Tawren 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Christian can never be taken seriously in the main event. I realise someone on this board actually said this in the other Bad Blood thread, but I also believe that, after the way he's been portrayed over his career, the fans (and Vince) won't take Christian seriously as a contender. With his current push with Trish, he could be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I guess UYI hasn't heard the good heat X has been getting lately. Kane only gets apathetic "more of this shit" reaction...and of course a pop for the pryo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Benoit's been basically beaten by Michaels twice, and all he has for it is a victory in a triple threat match. This is the match-up they should be going with. Rock was closer to turning heel in their first match-up. Jericho's cheers totally overshadowed the Rock's. And Rock played to some of the negative reaction, like with Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 5, 2004 even though Jericho attacked Rock first... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 6, 2004 We are talking about the WCW World Title match at No Mercy aren't we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Yep...Remember...it all started when Rock messed up in the tag match and in the Trainers room...Jericho attacked the rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted May 6, 2004 I'm only going to say the following once. I WILL NOT BUY A PPV WITH THE MAIN EVENT BEING (World Champion) vs. CHRISTIAN. Same goes for Bradshaw. I won't spend $35 on a shit PPV to see someone who shouldn't be main eventing. For Christian, he has a bland move-set, looks too mid-carderish, and is pretty much as built as Zach Gowen was. He looks like a skinny rat. I've never thought of him.....ever, as above mid-card status. Just because Christian is magically getting heel heat in a feud with CHRIS JERICHO, and has Trish in his corner, doesn't mean I'm gonna pay to see him headline. I'm sorry I'm not a 12 year old who jacks off to the WWE Divas and thinks whoever they're with should be pushed to the world title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 I'm only going to say the following once. I WILL NOT BUY A PPV WITH THE MAIN EVENT BEING (World Champion) vs. CHRISTIAN. Don't like good wrestling, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 I'm only going to say the following once. I WILL NOT BUY A PPV WITH THE MAIN EVENT BEING (World Champion) vs. CHRISTIAN. Don't like good wrestling, eh? Well, actually, Christian isn't a very good wrestler. But versus Benoit, I guess it'd be a pretty good match. But even so, Christian has to have a main event program before facing the World Champion. There is no way he can magically go from a mid-card feud (face it, the Jericho feud is one, albeit an entertaining and time-consuming one) to World Title feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Christian does very little for me. Edge was always the star of that team and always struck me as the one with the greatest potential. I'm not denying Christian is getting great reactions now, but it's taken Chris Jericho and Trish Stratus to do it, take that away and your left with the same, old, predictable Christian. No thanks. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 I do not mind X getting a title shot whatsoever. I like the guy, I think he'd make a good title contendor. Not a future World Champion, but a contendor nonetheless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 I don't mind Christian getting a title shot, just not on a PPV. It only helps for Bradshaw because of his size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted May 6, 2004 I'm only going to say the following once. I WILL NOT BUY A PPV WITH THE MAIN EVENT BEING (World Champion) vs. CHRISTIAN. Don't like good wrestling, eh? By that logic, a 1994 PPV should've been headlined by Bret Hart and the 1-2-3 KID. Christian is a mid-carder for life. I don't mind a TV Title match, but what would justify spending $35 for a PPV with him headlining, and most likely having no chance in hell of winning? I'm sorry, but I'm not as rich as you, where you can toss money out for shitty shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 I agree with BBCW here (!!!). There is no way in hell I'd shell out 20 bucks (AUS) to watch any PPV with Christian in the main event, because, as Charlie said, there is no way in hell Vince would ever stick a World title on him. He's just fine where he is. At least with Kane, there is a some thread of unpredictability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Y2G Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Christian does very little for me. Edge was always the star of that team and always struck me as the one with the greatest potential. I'm not denying Christian is getting great reactions now, but it's taken Chris Jericho and Trish Stratus to do it, take that away and your left with the same, old, predictable Christian. No thanks. UYI Edge?! Mr. No heat? Christian in my opinion is the better wrestler. It all depends on the kind of storyline you give him. They bring Edge back with bells and all (Which is good for them) so no wonder people think he's got greatest potential. Christian, with a well thought of push, could be a main eventer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Christian, with a well thought of push, could be a main eventer. Ya, so could Tajiri, but that doesn't mean people will pay to see a main event with them headlining it. Most fans here hate BRADSHAW being in the main event, despite being very over. Why? Because it was a midcard attraction. His gimmick now is fine, but there is one problem. HE CAN'T WRESTLE WORTH A SHIT. Christian, although being a decent worker, is the king of cheap heat. E&C were based on making fun of the home crowd etc, and Christian moving to Tampa, FL was a cheap way to get heat at WM X-8. Even though he's feuding withg Jericho (the most over person on RAW I'll say), It doesn't mean he's over. That's like saying Orton was over a few months ago because the crowd popped when Ric Flair was with him. Just because they have potential doesn't mean jack shit. Sean O'Haire had potential last year, but bombed because he couldn't cut live promos, and had a very bland offense thanks to whoever thought using headlocks 90% of the match was better than doing anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Y2G Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Christian, with a well thought of push, could be a main eventer. Ya, so could Tajiri, but that doesn't mean people will pay to see a main event with them headlining it. Tajiri is not Christian. I don't believe that Tajiri-like wrestlers can ever be maineventers (Not that they're bad, He can't speak English worth a ... and he's just not... Well, for the lack of a better word "Strong" enough). I would pay for a main event including Christian. Of course it depends on the oponent, but this is the case also with established ones. I didn't pay to see HHH Vs. Steiner cause i knew it was gonna be Crap. Most fans here hate BRADSHAW being in the main event, despite being very over. Why? Because it was a midcard attraction. I hate Bradshaw not because he's a mid card attraction, but because of the following things you wrote: but there is one problem. HE CAN'T WRESTLE WORTH A SHIT. Even though he's feuding withg Jericho (the most over person on RAW I'll say), It doesn't mean he's over. That's like saying Orton was over a few months ago because the crowd popped when Ric Flair was with him. Benoit is one of my Favourite wrestlers of all time. But if he was feuding with say... Shanon Moore, it would have been boring. So what if Christian gets pop while in a feud with Jericho. He still gets them. There are wrestlers who would just be ignored, He is not. As written above - It all depends on the oponent and it works both ways. Just because they have potential doesn't mean jack shit. No argument here Sean O'Haire had potential last year, but bombed because he couldn't cut live promos, and had a very bland offense thanks to whoever thought using headlocks 90% of the match was better than doing anything else. That is exactly what Christian is not. He can wrestle better than O'Haire. He cuts decent promos and he plays his role very well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Tajiri vs Benoit for the World Title would be better then Benoit vs Christian in every way possible. Every way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Y2G Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Tajiri vs Benoit for the World Title would be better then Benoit vs Christian in every way possible. Every way. Uhmm... Let's say that i agree with you (and i don't), How would you do the build up to a match like that? Tajiri promo... I don't think so Benoit promo... Uhm... As i said, one of my favourite wrestlers of all time, but not the strongest promo cutter It would be extremely hard to pull a soryline that would fit them without lowering it to a panthomime level. and to the match itself. I like Tajiri and i like the prospect of seing him wrestling with the likes of Benoit, Eddie, Even HHH was nice. All that on TV would be nice. But for a main event on a PPV you need more than pure werstling talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Christian, with a well thought of push, could be a main eventer. That may be true, but a one-month filler PPV title contender push is not going to get him that status. It'll basically be a John Cena push from April 2003, where he's only in there to job in the end, and shunted right down the card immediately after. Cena was directionless for around three months after jobbing to Brock, up until he faced Taker in July. Kane is a better choice, but only by the slimmest of margins as he has slightly more credibility than Christian, but not much. Let's face it, he lost soundly to Taker at Mania, and to Edge in less than ten minutes at Backlash. Benoit/Kane will be longer than ten minutes for sure, so how does that make Benoit look in that it takes longer for him to beat Kane than it does for Edge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Tajiri vs Benoit for the World Title would be better then Benoit vs Christian in every way possible. Every way. Uhmm... Let's say that i agree with you (and i don't), How would you do the build up to a match like that? Tajiri promo... I don't think so Benoit promo... Uhm... As i said, one of my favourite wrestlers of all time, but not the strongest promo cutter It would be extremely hard to pull a soryline that would fit them without lowering it to a panthomime level. and to the match itself. I like Tajiri and i like the prospect of seing him wrestling with the likes of Benoit, Eddie, Even HHH was nice. All that on TV would be nice. But for a main event on a PPV you need more than pure werstling talent. You need more then pure wrestling talent to main event a PPV? You do? *Crickets chirp* *Tumbleweed rolls by* Right. Sure you do. Doing Tajiri vs Benoit would be easy as pie. I'd prefer to have Tajiri with a manager to cut promo's for him but focus the basis of the match around Tajiri's unique style and how Benoit hasn't really wrestled anybody like Tajiri before. Put over Tajiri's mat skills and ability to counter the crossface and put the kicks over as death. The story would be Benoit having to look back into his past days in Japan and ECW and needing to modify his moveset to beat Tajiri (finish the match with a powerbomb or stf or something he's never won with before.) Or you could have a match full of Christian putting Benoit in headlocks and doing 1000 different reverse ddt variations. Your choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Y2G Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Christian, with a well thought of push, could be a main eventer. That may be true, but a one-month filler PPV title contender push is not going to get him that status. That wasn't my intention. I'm thinkning more of making him a permanent main eventer :-) But The truth is that i believe the best one for the comming PPV (AS i wrote way before in the thread, Is Jericho. But if they want Kane... Well... I hate it but i like Benoit so much i'd watch even that. Since i couldn't quote two posts i'll just answer briefly to the Tajiri angle: Could actually work, I'll give ya that:-) But it doesn't make Christian any less worthy. Christian can do a hell of a match with a worker like Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Correction: Christian could be CARRIED to a hell of a match with a worker like Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thuganomics 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Tajiri vs Benoit for the World Title would be better then Benoit vs Christian in every way possible. Every way. Uhmm... Let's say that i agree with you (and i don't), How would you do the build up to a match like that? Tajiri promo... I don't think so Benoit promo... Uhm... As i said, one of my favourite wrestlers of all time, but not the strongest promo cutter It would be extremely hard to pull a soryline that would fit them without lowering it to a panthomime level. and to the match itself. I like Tajiri and i like the prospect of seing him wrestling with the likes of Benoit, Eddie, Even HHH was nice. All that on TV would be nice. But for a main event on a PPV you need more than pure werstling talent. You need more then pure wrestling talent to main event a PPV? You do? *Crickets chirp* *Tumbleweed rolls by* Right. Sure you do. Doing Tajiri vs Benoit would be easy as pie. I'd prefer to have Tajiri with a manager to cut promo's for him but focus the basis of the match around Tajiri's unique style and how Benoit hasn't really wrestled anybody like Tajiri before. Put over Tajiri's mat skills and ability to counter the crossface and put the kicks over as death. The story would be Benoit having to look back into his past days in Japan and ECW and needing to modify his moveset to beat Tajiri (finish the match with a powerbomb or stf or something he's never won with before.) Or you could have a match full of Christian putting Benoit in headlocks and doing 1000 different reverse ddt variations. Your choice. I respect your love for Tajiri, and agree he's a talented wrestler, but have you watched WWE, well, ever. The last time WWE based a feud on pure wrestling was some time in the Bruno Sammartino era. And it probably wasn't very good... There's no way in hell that Tajiri would ever get a main event push. EVER. He's small AND he doesn't talk. Christian has a slim chance, though I'm sure we'll see Batista in the main event before we do him. I like Christian, but Vince really doesn't seem to think of him as anything more than an upper midcarder max. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Christian rocks. I'd so buy Bad Blood if he main events. His heel stable, entourage, whatever, and their beatdown of Jericho was the best part of Raw on Monday. I'd dig X and Benoit at Bad Blood, with Benoit goin' over. But then, I suppose Jericho has put Tyson Tomko over...to balance the wins of the stable. Eh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Tajiri? The guy JONATHON COACHMAN and GARRISON CADE pinned in back to back days? Maybe in a few years....on HeAT, he will receive a non-title match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites