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I haven't had a chance to see my physician about this yet, because of work, so I figured before I got the chance, I'd ask around here.

 

I was training the other day and I think that I either didn't stretch enough, or I fucked up because about a day or so later I've developed this muscle soreness in my neck/shoulders that goes all the way up into my skull, and feels like a moderate headache.

 

Now, I'm guessing it's a cervicogenic headache as a result of a pinched nerve in my neck. Anyone here ever had this sort of experience? What does the doctor usually prescribe for something like this, or does it heal with time on it's own? It's been persistent since Sunday evening and is really fucking aggravating me, though it's not so painful that I can't turn my head. I just figured with a board full of wrestling fans, a few of you've got to have some sort of experience with weight-training. ;)

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

Did you feel any sort of "ping" or any kind of damage like that? If not, sounds like you've just got muscle fatigue. Take a warm shower, and stretch while you do. Pansy.

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Did you feel any sort of "ping" or any kind of damage like that? If not, sounds like you've just got muscle fatigue. Take a warm shower, and stretch while you do. Pansy.

I do remember something like that. It wasn't really a "ping" but more similar to the sound you get when you crack your knuckles.

 

I'll try the shower/stretch thing this evening but I've also made an appointment to see my physician on Monday - I just hope it's gone by then. :angry:

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I've got something similar in my neck. I was doing squats with the bar, and I guess I placed the bar at the wrong place (on my vertabre), and in the morning, I could barely move my neck. If what you have is somwhat similar to what I had, it'll go away in a couple of days.

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Guest thetrendsetter

what were you working out when this injury happened? specifics would help determine the problem easier, I'd take it it'd be either Shoulders or Back...

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Well, it's been around since Sunday evening. The last time I was working out with weights, before the pain set in, was on Saturday afternoon, and Trendsetter, you're right when you guessed shoulders/back. =\ I didn't really notice how aggravating the pain was, however, until Monday night when I was resuming my regular routine. I got through all of it, but I'm sure my condition worsened because of it. =\ A lot of what I'm experiencing sounds exactly like the symptoms for a cervicogenic headache:

 

Cervicogenic headaches are characterized by pain on one side of the head with associated neck pain on the same side. A patient with these headaches perceives pain in the head, but the actual source of the pain lies in the cervical spine.

 

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The craniovertebral region can give the sensation of pain in not only the suboccipital and occipital region, but also in the temporal and frontal area of the head, and the retro-orbital region. Conversely, TMJ dysfunction can refer pain in and around the ear, the craniovertebral region, may develop scalp soreness, and general or burning neck pain.

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

What exercise were you doing, exactly? I'm my own cutman, I know this shit.

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What exercise were you doing, exactly? I'm my own cutman, I know this shit.

I was working on deltoids and the trapezius, so just a standard overhead lateral press, both behind and in front of the neck. Similar to this image, except that I wasn't seated...

 

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

I still don't think you did any kind of serious damage, unless you've had a previous neck injury, were dealing with tremendous weight, or are exceptionally weak for some reason. You probably just pulled a muscle or something to that extent. If you've got a girlfriend or wife or whatever, get her to rub it, and just be nice to the area in general for a couple days.

 

You could still go to the doc, but you're probably wasting your money.

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

What a racket. Which sucks, the taxes or the quality of care? Both? I've always wondered how that can possibly work. Then again, I'm used to the american overpaid meat magicians.

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What a racket. Which sucks, the taxes or the quality of care? Both? I've always wondered how that can possibly work. Then again, I'm used to the american overpaid meat magicians.

It's not too bad, actually. I've never had a problem with the quality. And aside from that, my work benefits cover about 85% of the cost if there is a fee. But either way, I'll have the GF work it over on the weekend, and if it's still around come Monday, I've got that appointment anyways.. Thanks, though. How long do these things usually last?

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

I tweaked my back pushing a cadillac out of the mud once, and experienced similar pains in that region. I did exactly what I perscribed, and I was golden in a couple days. If it's anything worse, you've got shitty luck, really.

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What exercise were you doing, exactly? I'm my own cutman, I know this shit.

I was working on deltoids and the trapezius, so just a standard overhead lateral press, both behind and in front of the neck. Similar to this image, except that I wasn't seated...

 

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Standing overhead presses are tough on the body especially with the inclination to cheat. Behind the neck is one of the more dangerous weightlifting movements (same as behind the neck chins or pulldowns) to do as it's hard on the rotator cuffs in the shoulder. Behind the neck pulldowns can also be tough on the neck and I think the same holds true for behind the neck presses. Seated military presses are reported to be better and is what I do. I only do them to the front now.

 

As a general rule I find warming up with the weightlifting movement you are actually doing is best for preventing injury (of course great form is really first) as I find if I don't do that I'm more prone to injury.

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Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes

Not to sound like a wuss, but I'm always popping muscles in my legs from over-doing it. I don't do too much weight, but the most I ever did on leg presses is a measly 515 lbs repped about 9 or 10 times. I forgot which because afterwards I couldn't move my legs and had to lie down for about 10-15 minutes.

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If you're tough at all, don't take painkillers at all. You just end up fucking up the injury worse because you think you can do something you really can't.

 

Also, as someone alluded, behind the neck military presses are horrible on your rotator cuffs, so stop doing them. Do them in front or don't do them at all; lat pulldowns excercize virtually the same muscle without the rotator cuff damage.

 

Trust me, you don't want to hurt your rotator cuff. That shit hurts.

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

and don't forget to hit a punching bag for extended periods of time.

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