Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Does anyone know anything about this show? Sometime last week, I downloaded a cruiserweight match (Rey Mysterio Jr vs Dean Malenko) So, after having done that, I would like to know more about this show, if anyone else knows about it. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Is that the infamous nWo Monday Nitro episode? Basically, the nWo tore down the Nitro set and replaced it with its own set, then put on probably the worst 90+ minutes of programming they'd ever done up to that point (although not quite as bad as 1999 levels). The idea was to see how well the nWo version of Nitro would do. It was so bad that Raw actually won the second head-to-head hour that night, leading to them changing the booking of Starrcade so that Larry Zbyszko had to go over Eric Bischoff. If that's not the episode in question, my apologies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 EDIT: N/M, this is the L.A. house show in 1997 entitled "WCW Saturday Nitro"... 1. Juventud Guerrera, Super Calo, and Damien defeated Konnan, La Parka, and Villano IV when Guerrera pinned Villano. 2. Ultimo Dragon defeated Psicosis via submission. 3. Eddie Guerrero pinned Dean Malenko. 4. Rick and Scott Steiner defeated Buff Bagwell and Masa Chono when Rick pinned Bagwell. 5. World Cruiserweight Title Match: Syxx defeated Rey Misterio, Jr. via submission to retain the title. 6. World Cruiserweight Title Match: Chris Jericho pinned Syxx to win the title 7. Roddy Piper defeated Ric Flair via submission. 8. Diamond Dallas Page pinned Randy Savage. 9. World Tag Team Title Match: Lex Luger and The Giant defeated The Outsiders by Disqualification. The Outsiders retain the tag team titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 It was a WCW PPV held in Germany sorry I don't know the date of when it happen, a tape of it does exist, but you have to find the right tape trader. Matches results were: Alex Wright pinned Hugh Morris Madussa pinned Luna Vachon The Steiner Brothers won by pin over Harlem Heat Rey Misterio pinned Dean Malenko Dallas Page pinned V.K Wallstreet Chris Benoit pinned Meng Lex Luger and The Giant won by DQ over World Tag Champs Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I had an idea that it was an international show, as the clip of the Rey/Dean match was in a foreign language I wasn't familiar with. I just had no clue where it took place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Is that the infamous nWo Monday Nitro episode? Basically, the nWo tore down the Nitro set and replaced it with its own set, then put on probably the worst 90+ minutes of programming they'd ever done up to that point (although not quite as bad as 1999 levels). The idea was to see how well the nWo version of Nitro would do. It was so bad that Raw actually won the second head-to-head hour that night, leading to them changing the booking of Starrcade so that Larry Zbyszko had to go over Eric Bischoff. If that's not the episode in question, my apologies. That isn't the one, but it's ok. Was this when they started spraypainting "nWo" over the WCW logo on the Monday Nitro logo? And how many of these "nWo Monday Nitro" episodes did they end up doing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JST 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Just one, thankfully. I dunno, but 30 minutes of a crew putting up an nWo set while Rick Rude heckles them is NOT my ideal monday night viewing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Just one, thankfully. I dunno, but 30 minutes of a crew putting up an nWo set while Rick Rude heckles them is NOT my ideal monday night viewing. Didn't it bomb in the ratings when they did that? The whole nWo Nitro segment I mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Yep. I believe that was the deciding factor in Zbyszko going over at Starrcade ... or at least one of the factors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Didn't Larry (not even gonna try to spell his last name) have a feud with Scott Hall the month after Starrcade? And wasn't that the match where Dusty ran in and joined the nWo by attacking Larry? Also, when did the nWo Wolfpac first form and why? I wasn't watching during this period, so I'm asking a billion and one questions about all of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Didn't Larry (not even gonna try to spell his last name) have a feud with Scott Hall the month after Starrcade? And wasn't that the match where Dusty ran in and joined the nWo by attacking Larry? Zbyszko had been feuding with Hall since the fall. Because he beat Bischoff at Starrcade, he earned the match with Hall at Souled Out. And yes, that was when Dusty turned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Big Dusty dressed in Wolfpac colors later in 98 before Halls turn = Priceless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Also, when did the nWo Wolfpac first form and why? Can someone answer this one for me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Also, when did the nWo Wolfpac first form and why? Can someone answer this one for me? If memory serves (and my memory on the arc of the nWo is sketchy), it formed over the split between Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan in 1998. But, lord, it's hard to actually keep track of that storyline. That and the Kane v UT storyline tend to be damned confusing. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 The Savage / Hogan rivalry did in part lead to the Wolfpac but Nash's relationship with Hogan I think played the bigger part. There was tension between the two off and on for over a year before Nash interfered in the Sting / Savage match at Spring Stampede, thus putting the belt on Savage and more or less slapping Hogan in the face. This was after Nash & Hogan beat Piper & Giant in a baseball bat match earlier in the night. The bat match and the build up played up the fact that Hogan and Nash couldn't trust one another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2004 Some more stuff I've wondered relating to the nWo. How did the nWo get their name on the PPVs in 1998? How did the nWo get Souled Out 97 as their PPV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 7, 2004 Some more stuff I've wondered relating to the nWo. How did the nWo get their name on the PPVs in 1998? How did the nWo get Souled Out 97 as their PPV? Bischoff always planned for the nWo to become a seperate promotion (think of the RAW/SD split in the WWE today). They just couldn't do it and quickly killed it. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jesse Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Is that the infamous nWo Monday Nitro episode? Basically, the nWo tore down the Nitro set and replaced it with its own set, then put on probably the worst 90+ minutes of programming they'd ever done up to that point (although not quite as bad as 1999 levels). The idea was to see how well the nWo version of Nitro would do. It was so bad that Raw actually won the second head-to-head hour that night, leading to them changing the booking of Starrcade so that Larry Zbyszko had to go over Eric Bischoff. If that's not the episode in question, my apologies. I still have that on tape. I refuse to record over it, just because it was so bad it still comes up in conversation from time to time and I like being able to say "Yeah, I have that on tape." I'm kinda stupid that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2004 Some more stuff I've wondered relating to the nWo. How did the nWo get their name on the PPVs in 1998? How did the nWo get Souled Out 97 as their PPV? The 1997 NWO Souled Out PPV was set up under the notion of the NWO having their own renegade PPV as a means to fuck with WCW since at the time the NWO held the bulk of the belts inside WCW.... IIRC the double-billing of the 1998 PPVs started up around the time that Bischoff was stripped storylinewise of the bulk of his power over WCW and JJ Dillon was introduced as the WCW Commissioner. The plot explaination was that Bischoff (who still had financial control over WCW) added the NWO to the PPV billing as a means to spite WCW... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Hey, just to clarify the dates... The WCW "NWO Take Over '97" show was in Oberhausen, Germany on JUNE 19, 1997. 1. Alex Wright defeated Hugh Morrus. 2. Madusa defeated Luna Vachon. 3. The Steiner Brothers defeated Harlem Heat. 4. Rey Mysterio, Jr. defeated Dean Malenko. 5. Dallas Page defeated M. Wallstreet. 6. Chris Benoit defeated Meng. 7. Lex Luger & The Giant defeated WCW World Tag Team Champions Kevin Nash & Scott Hall by disqualification. The big WCW show in Los Angeles, California was on JUNE 28, 1997. It was remembered for an impromptu challenge from Jericho to Syxx, and the first time an nWo member lost a title belt. 1. Juventud Guerrera, Super Calo, and Damien defeated Konan, La Parka, and Villano IV. 2. Ultimo Dragon defeated Psychosis. 3. Eddie Guerrero defeated Dean Malenko. 4. The Steiner Brothers defeated "Buff" Bagwell and Masahiro Chono. 5. WCW Cruiserweight Champion Syxx defeated Rey Misterio, Jr. 6. Chris Jericho defeated WCW Cruiserweight Champion Syxx to win the title. 7. Roddy Piper defeated Ric Flair. 8. Diamond Dallas Page defeated Randy Savage. 9. Lex Luger & The Giant defeated WCW World Tag Team Champions Scott Hall & Kevin Nash by disqualification. TheHistoryofWCW.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 I used to love when they did NWO Saturday night by having matches in an empty arena in black and white with "The NWO Masked Ref" (Nick Patrick). some highlights I found (because I certainly dont remember this all that vividly): nWo 1st Invitational Tag Team Tournament:Outsiders v.Joe Joe Starbuck/Rocket Starbuck 3rd Round of nWo Tag Tournament-Tony"The Tiger"Washburg/Bud"Smokey"Green v.Outsiders Syxx v.Johnny 2 Tough Acabella(1st Round of nWo Cruiserweight Tournament) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 20, 2004 It was a WCW PPV held in Germany sorry I don't know the date of when it happen, a tape of it does exist, but you have to find the right tape trader. Matches results were: Alex Wright pinned Hugh Morris Madussa pinned Luna Vachon The Steiner Brothers won by pin over Harlem Heat Rey Misterio pinned Dean Malenko Dallas Page pinned V.K Wallstreet Chris Benoit pinned Meng Lex Luger and The Giant won by DQ over World Tag Champs Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. Do you know any good tape traders that have this card? I wouldn't mind seeing Mysterio Jr. vs Malenko and Benoit vs Meng. **Looks around shoulder to see if any WWE spies are watching** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
