Guest glennsoe Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 On the WWE Parents website (http://parents.wwe.com/) they have a small tidbit about Eugene Dinsmore. Eugene Pursues His Dream In the tradition of some of the most endearing characters of some of the greatest movies ever made: Forrest Gump, I Am Sam, Radio, WWE has introduced a new character, Eugene Dinsmore. Eugene is a person with a mental disability. WWE intends to portray this character in a realistic fashion. Eugene is a benevolent, loving, enthusiastic character who will successfully overcome the odds and achieve his dream of becoming a WWE Superstar. * I guess they have gotten massive heat for this character and will adjust him soon, but i haven't really seen too much of him yet to say anything really...Has he had a televised match yet ?? Anyone have a clue as to which finishers he uses ??
The Ghost of bps21 Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Man...what they should do with Eugene is so obvious. He should walk around being the loveable mentaly handicapped guy...until the bell rings. From bell to bell he should just kill people. He should be a machine that just takes people apart.
The Ghost of bps21 Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 I'll take it further... just imagine Regal, horribly embarrased to be his manager before his first match. Then the match starts and Eugene is slaughtering some nobody...and Regal's facial expressions of shock and realization that he's got something. Then after the match, and in between his matches he could try to give him advice but Eugene is back to being mentally handicaped. Comedy GOLD. Also...anyone who listened to Raven on WOL the other week knows that he already solved the Eugene puzzle. The character will get stale sooner or later...and when it does Raven came up with how to turn him heel. You just have Dinsmore say he was never retarded, but was making fun of those people and had to pretend he was "special" just to get a shot. Then he goes back to killing people.
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 That is about as kayfabed as it is possible to get. You're right Brian - build him up to seem completely harmless, and then he gets in the ring, the crowd feel sorry for him, and BAM, he just goes apeshit, cleaning house on everyone (with ability). Oh, and I love that sig.
The Ghost of bps21 Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Thanks. About this time every year I like to put up a Madden picture of what my team's new first round picked player with a recent major knee injury looks like.
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Best. Graphics. Ever.
Mearl267 Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Best. Graphics. Ever. MLB 2004 is pretty damn solid in that area aswell. Anyways, anything I could add to this has already been stated, however, I can honestly say I like the charactor, and am not offended in the slightest.
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Are you mentally handicapped? And Milo owns.
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 I wasn't insulting, I was pointing out that you probably wouldn't be offended if you weren't mentally handicapped or related in some way to someone that was.
DangerousDamon Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 I wasn't insulting, I was pointing out that you probably wouldn't be offended if you weren't mentally handicapped or related in some way to someone that was. The Eugene thing doesn't really bother me too much. I have a mentally challenged friend just in case you were wondering.
Mearl267 Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 I wasn't insulting, I was pointing out that you probably wouldn't be offended if you weren't mentally handicapped or related in some way to someone that was. Uh, yeah...thanks captain obvious. Lay it down Nicky. ...and to tell you the truth, I have no idea what Milo is...this sig is from an old board I used to post at. Some Aussie made it for me.
The Czech Republic Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Easy on the insults there, -iB- Nik How does one become a moderator within days of registration?
haVoc Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 I would think the racism of the Bradshaw character, French people and even the Austin/Teddy Long angle would offend more people then the Eugene character.
Steviekick Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 I would think the racism of the Bradshaw character, French people and even the Austin/Teddy Long angle would offend more people then the Eugene character. Definitely. But give them time and they will go to far with Eugene.
Guest Dazed Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 How does one become a moderator within days of registration? You need to have a forum named after you first. Nik
The Czech Republic Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 How does one become a moderator within days of registration? You need to have a forum named after you first. Nik I have a freaking COUNTRY named after me. I should be like the ultra-admin
TheFranchise Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 How does one become a moderator within days of registration? You need to have a forum named after you first. Nik I have a freaking COUNTRY named after me. I should be like the ultra-admin Way to own a mod
TheFranchise Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 How does one become a moderator within days of registration? You need to have a forum named after you first. Nik I have a freaking COUNTRY named after me. I should be like the ultra-admin Way to own a mod I'm named after Shane Douglas. I should have a bar named after me.
Guest Dazed Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Anyway, dragging the thread back on-topic. WWE intends to portray this character in a realistic fashion. Utter crap. Eugene has been a comedy character from day one, and there has been no attempt to play it straight. William Regal and his facial expressions are always funny, the bushwhacker impersonation, and the staring at Gail Kim in her underwear... all of it was designed to elicit laughter, and JR & Lawler back this up by laughing along at him. Pathetic.
jester Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Never mind Eugene, do they really think "Radio" and "I Am Sam" are among the greatest movies ever made?!
Mecha Mummy Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 ... WWE considers RADIO to be one of the greatest movies of all time? *Sigh.*
haVoc Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Who cares? A handicap person gets portrayed as a comedy character! Oh no, that has never been done before in any form of entertainment!!! LET THE ANGLE PLAY OUT! Quit being a drama queen, Nikjohns.
The Czech Republic Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Consider this. The latest round of gimmicks is all outta whack. Bradshaw: Businessman Dinsmore: Retard Fertig: Relgious Dude Tomko: Generic Hoss It should be Tomko: Businessman Fertig: Retard Dinsmore: Relgious Dude Bradshaw: Generic Hoss
haVoc Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 It should be Tomko: Businessman You would do business with this? "Yes sir, I would like two of those Paris Hilton tapes, please!"
Guest Dazed Posted April 25, 2004 Report Posted April 25, 2004 Who cares? A handicap person gets portrayed as a comedy character! Oh no, that has never been done before in any form of entertainment!!! LET THE ANGLE PLAY OUT! Quit being a drama queen, Nikjohns. I don't have any problem with them portraying him as a comedy character - in fact, it's getting over quite well. It's just bogus that they do that, and then proclaim him to be some sort of inspiration to handicapped people.
Guest CronoT Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 I would think the racism of the Bradshaw character, French people and even the Austin/Teddy Long angle would offend more people then the Eugene character. Definitely. But give them time and they will go to far with Eugene. It took them about a month to do it with Katie Vick. Has Eugene been on for more or les than a month?
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 WWE's gimmicks are always based on stereotypes, plain and simple. I mean, you wouldn't see an obese man portrayed as something other than that, with it always referenced too, even if it wouldn't entirely be a gimmick, because unless WWE were really corny, that person really would be obese. And, this is someone that doesn't have a "World's strongest man" gimmick. Eugene is no different - WWE are portraying him as the average mentally handicapped person, or at least, as most people see mentally handicapped people. The fans that you be offended are probably fans with no real understanding of how the business works. Sure, everyone knows it's "fake", but they might say "Oh, they're making fun of mentally handicapped people!" or the really stupid ones "Hey, they're exploiting that poor, mentally handicapped man!" And the fans that WWE aim at are the ones most likely to be offended, but they got away with necrophilia, didn't they?
Guest CronoT Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 And the fans that WWE aim at are the ones most likely to be offended, but they got away with necrophilia, didn't they? They didn't exactly "get away with it." About 1,000 affiliates dropped TNN/Spike TV because of it.
DrVenkman PhD Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 I realized the beauty of the Eugene gimmick while watching Backlash at Famous Players movie theatre last weekend (hooray for the death of the HU cards forcing me to pay to watch PPV!) Anyway, the marks ate him up, while the mentally handicapped individual a few rows up didn't comprehend he should have been offending her.
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