Guest MikeSC Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 I've got no problem with this, but then again I don't live next door to the loudspeaker that plays shouting in arabic. I'd interrupt their services with satanic music though, so it'd all end fair. Wouldn't the Dradle song or "Hava Nagila" be bad enough to drive them nuts? -=Mike
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 Dying Fetus' "One Shot One Kill" would work, too. It's a tribute to violence with a sort of counter-terrorism theme.
Guest MikeSC Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 Dying Fetus' "One Shot One Kill" would work, too. It's a tribute to violence with a sort of counter-terrorism theme. Personally, I'd just have "My Heart Goes On" on a constant loop and have a battle of endurance with them. -=Mike
Guest Goodear Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 This is not like church bells, this is like the proest getting on his microphone and shouting "Itssssssssssssssssss JESUS TIME!" five times a day for a minute at a time. I can certainly understand that being problematic to the rest of the community who are now all full of HATE and RACISM just becauise they don't agree with the practice. Hey, big ups to the Muslims though for checking it out before they went ahead with it. I don't blame them at all, I blame the community politicians who don't have the stones to go, "ehhh maybe not'.
Guest cobainwasmurdered Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 the real question is on how loud they'd be playing the message.
Guest MikeSC Posted April 27, 2004 Report Posted April 27, 2004 the real question is on how loud they'd be playing the message. If it's loud enough to remind Muslims to pray --- well, it won't be quiet. -=Mike
Kaertos Posted April 30, 2004 Report Posted April 30, 2004 Well here's the thing though: Council member Shahab Ahmed, a Bangladeshi, and the first Muslim elected to the body, said the council has strived to deal with it as a strictly civic matter. "It's not a religious issue." "The al-Islah mosque wasn't even required by law to approach us for permission. The mosque leaders were just trying to be good neighbors," he maintained. So legally, the people against it don't have a leg to stand on. If they pass a law that would make it illegal to do this, then that will open a very nasty can of worms about any sort of public address system in the community that can be heard outside a building.
Guest MikeSC Posted April 30, 2004 Report Posted April 30, 2004 Well here's the thing though: Council member Shahab Ahmed, a Bangladeshi, and the first Muslim elected to the body, said the council has strived to deal with it as a strictly civic matter. "It's not a religious issue." "The al-Islah mosque wasn't even required by law to approach us for permission. The mosque leaders were just trying to be good neighbors," he maintained. So legally, the people against it don't have a leg to stand on. If they pass a law that would make it illegal to do this, then that will open a very nasty can of worms about any sort of public address system in the community that can be heard outside a building. So be it. If the mosque used something musical, rather than a guy friggin' saying "Yo, moron, pray!" --- it'd be a different story. Again, I live in the Bible Belt and church bells are never heard down here. -=Mike
Kaertos Posted May 3, 2004 Report Posted May 3, 2004 Just out of curiosity, why would it be a different story? Is it because he is speaking Arabic?
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted May 3, 2004 Report Posted May 3, 2004 Again, I live in the Bible Belt and church bells are never heard down here. They're always playing here, it seems. Doesn't bother me, though, since I don't live in town exactly. Bars and Churches. That's my town. One on every corner.
Slayer Posted May 3, 2004 Report Posted May 3, 2004 Again, I live in the Bible Belt and church bells are never heard down here. They're always playing here, it seems. Doesn't bother me, though, since I don't live in town exactly. Bars and Churches. That's my town. One on every corner. And you've been to every single one
Guest MikeSC Posted May 3, 2004 Report Posted May 3, 2004 Just out of curiosity, why would it be a different story? Is it because he is speaking Arabic? It's probably because you can easily fairly easily argue that church bells are musical while Arabic calls to prayer don't tend to terribly melodic. They're always playing here, it seems. Doesn't bother me, though, since I don't live in town exactly. Bars and Churches. That's my town. One on every corner. Really? Where do you live? I find it amazing that the rest of the country seems to have this, but right here in Columbia, SC, I've so rarely heard a church bell that doing so would freak me out. -=Mike ...Of course, we have hellish heat in the summer to make up for that
kkktookmybabyaway Posted May 3, 2004 Author Report Posted May 3, 2004 I remember hearing church bells ringing in my hometown of Sharpsburg, Pa. I never heard them anywhere else -- and I've lived across the street from a church in Ohio and currently live in an area where there's like four churches a mile or so away...
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted May 3, 2004 Report Posted May 3, 2004 Really? Where do you live? I find it amazing that the rest of the country seems to have this, but right here in Columbia, SC, I've so rarely heard a church bell that doing so would freak me out. A hillbilly factory town in Northeastern Indiana.
Guest MikeSC Posted May 3, 2004 Report Posted May 3, 2004 Really? Where do you live? I find it amazing that the rest of the country seems to have this, but right here in Columbia, SC, I've so rarely heard a church bell that doing so would freak me out. A hillbilly factory town in Northeastern Indiana. You make it sound lovely. -=Mike
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted May 3, 2004 Report Posted May 3, 2004 As lovely a place can be that has a bar or a church on every streetcorner. If a muslim call to prayer were ever issued over a loudspeaker here, there would be a RATTLE of gunfire into the sky and streets. Tobacco would be spat.
Guest MikeSC Posted May 3, 2004 Report Posted May 3, 2004 As lovely a place can be that has a bar or a church on every streetcorner. If a muslim call to prayer were ever issued over a loudspeaker here, there would be a RATTLE of gunfire into the sky and streets. Tobacco would be spat. If it makes you feel better, I have TONS of cows, goats, and horses around where I live. And this isn't even really farmland. -=Mike
bobobrazil1984 Posted May 3, 2004 Report Posted May 3, 2004 It's probably because you can easily fairly easily argue that church bells are musical while Arabic calls to prayer don't tend to terribly melodic. Interestingly enough, they actually ARE rather melodic, depending on whose doing the call. The way it's called (not everywhere, but most places) if you didnt know it was a prayer call you might think it was arabic music. (i live near dearborn so I have heard it on occasion) It's beside the point, but just thought i'd mention that. Anyways, my older brother and I are thinking of doing a documentary on this, interviewing various people in Hamtramick to get thoughts on this(and trying to even get the mayor on camera)
Guest reshad974 Posted May 6, 2004 Report Posted May 6, 2004 here is the translation of the call to the prayer : Allah is great - Allah is great Allah is great - Allah is great I testify that there no other God outside Allah I testify that there no other God outside Allah I testify that Mohammad is the prophet of Allah I testify that Mohammad is the prophet of Allah Come to the prayer. Come to the prayer. Come towards success. Come towards success. There are no other God outside Allah
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