MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 East/West plus we have a couple others that Dish/DTV doesn't. East/West does matter to me at least because it offers more flexability in my TV watching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I think the dick-size waving over the number of premiums has always been a little silly to me, as there's too many declarations that Brand X is better than Brand Y over something like east AND west coast feeds (Wow, a 3 hour time delay. That's really worth something when I own a VCR.) I don't know about the others than HBO but what Comcast has here than DTV doesn't is HBO Comedy and HBO Zone. I have no fucking clue what Zone is supposed to be. I thought Comedy would be cool if it was 24hr standup and Carlin specials but the one time I watched it they were airing "Kangaroo Jack." But the point is more than a tad moot when our friend NoCalMike doesn't live in a Comcast region. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Well DISH/DTV can't compete with our VOD. Plus the 6208's are almost here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Well DISH/DTV can't compete with our VOD. It's called a DVR. Look into it. Plus the 6208's are almost here. Care to tell me what that means in non-codeword form? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I think the dick-size waving over the number of premiums has always been a little silly to me, as there's too many declarations that Brand X is better than Brand Y over something like east AND west coast feeds (Wow, a 3 hour time delay. That's really worth something when I own a VCR.) I don't know about the others than HBO but what Comcast has here than DTV doesn't is HBO Comedy and HBO Zone. I have no fucking clue what Zone is supposed to be. I thought Comedy would be cool if it was 24hr standup and Carlin specials but the one time I watched it they were airing "Kangaroo Jack." But the point is more than a tad moot when our friend NoCalMike doesn't live in a Comcast region. Well Jobber the thing is, (I think I said this somewhere before), my street is the only street in our city without Comcast, as soon as I move out of this house and go ANYWHERE ELSE in the city, Comcast will be an option, so I am just trying to see what the competition looks like...... The only thing that is weird about D!sh is that they offer East Coast feeds of SOME premium channels, yet not others...like HBO East/West HBO 2 East/West HBO Comedy we only get the East feed HBO Signature only get East feed As a family we've always like Comcast cable the best and always thought it was the best option, but when we moved into this house it just wasn't a choice anymore. I think I am gonna go back to Digital Cable when I move out. And Jobber, it aint really dick size waving man, I just want to know the value I am paying for. And yes I have a VCR too and I can tape shows, but it is nice watching Sopranos on the east coast feed that way it doesn't interfere with prime time programming out here, plus the 3rd option to use the vcr for something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Well DISH/DTV can't compete with our VOD. It's called a DVR. Look into it. Plus the 6208's are almost here. Care to tell me what that means in non-codeword form? VOD isn't a DVR. It's shows (Sopranos, Anime Network, movies from Showtime, Max, etc) streamed to your cable box. 6208 - http://broadband.motorola.com/catalog/prod.../506897-001.pdf Basically a DVR that can record HD as well. Dual Tuners. Sweet as hell yo. Wish it had some more of the Tivo functionality but it's cheaper per month in comparison and I still have my Tivo anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 (edited) VOD isn't a DVR. Oh? I haven't used it but someone I know online has it with his cable. He talks about how it's basically a Tivo built into the cable box or something, running from a server in Chatsworth 6208 Now that's interesting. But anything is better than the model we're currently using. At this point, I'm close to willing to pay more money to NOT have that stupid TV Guide Interactive interface, and have a more friendly, easier OSD guide instead. I still don't know why that thing sometimes starts with the channel I'm on when I push guide but 90% of the time jumps to channel 2. It makes no sense, I tell ya. Edited: Why in the fuck did I type VOD instead of OSD? Guess I'm getting distracted here in reality. Edited March 10, 2004 by Jobber of the Week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 The MS guide is pretty cool. VOD is Tivo-like but not Tivo. It is very... very sweet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 MS Guide? Huh? Watching old Double Dare repeats on GAS (not on DTV) and getting all nostalgic over it has made me feel like I'm selling my soul to Comcast in the past few days, but that awful box interface always drives me away from fully embracing it and keeps me a staunch satelite fanboy. But I'm now more open since I'm planning on taking a wrestling hiatus after WM and live Raw doesn't mean that much then. Also, do you know if the HBO channels on Comcast are 5.1? I've read on the company's site that you have to order HD service to get a 5.1 box, but I don't know if only the HD channels are 5.1. Because we're currently enjoying non-HD 5.1 HBO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Well DISH/DTV can't compete with our VOD. It's called a DVR. Look into it. Plus the 6208's are almost here. Care to tell me what that means in non-codeword form? VOD isn't a DVR. It's shows (Sopranos, Anime Network, movies from Showtime, Max, etc) streamed to your cable box. 6208 - http://broadband.motorola.com/catalog/prod.../506897-001.pdf Basically a DVR that can record HD as well. Dual Tuners. Sweet as hell yo. Wish it had some more of the Tivo functionality but it's cheaper per month in comparison and I still have my Tivo anyways. You should see the HD DirecTivo. Supposedly will be available at the end of May. It costs $999. HD DirecTivo 250 GB Hard Drive = 30 Hours of HD recording or 200 Hours of SD Recording. The one negative is that Murdoch is pressuring Tivo to do away with the 30 second commercial skip feature in future Tivo boxes. Im in no financial stand to be able to afford it at $999 (and hell I dont even have a HD TV) but at least its coming. Main reason why I wont fork over the $99 now for a regular DirecTivo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 The one negative is that Murdoch is pressuring Tivo to do away with the 30 second commercial skip feature in future Tivo boxes. That's ReplayTV. Tivo has never had such a thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 The one negative is that Murdoch is pressuring Tivo to do away with the 30 second commercial skip feature in future Tivo boxes. That's ReplayTV. Tivo has never had such a thing. Directivos have a remote button sequence that turns the skip ahead to next marker button into a 30 second skip button. I believe I read that it was Select-Play-Select-3-0-Select. Rupert doesnt even want the ability to hack it like that and get a 30 second skip. News Corp. and Fox are striving to cushion their energetic embrace of personal video recorder technology in DirecTV's set-top boxes with limitations and standards that do not overly threaten the advertising revenue that is key to Fox's TV stations and broadcast network. They will include elimination of the 30-second skip button and place limits on the time allowed to download and store programs. Thats from tvweek.com a while back. And if Comcast buys disney, then they would likely do the same thing with their PVRs or whatever Comcast calls them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I know of the HD Tivo. Price is too high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I know of the HD Tivo. Price is too high. Its actually not that bad, as I think it also includes an OTA tuner for OTA HD broadcasts. That would save a couple hundred bucks if you buy a HD TV without a built in tuner. But yeah, its a bit pricey. But like any new technology it will come down in price and Directv will probably offer a special on it later in the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Most average consumers won't be able to afford that and a good many don't live within OTA range of local stations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Eh, well its a HD Tivo, which means that to get full use out of it you'd have to plunk down close to or over $1,000 for a HD capable TV. The people who are doing that probably have the extra $1,000 for a HD Tivo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 You can pick up a HDTV for ~$400 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I have a feeling this will be worked out in a week or so. The channels being blacked out are too wide a variety to where it probably affects a lot of age groups and viewers. In our House we have D!sh's everything pak, so hopefully we will get EVERYTHING BACK, soon. Yeah, but they lost me as a customer. It's bad enough that they flat out refuse to get YES Network, but this is absolutley unacceptable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 You people watch a lot of TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Well I wouldn't watch much if I had to watch CBC as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 HDTVs used to only be in the league of the Mercedes Benz class, so we'll see HD Tivos go down with time. It's bad enough that they flat out refuse to get YES Network, but this is absolutley unacceptable. Another NY provider got complaints, I remember, because they canned TechTV for YES, which attract two very different spectrums. GEEK VS JOCK FIGHT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 stuff np The only thing that is weird about D!sh is that they offer East Coast feeds of SOME premium channels, yet not others...like HBO East/West HBO 2 East/West HBO Comedy we only get the East feed HBO Signature only get East feed Same anywhere else. These channels never had a west coast feed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 HDTVs used to only be in the league of the Mercedes Benz class, so we'll see HD Tivos go down with time. It's bad enough that they flat out refuse to get YES Network, but this is absolutley unacceptable. Another NY provider got complaints, I remember, because they canned TechTV for YES, which attract two very different spectrums. GEEK VS JOCK FIGHT! Not from what I have seen unfortunately. We are talking still a few hundred above the regular DBS recievers and then how many people* would be willing to spend that just to record in HD? * I would if I had the money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Well, prices do eventually come down for almost everything. Unless they only make a very limited run and then can it, I can't see why prices won't eventually fall to more reasonable levels. It'll still be an expensive toy, but it won't be Starve For Several Checks expensive. =b Who wants to record in HD? We'll find out as more people have HD to watch. Your guys at Comcast making and HD-DVR eventually will probably help bring those prices down. Also, you didn't tell me what the "MS Guide" is? I just spent another evening flipping through guide pages of channels I don't receive in TVGuide Int. so I'm excited at the prospect of any on-screen display that trumps it in usability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 It's quite a bit nicer than the TV Guide one. I think people will like it. We are doing a few trials up here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I figure Id just update the original topic and say that the negotiations between Viacom and Dish Net. are supposedly close but its still iffy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 MAKE THE DAMN DEAL! I called DTV today and they still believe we have their dish. I wish I did have their Dish, I'd shoot the damn thing with a shotgun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 It's quite a bit nicer than the TV Guide one. I think people will like it. We are doing a few trials up here. Then I hope it comes here at some point. I'm still afraid to ask 2Gold what he's yelling about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Whoa, holy shit. Comcast: Basic Package(s) Premium Channels Other Features Monthly Price Standard Cable N/A Converter and Remote $42.00 That's STANDARD ANALOG CABLE there, fellas. And that doesn't even include a ton of the stuff Total Choice Plus has for $42.99. (mouth drops) Now I remember why I went with D*. This is my area, though, it may not be the same for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Look at the channel lineups and it's the same. Plus no extra reciever fees remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
