Guest Contentious C Report post Posted April 23, 2004 http://thesmartmarks.com/artman/publish/article_1415.shtml Is this for real? Anyone? Bueller?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted April 23, 2004 yeah he hates this place alright, he's banned from these forums for some unflattering comments he made to Dames concerning 9/11. That said, Chris Coey is also an awesome reviewer and although we aren't too fond of each other, I'll still give him props for his reviews. Of course I'm sure his Round Robin Challenge review will make him really popular with some RoH marks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted April 23, 2004 I enjoy his reviews but he can stay the hell away from the boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted April 23, 2004 I enjoy his reviews but he can stay the hell away from the boards. ditto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2004 This guy was Jubuki? Or am I thinking of something else? Kinda odd that he'd be allowed onto any part of TSM, regardless of the forums... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2004 I was the one who asked him if he would like to contribute the CRUN-CH to TSM. He's still banned from the message board and has agreed that it would be best if he'd not post here to make this deal work out. No one here is going to see themselves get reamed in one of his articles as that has never been Chris's style with the CRUN-CH as well as being a disservice to the reviews. He has attacked the site before but that's water underneath the bridge. The goal of the main site is to acquire the best writers around. Chris happens to be one of the best wrestling reviews online today. So I thought it was only natural to give his work a different type of exposure than what he would get if his reviews were only posted on his site. I know that a lot of you have some bad blood with Chris but it's his work that has come to TSM, not his attitude. Hopefully more people will read his work now since Chris really is one of the best guys I've ever seen review a wrestling match in my near 10 years of being online. Welcome aboard Chris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 24, 2004 Somehow, this isn't surprising. The reaction, that is. But hey, if nobody likes him as a person, just complain about it till he's gone - wouldn't want anyone talking about wrestling on a wrestling website, would we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted April 24, 2004 Hell Ricky, Chris and I aren't exactly buddies and we probably never will be. But even I can respect his writing, and say he's THE best reviewer online today, not just Puroresu, but of anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 24, 2004 That's sort of my point. There are a couple of threads (one here, one in Feedback) where the regulars are grousing about his presence, but it should probably tell them something that he was talked into doing this despite the situation he left under. The people who are wrestling fans get won over by what he writes. Dealing with him one on one...meh, you halve to sort of weather the storm until he's tired of bitching, and then most of the time he becomes OK with you if you don't go out of your way to say things he'd disagree with. That's probably why you keep turning into his whipping boy, haha... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Contentious C Report post Posted April 24, 2004 I think it says plenty that most of the posters doing the grumbling over his writing for the site don't know their ass from their elbow when it comes to wrestling in the first place. Most of them seem more concerned photoshoping clever banners to paste in their signatures, or forming their own internet stable so they can "win" the massive flame wars that take place in the No Holds Barred folder. That said, I don't think any of Chris's writing is going to heighten the level of discourse around here, and anyone with any interest in reading his "deeper" analysis of matches has probably stumbled onto his site by now anyway. More likely, most of the readers of the main page want the SKeith brand of reviewing, ie: bad jokes followed by two sentances discussing the match's quality followed by some snow flakes. I guess that some of them might see value in Chris's writing and start checking it out, but I'm guessing short attention spans will win out in the end. I guess you can't blame Sass for trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 24, 2004 He's an excellent reviewer but I think it sends a negative message to other previously banned posters. "Hey you can be a total jerk and get banned but if we want something from you than it's a.o.k." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 24, 2004 How many PBPs had ANYTHING to add anywhere? Even just as posters? Ask that question before thinking of the precedent it sets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 24, 2004 How many PBPs had ANYTHING to add anywhere? Even just as posters? Ask that question before thinking of the precedent it sets. Eagan had cool music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 24, 2004 Oh and to guys like Tom Collins who are getting all uppity because we don't like Chris, even though he's a good reviewer: Welcome to the real world, where knowing a lot about Pro Wrestling doesn't excuse you for being an absolutely worthless human being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Contentious C Report post Posted April 24, 2004 Oh and to guys like Tom Collins who are getting all uppity because we don't like Chris, even though he's a good reviewer: Welcome to the real world, where knowing a lot about Pro Wrestling doesn't excuse you for being an absolutely worthless human being. I don't think TSM, or any other internet message board, reflects what "the real world" is like. You'd be kidding yourself to think so. This web site is primarily dedicated to wrestling, right? Is it really that much of a detriment to the site to have a writer with a decent grasp of its subject matter? He's still not allowed to post here, so most of the problems he has with people around here will remain water under the bridge. Last I checked, a ban only stops someone from posting on the boards, not submiting work to the main page. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 24, 2004 Did someone write the Rules of the Internet while I was asleep? Does one of them say, "a persons behavior online is a 100% truthful and accurate reflection of their real selves"? I think I missed that somewhere, Zsasz. Welcome to the Real World, where knowing alot about James Bond and Batman doesn't prevent you from talking out of your ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 24, 2004 Oh and to guys like Tom Collins who are getting all uppity because we don't like Chris, even though he's a good reviewer: Welcome to the real world, where knowing a lot about Pro Wrestling doesn't excuse you for being an absolutely worthless human being. I don't think TSM, or any other internet message board, reflects what "the real world" is like. You'd be kidding yourself to think so. This web site is primarily dedicated to wrestling, right? Is it really that much of a detriment to the site to have a writer with a decent grasp of its subject matter? He's still not allowed to post here, so most of the problems he has with people around here will remain water under the bridge. Last I checked, a ban only stops someone from posting on the boards, not submiting work to the main page. The way we're acting is a lot closer to reality then you. Try saying something like the 9/11 comments CTC made to a person and the street and not getting your teeth kicked in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Try saying something like the 9/11 comments CTC made to a person and the street and not getting your teeth kicked in. I'd have to think that calling someone a 'worthless human being' would stand a good chance of bringing about the same outcome. Maybe you should keep that in mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Psycho Diablo 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 My only complaint about it is that the formatting on that article is different from everything else on the site. It makes it look kind of strange, personally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 25, 2004 From what I can gather, it's similar to the formating he has on his site. I'd bet he meant for it to stand out in that way. It looks cleaner to me - the text is a little bigger, and it's in a serif font, which makes it easier to read. I suppose it depends where you have your text size set, though. Mine is on 'smaller' and it looks fine to me. I find the huge blocks of Arial text hard to read (read his and then read Corey's last TNA report, for example). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted April 25, 2004 If anyone has a beef with Chris writing columns for TSM, then there is a really simple solution......DON'T READ HIS COLUMNS. Whatever anyone may personally think of him, the fact remains that he is one of the best reviewers online and that's why Sass brought him in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Ah, the old 'if you dont like it, don't read it' line...what was I saying about brush fires, Mike? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted April 25, 2004 He's an excellent reviewer but I think it sends a negative message to other previously banned posters. "Hey you can be a total jerk and get banned but if we want something from you than it's a.o.k." This isn't the first time this has happened. A similar situation happened when CJ was a writer for the site. He was banned from the board but is still able to write articles for the main page. The situation is slightly different but being a writer doesn't make you exempt from the rules of the board and being banned from the board doesn't make you exempt from being a writer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 25, 2004 I remember the CJ situation well since I actively tried to get him unbanned at severl points. The difference though is that Coey is hated by the vast majority of people here whereas most people don't even remember CJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 I remember the CJ situation well since I actively tried to get him unbanned at severl points. The difference though is that Coey is hated by the vast majority of people here whereas most people don't even remember CJ. Burn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Contentious C Report post Posted April 25, 2004 I remember the CJ situation well since I actively tried to get him unbanned at severl points. The difference though is that Coey is hated by the vast majority of people here whereas most people don't even remember CJ. Does "degree of hatred" really matter in this case? It's already been established that someone can write for the main page while being banned from the message board. If that policy is going to stand, then the opinions of the message board posters doesn't hold any weight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2004 The policy of thesmartmarks has always seemed to be that the two (messageboard and main site) are seperate. In most cases, a messageboard is just an attachment to a site...but in our case, the board came first...and the site was started as a seperate project. For example...you can be fired as a writer on the site...but that doesn't mean you will be banned from the board. Given that the two are seperate...why should someone banned not be allowed to write for the site? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2004 *wonders what Dames thinks of all this* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 26, 2004 Already explained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 26, 2004 I remember the CJ situation well since I actively tried to get him unbanned at severl points. The difference though is that Coey is hated by the vast majority of people here whereas most people don't even remember CJ. Does "degree of hatred" really matter in this case? It's already been established that someone can write for the main page while being banned from the message board. If that policy is going to stand, then the opinions of the message board posters doesn't hold any weight. Sorry Jubaki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
