Some Guy 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2004 Bowling for Columbine didnt make any money, when its hands down the most successful and profitible documentary of all time Yes it was successful. But it is NOT a documentary. I was thinking the same thing. I might go out and rent the fucking thing just to see the thing after I've read so much about it. My sister watched it and started telluing me about it and after I told of several things that were not true or misrepresentations she gave me the typical liberal response that it was the the point that it made that was important. To which I replied, "but if it's not true doesn't that make any "point" moot? Moore is a liar and a polemicist. It is really no suprise that he lied about Disney's deal with him, he has apparently lied throughout all of his movies. I've always wondered why people feel the need to lie about things in order to get peopel to agree with them, rather than realizing that if they need to lie about it, chances are that it doens't need to be changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2004 Calling Mikey Moore's work "documentaries" is like calling Rush Limbaugh an objective political observer. Like each of them if you wish, but don't be under the illusion of what they really are... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 11, 2004 You've demonstrated time and time again that you're not exactly the best movie critic on this board... Ah, so only views you agree with are acceptable? Got it. and your hatred for Moore really does hinder your ability to make any rational thought towards the man even when reviewing his movies. He could make a film on par with Casablanca, and you would still think it was crap simply because he's on your "must hate and criticize at all costs" list I've said I liked "Canadian Bacon". And Moore, clearly, is incapable of making a movie of Casablanca quality. He can't make movies of "Ass-a-Blanca" quality. I mean fuck man... you spent several posts arguing that Bowling for Columbine didnt make any money, when its hands down the most successful and profitible documentary of all time... and when you were made aware of this you still said "well it still didn't make alot of money" even though, yes, yes it did... unless of course you're judging it on the Titanic profitable movie scale that says in order for a movie to be a success it must make upwards of $150 million That being said... yes, yes Moore is a fat, pathetic sack of shit but he's still a great filmmaker Are you actually attempting to equate box office success with movie quality? That is just sad. Compare his films to other works of fiction and he doesn't come out looking good. How many other films have to use their DVD sales to boost up their "profit margin"? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted May 11, 2004 Bowling for Columbine was universally hailed as a great film... I'm only freakin' arguing it's box office strength because you spent several posts trying to convince yourself that it WASNT a success... and even when we pointed out that it was indeed financially successful you CONTINUED to argue its financial success, making it sound like if it didnt make 150 million, it must be a failure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 11, 2004 Bowling for Columbine was universally hailed as a great film They also think that truth aren't important for a documentary, so their opinions mean squat. ... I'm only freakin' arguing it's box office strength because you spent several posts trying to convince yourself that it WASNT a success... and even when we pointed out that it was indeed financially successful you CONTINUED to argue its financial success, making it sound like if it didnt make 150 million, it must be a failure No --- it being a "documentary" with a widely known series of lies makes it a failure. But, hey, long as it pays lip service to leftist ideals, who cares about truth, right? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted May 11, 2004 What lies? As i've stated before, Moore goes through the "myths" and "lies" people are claiming were in BFC at his website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted May 11, 2004 Mike... Bowling for Columbine was a financial success... period, end of discussion. Whether it was successful on its portrayal of subject matter is irrelevant... I'm talking about its success on a financial basis, and you... are... wrong We could argue about the subject of the movie all day, but you cannot argue with numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 11, 2004 What lies? As i've stated before, Moore goes through the "myths" and "lies" people are claiming were in BFC at his website. And he lies there. Mike... Bowling for Columbine was a financial success... period, end of discussion. Whether it was successful on its portrayal of subject matter is irrelevant... I'm talking about its success on a financial basis, and you... are... wrong We could argue about the subject of the movie all day, but you cannot argue with numbers I'll go real slow here: I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than...I....d o....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless....hack -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted May 11, 2004 fair enough... then don't argue with numbers when you are proved wrong... just say "okay okay, so I was wrong, I dont give a damn anyway" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 11, 2004 fair enough... then don't argue with numbers when you are proved wrong... just say "okay okay, so I was wrong, I dont give a damn anyway" I'll go real slow here: I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than...I....d o....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless....hack -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted May 11, 2004 fair enough... then don't argue with numbers when you are proved wrong... just say "okay okay, so I was wrong, I dont give a damn anyway" I'll go real slow here: I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than...I....d o....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless....hack -=Mike lol then don't enter into discussions about him... its just that simple... and when you do enter discussions, and when someone proves you wrong, then don't continue arguing, splitting hairs trying to make it sound like you're right christ... you seem like the type of person that would argue with someone about the world being round or flat... and when your opponent presents you a globe, you present him with a map Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 11, 2004 lol then don't enter into discussions about him... its just that simple... and when you do enter discussions, and when someone proves you wrong, then don't continue arguing, splitting hairs trying to make it sound like you're right christ... you seem like the type of person that would argue with someone about the world being round or flat... and when your opponent presents you a globe, you present him with a map I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted May 11, 2004 actually, I think you're a closet case Moore fan in either case, I'm glad you're giving up on your argument Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 11, 2004 actually, I think you're a closet case Moore fan in either case, I'm glad you're giving up on your argument I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted May 11, 2004 actually, I think you're a closet case Moore fan in either case, I'm glad you're giving up on your argument I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike doo doo face Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 11, 2004 actually, I think you're a closet case Moore fan in either case, I'm glad you're giving up on your argument I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike doo doo face I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike ...You'd be shocked how easy it is to keep doing this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted May 11, 2004 actually, I think you're a closet case Moore fan in either case, I'm glad you're giving up on your argument I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike doo doo face I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike ...You'd be shocked how easy it is to keep doing this Old Fashioned Brownies Recipe 1 cup pecan nuts, shelled, chopped 3/4 cup flour 3/4 cup sugar 1/3 cup butter 1 egg 1/4 cup milk Mix all the ingredients well together. Beat thoroughly to make mixture light. Pour into buttered and floured fancy cake tins. Bake in hot oven for about 15 to 20 minutes, according to the size of the tins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 11, 2004 actually, I think you're a closet case Moore fan in either case, I'm glad you're giving up on your argument I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike doo doo face I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike ...You'd be shocked how easy it is to keep doing this Old Fashioned Brownies Recipe 1 cup pecan nuts, shelled, chopped 3/4 cup flour 3/4 cup sugar 1/3 cup butter 1 egg 1/4 cup milk Mix all the ingredients well together. Beat thoroughly to make mixture light. Pour into buttered and floured fancy cake tins. Bake in hot oven for about 15 to 20 minutes, according to the size of the tins. I can hear Moore's gut expanding. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted May 11, 2004 It'll expand even more after he makes millions off his new movie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 actually, I think you're a closet case Moore fan in either case, I'm glad you're giving up on your argument I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike doo doo face I...could...not...conceivably....give....less...of....a....damn....than.. I....do....about...anything....involving....that....fat....talentless.... hack -=Mike ...You'd be shocked how easy it is to keep doing this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites