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is this supposed to appeal to anyone besides liberals or is this just a way for Bush-bashers to bash Bush on a permenant basis?

Is Rush supposed to appeal to anyone besides conservatives and was his TV show just a way for Clinton-bashers to bash Clinton on a regular basis?

 

Do normal apolitical people really care one way or the other about Michael Moore or Al Gore bashing Bush all day long enough to tune in?

 

I don't think so, but I was pretty shocked to see people wearing those dollar bill "ribbons" in the early 90s too.

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If I needed even more of a reason to want Bush to win I have it now. The day after the election listening to these guy will be truly glrorious. They'll sound like whiny children screaming "IT'S NOT FAIR!!! IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!!!". (this is of course assuming this even lasts through November).

I'm placing money on spontaneous combustions aplenty.

-=Mike

..."Oooh, a dominatrix says her clients are mainly Republicans. In other irrelevant news..."

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is this supposed to appeal to anyone besides liberals or is this just a way for Bush-bashers to bash Bush on a permenant basis?

Is Rush supposed to appeal to anyone besides conservatives and was his TV show just a way for Clinton-bashers to bash Clinton on a regular basis?

Well, his audience clearly indicates he does.

 

And, heck, his news bits aren't nearly as biased as the "real" news on this network.

 

BTW, the chick following Franken is horrible --- and she claims they're "making news"? Umm, WHERE? Good lord, Michael Savage isn't NEARLY as bad as this woman. Imagine a whiny Brooklyn accent with RIDICULOUS beliefs and you got this broad.

Do normal apolitical people really care one way or the other about Michael Moore or Al Gore bashing Bush all day long enough to tune in?

I don't think so, but I was pretty shocked to see people wearing those dollar bill "ribbons" in the early 90s too.

Rush did it as a joke.

-=Mike

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Who is this woman and can her voice be any more annoying?

 

She's comparing the Bush's to the Corleone's. She says Jeb fixed the election...she's doing a bad Godfather parody comparison...goodness, this is just getting better and better.

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Who is this woman and can her voice be any more annoying?

 

She's comparing the Bush's to the Corleone's. She says Jeb fixed the election...she's doing a bad Godfather parody comparison...goodness, this is just getting better and better.

No joke. #1 in her market? I'd love to see numbers to back it up.

-=Mike

...LOVE the train wreck.

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Oy vey. From the NY Times:

 

Story...

 

Liberal Voices Get New Home on Radio Dial

By JACQUES STEINBERG

 

Lady Olivia was on the phone from Washington.

 

And Sam Seder, a nighttime host on Air America Radio, the fledgling liberal talk-radio network, had a question about the clientele of his guest, who identified herself as a dominatrix.

 

"More Republicans or more Democrats?" Mr. Seder asked.

 

"Seventy-30," Lady Olivia said.

 

Mr. Seder's broad grin suggested that that was precisely the answer he had hoped for. Sitting in a windowless studio 41 floors above Midtown Manhattan during a rehearsal on Thursday for the program, "The Majority Report," he shuffled through a sheaf of testimonials downloaded from Lady Olivia's Web site, operated under a different name. He soon inquired about the identities of those Republicans, displaying a particular interest in learning more about "Jon from Washington," who had written, "I enjoyed the corporal punishment more than I thought I would."

 

"Does his last name," Mr. Seder asked, "rhyme with Chriscroft?" OMG ROFLMAO2004

 

The exchange yielded no information about the attorney general of the United States. (Lady Olivia's response was little more than a coy laugh.) But it did provide some clues to how Air America, which makes its debut at noon today on five stations with Al Franken, the comedian and political satirist, at the microphone, intends to challenge the hegemony of conservatives on commercial talk radio.

 

"It needs to be entertaining, it needs to be compelling, it needs to be laugh-out-loud funny," said Jon Sinton, a veteran of radio who is a founder of Air America, a subsidiary of Progress Media. "It needs to foster water-cooler conversation. You need people to go to work and say, `Did you hear what Franken said yesterday?' "

 

"When people begin to say that," he added, "we will have arrived."

 

Beyond the satiric, sometimes sophomoric humor displayed during the dress rehearsal for "The Majority Report," which Mr. Seder shares with the comedian Janeane Garofalo, Air America plans to offer a mixture of issue-oriented interviews (with conservatives, as well as liberals), commentary, listener phone calls and news reports, delivered straight, at regular intervals.

 

But this liberal radio network faces numerous obstacles in capturing a substantial audience, in particular finding a critical mass of stations that will broadcast its voices. The network has already fallen behind in its initial goal, announced last year, of owning five stations by the time it went on the air. As of today it owns none.

 

Instead Air America has bought programming time on stations with moderately strong signals, but previously low ratings: WLIB-AM in New York, WNTD-AM in Chicago, KBLA-AM in Los Angeles, KCAA-AM in Riverside and San Bernadino, Calif., and KPOJ-AM in Portland, Ore. A San Francisco station is expected to be announced in early April.

 

By contrast Rush Limbaugh, whom Air America has identified as a chief competitor, is heard on more than 600 stations, including WABC in New York. Sean Hannity, another conservative talk-show host, has a similar reach.

 

Air America, which has raised more than $20 million, has grand plans for buying stations, or at least all of the broadcast time on stations, in more than a dozen cities by year's end. Many are in Ohio, Florida and other states considered battlegrounds in the presidential election. But since the media ownership rules were eased in the mid-1990's, much of the broadcast spectrum is owned by a handful of companies. Few stations are for sale, and few station owners will give over all of their broadcast day to untested programming.

 

Then there is the question in radio and conservative circles whether liberals can be entertaining enough for talk radio.

 

"Sometimes they just sound so grim," said Neal Boortz, a libertarian whose Atlanta-based program is syndicated to more than 180 stations. "My god, the foreboding."

 

Mr. Sinton said Air America needed to be wary of that tendency.

 

"The problem with really wonkish policy discussion is that it does not attract or hold a mass audience," he said.

 

As a result the network's 17-hour weekday lineup has as much if not more in common with "Saturday Night Live" than with National Public Radio. For example, its midmorning show, which begins tomorrow at 9, will have as its hosts Lizz Winstead, a comedian and a creator of "The Daily Show" on Comedy Central, and Chuck D, the frontman for the rap group Public Enemy.

 

They will be followed at noon by Mr. Franken, the "Saturday Night Live" alumnus who has evolved into a satirist, and whose co-host is Katherine Lanpher from Minnesota Public Radio. Martin Kaplan, a communications professor at the University of Southern California, will be the host of a one-hour show about the news media in the early evening.

 

He will be followed, from 8 to 11 p.m., by Ms. Garofalo, whose main experience in radio was playing the role of a talk-show host for pet owners in the 1996 film "The Truth About Cats and Dogs," and by Mr. Seder, who has worked as a comedian, screenwriter and filmmaker.

 

There were times on Thursday during the three-hour run-through, which was recorded with the expectation of using portions of it on actual shows, that Ms. Garofalo, 39, and Mr. Seder, 37, sounded — surprisingly — not unlike their right-leaning competition.

 

In an interview with Craig Crawford, a columnist for Congressional Quarterly, the two hosts spent several minutes clobbering the news media, a favorite target of Mr. Limbaugh and Mr. Hannity.

 

"It seems the journalists have really put themselves in the center of the story in a partisan political way," Ms. Garofalo said, speaking of what she called a new form of participatory journalism. Moments later Mr. Seder observed, "Really, most reporters are whores."

 

And yet the content of most of the program sounded nothing like the fare provided by Mr. Limbaugh and Mr. Hannity. Those two popular hosts can usually be counted on to defend President Bush — Mr. Hannity's Web site declares that he is "fed up with all the Bush-bashing" — and whose favorite punching bags include the president's presumed Democratic rival, Senator John Kerry. ("Kerry injured changing positions," Mr. Limbaugh's Web site declared.)

 

Among others, Ms. Garofalo and Mr. Seder poked fun at Mr. Bush's former spokesman Ari Fleischer ("Is he not shoveling coal in hell now?" Mr. Seder asked ROFLMAO2004); Karl Rove, the president's senior adviser and political strategist (said by Ms. Garofalo to be pursuing "the elusive 18-25 Klan demo" OMGLOLLOLLOL); and Vice President Dick Cheney. (Mr. Seder said he felt sure that he could see Mr. Cheney's hand moving Mr. Bush's mouth on "Meet the Press" earlier this year.ROFLMAOLOLOLOLOLOL)

 

Ms. Garofalo said that "The Majority Report," its name inspired by a reference to Al Gore's presidential victory in the popular vote in the 2000 election, would also feature substantive interviews. Among the invited guests, she said, are Ben Cohen (the activist founder of Ben & Jerry's ice cream), Dr. Joyce Riley (an advocate of Persian Gulf war veterans) and Howard Dean. (Ms. Garofalo was in the audience on the night of the Iowa caucus, before he gave what she described as his "so-called `I have a scream' speech."That's GOLD Jerry, GOLD!)

 

"It's not like we're here to say we're going to be as nasty as right-wingers," Ms. Garofalo said in an interview. "On the left, traditionally, you've got a nicer type of person. You've got a person who is more willing to engage in conversations that have context and nuance, who tend to have more educable minds."

 

Whether all of these elements can be brought together to make great radio remains an open question. Kipper McGee, the program director of WDBO-AM (580) in Orlando, Fla., which is owned by Cox Communications and carries Mr. Hannity's syndicated program, said that Air America could count on listeners from all bands of the political spectrum, at least early on.

 

"The old adage, `Keep your friends close and your enemies closer,' sometimes it's true with the remote control or the radio tuner," said Mr. McGee, who has worked in radio for three decades. "In the final analysis, though, whether they survive depends on how good the shows are."

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Rush did it as a joke.

              -=Mike

Yes, but it meant people were listening to him.

Yeah, Rush has tons of listeners.

 

And she's mocking Fox for not being unbiased?

-=Mike

...Yup, Boeing only sells weapon systems

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"It's not like we're here to say we're going to be as nasty as right-wingers," Ms. Garofalo said in an interview. "On the left, traditionally, you've got a nicer type of person. You've got a person who is more willing to engage in conversations that have context and nuance, who tend to have more educable minds."

Clearly, Janeane isn't listening.

-=Mike

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I'm convinced this woman is drunk. Plastered (what?). Hammered (what?). Smashed (what?). Shitfaced. She keeps akwardly laughing after every sentence. Maybe it's something else...I guess Franken left something behind in the studio...

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"CRAIG DID YOU KNOW I WORKED FOR JIMMY CARTER!?!?!?"

"Well...."

"COMEON GET TO THE QUESTION DID YOU KNOW I WORKED FOR TIP ONEILL?!?!"

"Well, Chris..."

"COME ON YOU NEED TO READ YOUR HISTORY BOOK!!! DID YOU KNOW THAT JOHN KERRY IS A BIG CATHOLIC AND HAS ONLY SEEN THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST TWICE?!!?!"

(Hardball closing theme)

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These people are angry nuts with their own version of reality. This is gold for conservatives. Better than 10 versions of Rush Limbaugh. ROFLMAO listening.

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I'm convinced this woman is drunk. Plastered (what?). Hammered (what?). Smashed (what?). Shitfaced. She keeps akwardly laughing after every sentence. Maybe it's something else...I guess Franken left something behind in the studio...

Well, Gore DID buy a news station. She gave us some news.

 

And she's done this for 10 years? I pity her audience.

-=Mike

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Well, that Chris Matthews imitation was absolute gold but now it's been pretty dull :mellow: Now he's talking about athletes making racist statements.

 

I think I'm going to try and find some music on this thing, somehow. See if it's really worth paying for. I'll be back when Garafolo comes on.

 

 

UPDATE oh crap I turned on a trucker's talk station. I quote: "How wide 'dat res'room doh'?"

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I'm convinced this woman is drunk. Plastered (what?). Hammered (what?). Smashed (what?). Shitfaced. She keeps akwardly laughing after every sentence. Maybe it's something else...I guess Franken left something behind in the studio...

Well, Gore DID buy a news station. She gave us some news.

 

And she's done this for 10 years? I pity her audience.

-=Mike

lol she's blabbing on and on, and then says "hello?" and realizes that the caller is gone and she been talking to no one. Then she gets another caller and that caller gets cut off or disconnected. This should be fun...

The next caller doesn't know who she is. This is like an SNL parody. She keeps kvetching that they don't mention her name in the promos and this old woman is rambling on about not knowing who she is...this is great...

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Sounds like this isn't as good as her Crossfire appearances last year. Maybe she does neat a rightie to play the Colmes to her Hannity. I'll find out in 30 min when she comes on.

 

Meanwhile, Cap'n we have found the music! Nothing I can listen to though. I guess I'll be eating lunch to the sounds of "Hey Man Nice Shot."

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is this supposed to appeal to anyone besides liberals or is this just a way for Bush-bashers to bash Bush on a permenant basis?

Is Rush supposed to appeal to anyone besides conservatives and was his TV show just a way for Clinton-bashers to bash Clinton on a regular basis?

As far as I know Rush wasn't part of a huge grab of the radio airwaves by Conservatives, he started his show independent of any great "movement" like Franken's. If I'm wrong on that let me know.

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"On the left, traditionally, you've got a nicer type of person. You've got a person who is more willing to engage in conversations that have context and nuance, who tend to have more educable minds."

 

In the last few weeks, I've been dealing with Sierra Club and PIRG activists non-stop on deer population and over forestry among other things. Just based on them, if Garafalo truely believes this she must live on that 10th planet they discovered a while back.

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Oh crap. Scultz takes up the whole timeslot. Is this woman you're talking about Garafolo, Slapnuts? I won't hear her until 5PM appearantly.

 

I wanted to hear this stuff, too.

 

 

Going to try the netstream.... Aaand RealAlternative won't play it.

 

 

Update 2!!!: Judging by the schedule, this isn't Garafolo. This is some woman called Randi Rhodes. Uh, okay. At least I'm not missing something. Garafolo's live at 5 Pacific.

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Did anyone tell any of these people how to run a radio show?

Nah, cause if they fail it will be the fault of Hitler-Bush crushing dissent by abusing and controling the FCC.

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Yup. Randi Rhodes. I couldn't take her, had to turn it off and give it a break.

 

And that's a great point that people like Rush and Oreilly started out just giving their independent opinions that people caught on to, and they happened to be conservative views. This feels like a government instituted propogandist netowork...like YOU WILL LISTEN TO OUR VIEWS.

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Well, to be honest, you bitching about this is like me bitching about Hannity. The point may be valid, but the opinion is predictible.

 

I'm only going to get the opening hour of Garafolo because this radio goes back at 6, but I imagine if I got this on regular airwaves that I wouldn't mind making Franken my new morning show. He's gotta have better conversations than what I heard of that last hour, though.

 

I'm curious how bad Rhodes' first "Best of" weekend show will sound, though.

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Oh good God. My better half has a local news broadcast on and the anchor babe just said the following:

 

"Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have some new competition from a new liberal talk radio station. You may not hear yet in Pittsburgh, but you will be hearing a lot about it."

 

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

Oh, and two other things about this "news" piece.

 

1) She called O'Reilly a conservative and lumped him in with Rush, which shoots down any credibilty a person has with me when talking about Bill. You can diss O'Reilly all you want, say that he's harder on Dems than Republicans, but to put him side-by-side with Limbaugh is like Howard Stern saying Michael Savage is "pro-Bush."

 

2) She forgot to mention that the Democrat Party is funding this.

 

In addition I also saw the entire bit the "Today Show" had on Ed Schultz. Nice puff piece there, NBC.

 

I'm shocked beyond all belief regarding the media coverage of the OMG HOTAIR AMERICA LOL2004!...

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Did anyone tell any of these people how to run a radio show?

No. And here's why, I found out from another liberal show:

 

They're trying to bring in guys who haven't done radio. That's why all the shows have 2 or 3 hosts. You have your comedian, your policy wonk, and sometimes one person with radio experience who keeps the show moving along.

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