. If Angle 'drops' Cena immediately to go after Eddy, how does that make Cena look? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 What I want to know is, why are Cena and Angle being paired as a Tag Team? I remember reading about how Angle said that he and Cena would be tag team champs in 2004, while he was speaking at a University. I think that would be a weird idea, considering Angle is turning heel, and Cena is still a face going after the U.S. Title. Other than them both wanting their respective titles, there's really no reason to pair them together. I guess they might be going for the "upper carders who don't like each other but coexist" card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted February 18, 2004 I think it was just a one-time thing and won't be followed up, unless they do another feud with Cena going over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Assuming Cena wins at WM (the U.S. Title), Angle would be above Cena in terms of card placement. Angle would be in the WWE World Title match, and for him to move down to feud with Cena would make no sense. Alright, I can see it happening now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 18, 2004 He didn't notice this back in, say, October when Eddie's reaction was really ridiculous? Because, mainly thanks to Chavo, Eddie's huge reactions kind of went south during Angle's injury. If Eddie's reaction was such a bother to Kurt, he would have forgotten the all important rap offs and midget skits with cena and acted then when eddie was getting a great reaction and on the path to the belt. Not necessarily. He was so distracted by Cena because he presented a tough challenge that he didn't notice the reaction Eddy was getting. Oh, come on, Kurt would have to be a retard. Eddie was all over the shows blowing the roof off the place. If Angle 'drops' Cena immediately to go after Eddy, how does that make Cena look? If the issue was bothering Angle SOOOO, it's human nature to deal with the more important issue. If Kurt is so annoyed over what Eddie has done, the character would settle the more pressing issuse right away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Assuming Cena wins at WM (the U.S. Title), Angle would be above Cena in terms of card placement. Angle would be in the WWE World Title match, and for him to move down to feud with Cena would make no sense. Alright, I can see it happening now. Yet if Cena is moving up and Angle loses a title feud with Eddy Guerrero, it does make sense. Cena meets Angle on the way down and Angle meets Cena on the way up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Maybe by trying to keep Los Guerreros together, he was secretly leaving Eddie open for Chavo's attacks...therefore splitting up the best tag team in the business, so that the WGTT could get a clear-run to the belts... ...leading to a Team Angle reformation. ...so, yeah, let's forget January. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Oh, come on, Kurt would have to be a retard. He was in another feud. In case you haven't noticed, most WWE feuds exist in their own universe. Eddie was all over the shows blowing the roof off the place. And Angle was all over the shows feuding with John Cena. He wasn't paying attention to Eddy at the time. That doesn't make him a moron; that just means he was focused on the task at hand. If the issue was bothering Angle SOOOO, it's human nature to deal with the more important issue. Not in wrestling. In wrestling, you feud with your rival at the time, you don't ignore them to move on to something else. If Kurt is so annoyed over what Eddie has done, the character would settle the more pressing issuse right away. This is right away. This is the first chance he's had to do something about it, especially since they're wrestling for the title at 'Mania. I've seen some bad storylines in my time, and this is far from bad, or even really stretching much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 AS, couldn't Angle say that he tried his hardest to help keep the Guerreros together, Why. Um, I can think of 2 possible explanations right off the bat: 1) At the time he was a mom, apple pie, and American flag loving face who was trying to keep a family together. Eddy, however, didn't try hard enough and it led to the breakup and Angle feeling unappreciated that all his effort went to waste. 2) He saw Eddie as a threat in the Rumble, SD RR, and even up to NWO. However, he also saw that Chavo was a distraction to Eddy and keeping him from setting his sights higher. So, he tried to purposely drag out the Eddy/Chavo issue to keep Eddy distracted. When that didn't work, he went in for the kill to establish himself as the preeminent challenger. BTW, is it "Eddie" or "Eddy"? I've used both, and am curious as to which is the commonly accepted spelling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PowerPB13 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 The only debate that should be going on right now is how WWE will screw this up. Midgets? Put the tag belts on Eddy and Angle for no reason? Have Brock destroy them both at some point? THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS! -Patrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Assuming Cena wins at WM (the U.S. Title), Angle would be above Cena in terms of card placement. Angle would be in the WWE World Title match, and for him to move down to feud with Cena would make no sense. Alright, I can see it happening now. Yet if Cena is moving up and Angle loses a title feud with Eddy Guerrero, it does make sense. Cena meets Angle on the way down and Angle meets Cena on the way up. True, however, do they feud? And if they do, is it for the U.S. Title (a belt that is perfect for Cena yet below Angle in a way)? Or would it just be a feud to continue the one they had in October (and the friction they've had over the past few weeks)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 18, 2004 AS, couldn't Angle say that he tried his hardest to help keep the Guerreros together, Why. Um, I can think of 2 possible explanations right off the bat: 1) At the time he was a mom, apple pie, and American flag loving face who was trying to keep a family together. Eddy, however, didn't try hard enough and it led to the breakup and Angle feeling unappreciated that all his effort went to waste. 2) He saw Eddie as a threat in the Rumble, SD RR, and even up to NWO. However, he also saw that Chavo was a distraction to Eddy and keeping him from setting his sights higher. So, he tried to purposely drag out the Eddy/Chavo issue to keep Eddy distracted. When that didn't work, he went in for the kill to establish himself as the preeminent challenger. BTW, is it "Eddie" or "Eddy"? I've used both, and am curious as to which is the commonly accepted spelling. because of WCW's convulted International Name rule still effects us all and I haven't changed over to EDDIE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Eddie was all over the shows blowing the roof off the place. And Angle was all over the shows feuding with John Cena. He wasn't paying attention to Eddy at the time. That doesn't make him a moron; that just means he was focused on the task at hand. That isn't focused, that's living in your own little cloud of smoke. Not in wrestling. In wrestling, you feud with your rival at the time, you don't ignore them to move on to something else. Both Angle AND Brock had just done it. They put aside their blood feud with each other to deal with other nucances. This is right away. This is the first chance he's had to do something about it, especially since they're wrestling for the title at 'Mania. If you want to say he couldn't dump Cena, the first shot Kurt ha to deal with it was November. At the time he was a mom, apple pie, and American flag loving face who was trying to keep a family together. The man who has fed his brother to the wolves over and over again and tried to cheat on his wife with Stephanie McMahon? He saw Eddie as a threat in the Rumble Despite Eddie never being built up as such. SD RR He knew that ws gonna happen? Damn. He's Miss Cleo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted February 18, 2004 'Eddie' should be thought of in the same light as 'Ultimate Dragon'. Promotional flub by WCW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 18, 2004 And if they do, is it for the U.S. Title No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 18, 2004 And if they do, is it for the U.S. Title No. Bullshit. If Flair and Sting were willing to slide down to the U.S title, Kurt fucking Angle certaintly can do the same. He is nothing special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 18, 2004 No. The last time he did he lost his heat FOR THREE MONTHS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 So far, everytime Angle and Cena cross paths, there is always a lot of heat between the two, and from the crowd. The last feud was bad, but produced a very good match (didn't Angle have the book for it?). I don't think that if or when Angle loses to Eddie, he'll just begin feuding with a U.S. Champion Cena. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I don't think that if or when Angle loses to Eddie, he'll just begin feuding with a U.S. Champion Cena. It doesn't make sense. It's bad for everyone involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I finally got around to watching the show. Its not a bad show, but none of the 3 matches was much. 1) The whole "someone gets attacked backstage every week" thing, while annoying, looks to be playing out to some sort of "Whodunnit" angle. But the thing that makes it so bad is each time (Eddy, Angle, now Chavo Sr.) the attacked person manages to come back right near the end. 2) Lesnar delivered a god awful performance in his plea for Goldberg. I especially like the part where he gets on his knees and looks up to the sky when asking Vince to give him Goldberg. 3) Rey was promised a rematch with Chavo as long as Chavo won the match (which he didn't) and Rey didn't interfere in the match (which he technically did) so I guess Rey's gonna get the "NO TITLE SHOT FOR YOU" treatment. 4) Why do they keep refering to the Kane/Taker situation on RAW? Im guessing Kane is coming to Smackdown instead of Taker going to RAW but if that was the case why wouldn't Kane be on Smackdown by now. The crowd was extremely into Eddy and Cena. The whole "celebration" came off rather nice as Cole/Tazz shut up for about 2 1/2 minutes while Eddy celebrated with the balloons and confetti. Oh, and you'll all be happy to know that Billy Gunn/Tajiri was scrapped. The APA/Too Cool/WGTT segment was scrapped as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I always assumed that Angle wanted to take the title from Brock like Brock did the year earlier, and Angle was trying to tie up all the possible candidates from coming after it. He tried to keep Eddy in the tag ranks because he figured he had the best shot at winning. Benoit had gone to RAW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites