Guest FrigidSoul Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 few people on the ESPN boards(both Boston and St. Louis) are saying a St. Louis sports radio is saying a deal between St. Louis and Boston is being spoken of where Edgar Renteria and Albert Pujols would be sent to Boston for Nomar, Scott Williamson, another pitcher(most likely Kim), and prospects. I'm just wondering if there's anybody here near St. Louis who can confirm this as I trust people here more.
Guest OctoberBlood Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 Anything from the ESPN boards are almost always 100% bullshit.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 Oh, I know that....but sometimes they do get nuggets correct. Like the Ramon Hernandez & T-Long to San Diego deal, Schilling to the Sox, Williamson to the Sox, and Colon to the Expos. I also don't understand why people in St. Louis would be discussing it since if I'm a Cards fan I want Pujols.
Guest OctoberBlood Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 Because Puljos is asking for a ridiculous amount of money in his first year of arbitration.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 He's the Cardinals' franchise player though. You lock him up. I don't think I want the deal to happen because it takes a few key components out of our pitching staff and prospects for more offense when we have a nice offense.
Guest OctoberBlood Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 Yes, you lock him up - I am not questioning that, but like I said, the amount of money he is asking for is ridiculous, and I don't believe the Cardinals can afford it without putting the rest of the teams needs in jeopardy, but we'll see.
Rob E Dangerously Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 If they're considering it.. they're stupid but.. just for fun.. let's put 2003 Pujols in Fenway Park! here are the changes.. 23 points of BA, 12 more runs, 14 more hits, 3 doubles, 12 home runs, 2 walks, and 3 less strikeouts and here are the changes with 2003 Pujols in Coors Field 30 points of BA, 25 runs, 25 hits, 1 double, 15 home runs, 3 less walks, 2 less strikeouts and Pujols in Kauffman Stadium (damn team.. DRAFT THE KID FROM THE AREA.. nevermind) 24 points, 29 runs, 20 hits, 2 doubles, 14 homers, 3 more walks, 4 less strikeouts Hey kids.. remember.. Pujols hit .388 in a park that favors pitchers. Scary, eh?
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 I don't see it happening. Pujols won't be any more expensive than Nomar this season, and the move would make the team worse. And Nomar's a free agent after this year anyway.
geniusMoment Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 For all of the st. Louis talk you can handle go to the st louis today website and go to the cards talk forum. It is the most active baseball forum I have found, for any team. www.stltoday.com
Cartman Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 Never happening. Even Glen Ordway has finally jumped on my bandwagon in the belief that letting Nomar walk after this year isn't that bad, since they could use that 15 mil he rejected to go after another player that puts up the same, if not better offense than Nomar. Replace Nomar with a good glove at SS and noone will notice the difference.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 I wouldn't mind seeing Nomar walk and the Red Sox go after Edgar Renteria who's a FA next year as well. Alot of contracts come off the books next year. Here's my replacements with the name of who's currently here that has their contract up being listed first Pedro - Kerry Wood or Matt Morris Nomar - Edgar Renteria Then if they can trade Johnny Damon grab Carlos Beltran. We don't need Pujols right now since it will fuck up our pitching.
HarleyQuinn Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 I wouldn't mind having Renteria replace Nomar but I wouldn't let Pedro walk. The guy's too dominant to just let go free and Wood allows way too many walks(80+ throughout his career including 100 last year) and gives up a fair share of HR's. I wouldn't mind having Morris but there's no way that he could replace Pedro's talent.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted February 19, 2004 Report Posted February 19, 2004 Jayson Stark reports the Cards are close to a dear with Pujols. 7 years/$100 million, which works out to $14 million a year.
Gert T Posted February 19, 2004 Report Posted February 19, 2004 Yeah that trade would never happen, because the Cards are trying to hard to fit Pujols, Renteria & Morris into their future plans. They wouldn't get rid of two. And Pujols numbers are too good and he's too young to even think about letting him go.
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