Official PRIDE GP 2004 Thread

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I read them because I had no intention of buying this show.

 

Then after I read them...I wanted to see it.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I read them because I had no intention of buying this show.

 

Then after I read them...I wanted to see it.

You had no intention of buying the show because you're a tool.

 

This is easily one of those "Must-buy" shows, the spoilers only proved that. There's a reason to see every match on this show, especially Silva-Sentoryu.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I read them because I had no intention of buying this show.

 

Then after I read them...I wanted to see it.

You had no intention of buying the show because you're a tool.

 

This is easily one of those "Must-buy" shows, the spoilers only proved that. There's a reason to see every match on this show, especially Silva-Sentoryu.

Maybe it was the two straight months of Meltzer putting the show down and half a joke, followed by there not being a card until like two days ago that did't breed confidence.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I read them because I had no intention of buying this show.

 

Then after I read them...I wanted to see it.

You had no intention of buying the show because you're a tool.

 

This is easily one of those "Must-buy" shows, the spoilers only proved that. There's a reason to see every match on this show, especially Silva-Sentoryu.

Maybe it was the two straight months of Meltzer putting the show down and half a joke, followed by there not being a card until like two days ago that did't breed confidence.

I was kidding really, no finalized card until a week into the show would scare many off, but than you ignore the fact that PRIDE has been doing that for ages.

[the pinjockey 0]

Spoilers if you haven't read/seen it. And I am not putting everything in those tags, too much red.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I thought this was a really good show.

 

Coleman/Fedor - I thought Coleman had him when they were stuck in the corner, but Fedor made a great escape.

 

Nog/Yokoi - This was a great fight. Very competitive round 1 with Nog trying everything and Yokoi escaping. And a SWEET fucking submission in round 2. That was fucking awesome.

 

Randleman/CroCop - HO-LEE FUCKING SHIT! That was ridiculous, especially considering the terrible performance against Sak at Final Conflict.

 

Leko/Ogawa - Eh. I'll have to watch the tape to see if Leko slipped or if Ogawa caught him and knocked him down. After that they should have just called it and saved the minute.

 

Silva/Sentoryu - I am disappointed as Sentoryu was supposed to represent us fat folk. How the hell did he get so gassed just sitting in Silva's guard? And even I, a fan for all of 9 months now, would think to roll through like Quinton Jackson in Jackson/Illkouhine (sic).

 

Kharatonov/Ninja - Well we can obviously see how Ninja made weight. I wonder if Sergei is that good or if Ninja was just really bad tonight.

 

Herring/Takahashi - This was just your basic Vov/Inoue ass whomping, but those are nice and entertaining.

 

One final though, I want this announcer douchebag gone. I know PRIDE is good, you don't have to tell me every 5 god damn seconds. WE SIGNED STEFAN LEKO!!!! PRIDE GOOD!!!! OMGWTF?!?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

HOLY FUCKING CRUD~!!!

 

I am exhausted. After the Randleman thing, my blood was PUMPING. I freaked out. FREAKED OUT. That was fucking INSANE. INSANE. When Fedor slipped that armbar on the following happened:

 

*Jumps up from couch*

 

"Yeah baby, YEAH BABY! YEAH you like that? You like that?*

 

*Begins to mock-doggy style the TV screen*

 

"Yeeah, that's what I'm talkin bout. Yeah."

 

*Thrusts harder, and with each thrust..*

 

"Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."

 

That's right, this show drove me to become a porn actor - it drove me porn. That's the new standard for enjoyment - if it has you humping the screen, it's a fucking awesome show.

 

- Herring's GnP was SICK. Didn't Yoshiki know that you can BLOCK? The sight of him out cold had me scared.

 

- Sergei is the REAL FUCKING DEAL. I'd hate myself for underestimating him if that wasn't such a sweet performance. Clearly, the size disadvantage for Ninja is what lost him this fight. He was really hesistant. Those body blows were SICK. SICK. We have a dark horse to win this whole thing.

 

- Did I see Silva win with a Key lock? The fuck? Horrible performance by Sentoryu as he looked clueless in the ring. When GIANT SILVA outclasses you, there's a problem.

 

- Schilt/McGee, worst fight on the card and it wasn't even that bad. McGee did nothing with what he had and he could have gone for an armbar cause Semmy GAVE HIM IT. Semmy goes on cause he took what he got. Dumb dumb McGee

 

Leko/Ogawa - OGAWA KO'S LEKO?~!?!?!??!??? WHAT WAS THAT?! That would have been the surprise of the night if it weren't for Randleman. I completely underestimated Ogawa and overestimated Leko (which I knew I was!), but never in my wildest dreams would I have figured that.

 

Cro Cop/Randleman - WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!!!!??!

 

Nogueira/Yokoi - fight of the night; constant action with a very game Yokoi. Had me on the edge of my seat the entire time and that last fight proved to me that anything could happen, so when Yokoi was throwing Nog down and punching him I was about to freak. Stunning, STUNNINGLY beautiful sub at the end.

 

Fedor/Coleman:

 

"Oh fuck. Oh fuck. Oh fuck. Oh fuck. Oh god. Oh god. Oh god no."

 

Thats me at the beginning and throughout the fight because THEY SHOWED COLEMANS ENTRANCE! I believe every fighters' entrance that was shown had that fighter winning, so I was almost CRYING when Fedor didn't get his. I'm sorry? What's this about Fedors submissions? Say it with me now...

 

EMELIANEKOWNED~!

 

A thing of poetry that was.

 

Overall: Great show, had me bouncing around, I DIDN'T READ THE SPOILERS cause I ain't dumb like you folk. I read spoilers for just about everything, from the end of books to tv to wrestling, but I learned that MMA is SOOOOOO much better without reading the spoilers.

 

My review should be coming up soon, if anyone wants to contribute gimmie a holla - [email protected] or PM

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I thought Mauro did a really good job tonight - I just found the "PRIDE is the best company in the world!" stuff funny - but then again, I liked Damon the Dog. I miss Quadros, but I liked Ranallo; maybe that's because I'm used to WWE commentators so anyone that's competent is fantastic in my mind

 

Plus, I was marking every time he said "cut kick", which was his trademark in the XFC Muay Thai fights.

[the pinjockey 0]

What do you think we are looking at for round 2?

 

Schilt/Silva seems obvious. And I would imagine the will keep Fedor and Nog away from each other until the finals since CroCop is out. And I don't see them putting Ogawa against either of them since he is their Japanese draw.

 

Predictions:

Schilt/Silva - Battle of the Giants v2.0

Ogawa/Randleman - Randleman looked pretty clueless on the ground against Sak. So this is probably Ogawa's best draw.

Fedor/Kharitonov - can't have two Russians in the final four

Nog/Herring - Pride 17 rematch? Even if Herring has slipped, I'm there

[Guest neodragonsan]

What do you think we are looking at for round 2?

 

Schilt/Silva seems obvious. And I would imagine the will keep Fedor and Nog away from each other until the finals since CroCop is out. And I don't see them putting Ogawa against either of them since he is their Japanese draw.

 

Predictions:

Schilt/Silva - Battle of the Giants v2.0

Ogawa/Randleman - Randleman looked pretty clueless on the ground against Sak. So this is probably Ogawa's best draw.

Fedor/Kharitonov - can't have two Russians in the final four

Nog/Herring - Pride 17 rematch? Even if Herring has slipped, I'm there

It's also possible that they will give Ogawa the least skilled of the fighters, in Giant Silva, and let Randleman face off against Semmy.

 

Sergei v. Fedor would be awesome, RTT vs. ex-RTT...

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I ordered the replay.

 

Since my two favorite fighters got KOed hard last year (Sakuraba and Vovchanchyn) I've been searching for a new fighter to call my favorite.

 

Sergei Kharatonov made a good case to be my guy today.

 

Two fights in...and both were great.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I'm lookin at:

 

Schilt/Silva

Herring/Noguiera

Sergei/Ogawa

Fedor/Randleman

 

HOWEVER- i hear talk of Nog wanting Ogawa or vice-versa, so

 

Herring/Sergei

Nog/Og

 

could definitely happen.

[the pinjockey 0]

At least it won't be three days before the event when we know what is going on for the next event.

 

We know:

4 tourney fights

Sak/?

Mark Hunt/?

 

So that only leaves 2 or 3 more fights max for them to set up. I would imagine CroCop is going to want to fight someone, since he seems to fight on every card and is certainly going to be looking for a win.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Hunt is probably pissing himself after seeing Cro Cop and Leko get owned by Randleman and Ogawa.

[the pinjockey 0]

I was thinking after tonight that PRIDE feeds him someone in June. Just get a punching bag in there with a weak chin and build a star. Unless they just want to give a big fuck you to K-1 and continue the destruction of the kickboxers.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

DOWN GOES CROCOP!!!! DOWN GOES CROCOP!!!!

 

*still watching replay*

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Was anyone else really REALLY impressed with Herrings GnP? I mean, those were some HARD shots that I didn't think he was capable of.

 

Oh and..

 

 

*jumps on Sergei bandwagon*

[the pinjockey 0]

*watches Sergei bandwagon pass by*

 

Eh, Sergei had a nice size advantage and Murilo looked like he was trying to perfect his Ricco Rodriguez look tonight. If he wins next round I'll jump on.

 

I was impressed as hell with Herring's GnP. Like I said above that match reminded me of Vov/Inoue in the sheer ground and pound ass whomping goodness.

 

 

 

 

 

*already regrets not jumping on Sergei bandwagon and chases after it hoping it slows back down*

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Though I agree that Ninjas performance left something to be desired, Sergeis bodyshots were amazing. I don't think I have seen body shots that good in PRIDE, standing. He picked him apart. He made good use of the size advantage and I can't wait to see him fight next.

 

Of course, FEDOR is still my favourite, and after tonight, I can't see anybody beating him. The question of "What if he gets on his back?" was answered tonight. That answer was "HE FUCKING OWNS YOU". I still can't believe he pulled that off. You have no idea how worried I was.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

If Sakuraba is going to fight in June, I'd like to see him face Dan Henderson. I've kind of wanted to see that for a while.

[Brush with Greatness 0]

Fucking P3 cards (Not mine but my friends). Caused me to not be able to see the show. Looks like the P3's are getting fazed out in favour of the P4's.

 

Anyways, what is the schedule for the rest of the tourney.

 

Quarterfinals - ????

 

Semi's and Finals - ?????

 

Any dates, or confirmation that that is indeed the way they are doing it.

[Guest NCJ]

With Randleman destroying Crocop in such quick and devestating fashion who would be interested in seeing him in a rematch with Liddell, or finally fighting Ortiz, Couture, or Silva. I'm not saying that one fight instantly makes Randelman better, but you must admit that was extremely impressive. Randelman has always had all the physical tools in the world to be the best. He is incredibly fast, freakishly strong, has one of the best wrestling bases in all of mma, and as he showed again against Crocop has legit knockout power in his hands. If he could get his head on straight and fight with a purpose I could definately see him winning some of those fights.

[Guest Fear]

Hunt is probably pissing himself after seeing Cro Cop and Leko get owned by Randleman and Ogawa.

 

Nah, not at all. The chances of Hunt being KO'd by, oh, ANYONE ON THE PLANET are 0%.

 

He'll get subbed in a heartbeat. But nothing less than a fucking train can KO the man, his chin is bullet proof steel.

[the pinjockey 0]

Ok, I have watched it again and am jumping on the Sergei bandwagon, because I want as many chances as possible to hear his entrance music. His entrance kicks all kinds of ass.

[Lei Tong 0]

Thoughts:

 

Herring/Takahashi: Herring is still in trouble vs. most of the more skilled guys in the tournament, and the Takahashi fight did little to change my mind about that. Herring FINALLY did what he was supposed to when given a slightly less skilled and significantly smaller fighter, yet not before Takahashi gave him some knocks.

 

Kharitonov/Rua: After years of watching Chute Boxe fighters being the bigger men... HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!111177777 But seriously, it wasn't JUST the size that made this for Sergei. He took some really good shots from Ninja, so he obviously has a beard, and his balance(although his size had something to do with it) was insane, as Ninja with all his might couldn't budge him an inch from the bodylock before getting ragdolled with the hipthrow.

 

Giant Silva vs. Sentoryu: Poor Sentoryu. Even after getting Silva, the body size difference wouldn't even allow him to g&P Silva's head. At least he knew to get to sidemount, but apparently his own girth wouldn't allow him to use knees, go to mount, or even MOVE HIS FREAKING ARM. Props to Silva for his tenacity, though. He pulled a sub Kevin Randleman still hasn't gotten after 8 years of MMA training.

 

Semmy Schilt vs. Gan McGee: McGee gets a takedown and mount yet can't do anything with it? Talk about deja vu. Although, with Schilt's long ass arms, he is a tough bastard to finish even once put on his back, but still, proportions, baby. As for Schilt's added girth, it didn't seem to bother him much on th ground, but I didn't see how it affected his striking, so stil lusnure wether it's totally a good thing.

 

Ogawa/Leko: Getting knockdown by a guy who's favorite method of closing the distance is running in with both arms out and his head turned to the side has got to be pretty embarassing. Although, Ogawa does have quite a reach, and the shot he landed only knocked Leko off balance. However, once on the ground, it was a foregone conclusion, although Ogawa's ground game didn't look quite as sharp as I'd hope for from a Judo Silver medalist agaisnt a pure kickboxer.

 

Randleman/Filipovic: As was mentioned on UFC, Mirko should probably stay away from black guys w/blonde hair. First McDonald, then Randleman. Look out for Sisqo next. Randleman finally showed some of that potential hes been sitting on for nigh a decade, but I don't think this'll be a true turnaround for the guy.

 

Noguiera/ Yokoi:Yokoi was good enough at avoiding Nog's submissions, but Nog was smart, and slowly wore him down with his sub attemepts and superior striking, not overexerting himself and waiting for pudgeboy to gas out. I'm glad Takahashi & Yokoi did well for themselves, but a loss for both isn't mcuh of a suprise.

 

Fedor/Coleman: For a second there, I thoguht I was watching Fedor/Arona II. Fedor is a bit lucky in the fact that the two guys who were good enough wrestlers to put him down and get his back, aren't known for their submission skills. However, big props to Fedor for escaping, and the armbar, although a bit loopy, was quite good and obviously enoguh to finish off the discouraged/ tired Coleman. Also, me and a few guys I know actually felt bad for Mark after the fight: having been there myself, a loss is always hard enough (Yokoi let out some tears after lossing to Nog), but to have the best fighter in the world's back and have quite possibly the biggest last hurrah in MMA slip away has GOT to be tough.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

 

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Fedor/Coleman: For a second there, I thoguht I was watching Fedor/Arona II. Fedor is a bit lucky in the fact that the two guys who were good enough wrestlers to put him down and get his back, aren't known for their submission skills. However, big props to Fedor for escaping, and the armbar, although a bit loopy, was quite good and obviously enoguh to finish off the discouraged/ tired Coleman. Also, me and a few guys I know actually felt bad for Mark after the fight: having been there myself, a loss is always hard enough (Yokoi let out some tears after lossing to Nog), but to have the best fighter in the world's back and have quite possibly the biggest last hurrah in MMA slip away has GOT to be tough.

Isn't Arona like a master submissions guy or something? I know he wins most of his matches by decision, but the skills are there. He's got a black belt in BJJ and is what I think the next wave of guys will be; great wrestlers who know how to submit people.

[Guest Fear]

As was mentioned on UFC, Mirko should probably stay away from black guys w/blonde hair. First McDonald, then Randleman. Look out for Sisqo next.

 

Is Cro Cop fast enough to stop/avoid Sisqo's cartwheel/flip kick?

[Guest neodragonsan]

[Nah, not at all. The chances of Hunt being KO'd by, oh, ANYONE ON THE PLANET are 0%.

What about Tyson? Let's be honest, Tyson has killer power...

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

Tyson would get killed in MMA.

 

One low kick and he's running.

 

One takedown and he's tapping.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Cro Cop, someone who has been training in MMA for what, 2 years now? has just gotten owned and has 2 losses in the last 6 months. Leko, someone who is probably in a similar position to Hunt, got beat in his first match. Unless they Cro Cop him (ie: modify rules and/or give him easy fights to win), Hunt is fucked. As is this K-1 dynasty they're attempting to build.