Mik 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 What is the league average? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 That I unfortunately can't give you(It would require me to do pretty much every pitcher out and I don't feel like doing 150 starters plus the guys who have spot started). If it eats at you though, feel free to attempt it yourself Here are the league leaders as of 5/30 though in number of pitches thrown(doesn't necessarily mean that they lead the league in pitches per game though as Schilling, 2nd to Zambrano, is throwing 112 per game). AL Leader = Tampa Bay's Victor Zambrano(1271/12 = 106 pitches per game) NL Leader = Montreal's Livan Hernandez(1201/11 = 109 pitches per game) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Regardless of whose fault it is, Beckett's been placed on the DL. Good news for Phillies fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Bugger it, I'll do an experiment seeing which team's starters throw the most pitches per game combined. Should be fun at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 After a long while of work, here are my findings. Pitcher Leader in Asterisks. Top 5 in American League #1: Oakland Athletics(512 Total) *Mark Mulder at 105* [All pitchers at least 100!] #1B: Seattle Mariners(512 Total) *Freddy Garcia at 110* #3: Texas Rangers(495 Total) *Kenny Rogers at 105* #4: Toronto Blue Jays(494 Total) *Roy Halladay at 108* #5: New York Yankees(484 Total) *Javier Vazquez at 102* Top 5 in National League #1: Atlanta Braves(490 Total) *Horacio Ramirez at 101* #1B: Houston Astros(490 Total) *Roger Clemens at 107* #1C: St. Louis Cardinals(490 Total) *Jason Marquis at 105* #4: San Francisco Giants(486 Total) *Jason Schmidt at 110* #5: Pittsburgh Pirates(480 Total) *Kip Wells at 105* Also in case you were wondering Bruiser.... Chicago Cubs = 478 Total -Carlos Zambrano leads with 105 -Kerry Wood with 101 -Matt Clement with 101 -Greg Maddux with 86 -Sergio Mitre with 85 And for you Mik, Florida = 472 Total -Brad Penny with 105 leads the way -Josh Beckett with 98 -Carl Pavano with 97 -Dontrelle Willis with 95 -Darren Oliver with 77 Finally Keiper, Phillies sat at 479 Total -Eric Milton leads with 103 -Kevin Millwood with 98 -Randy Wolf with 94 -Vincente Padilla with 92 -Brett Myers with 92 Also of note, the teams with the "best" bullpens as experts like to call them(Boston, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Houston, Los Angeles and the Yankees) finished with starter pitches of 470, 480, 461, 490, 464 and 484. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Color me a bit surprised there. Although, once take the Cubs' numbers with a grain of salt, since they'd probably be in the top 5, if not leading it, if they had Prior going instead of Mitre. Sergio's only averaging in the 80s because he self-destructs by the fifth inning every time out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crazy Dan Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Man, 9 in a row for the Giants... I am a very happy guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Also of note, the teams with the "best" bullpens as experts like to call them(Boston, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Houston, Los Angeles and the Yankees) The hell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Basically I included Cincy because everybody's raving about Graves(However misaligned it may be) and Riedling's been very solid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 31, 2004 whose raving about Graves? Yeah he leads in Saves but thats because he's been given the most oppourtinities and has blown five of them...gives up way too many hits for a closer and tends to take 7-3 games and makes them 7-6 games way too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Basically I included Cincy because everybody's raving about Graves(However misaligned it may be) and Riedling's been very solid. I thought you were referring to John Kruk's comments. He said Cincy has the best bullpen in the Central because Todd Jones is 3-1 and Danny Graves leads in saves. Wow, can't argue with that, can ya? Haha. He also said Wily Mo Pena shouldn't "trot" around the bases after hitting his 3rd HR (in 49 AB) because he is only hitting .245 or something. Ah.. Just making sure you aren't calling Kruk a "expert". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Today's the weekly beatdown of Derek Lowe. I expect him to go 3 1/3 innings and then throw a hissy fit on his way to the clubhouse after being yanked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Well, he's already given up a solo shot to Surhoff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Boston fans boo the hell out of Lowe as he bleeds to death on the mound. What's the logic behind keeping him in there any longer? It's obvious that his open blister is affecting his pitching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 31, 2004 (edited) I still hope they trade Lowe and bring in either Russ Ortiz or Freddy Garcia. Both pitchers will be available later with the way their teams are in the standings. Edit: I also tend to just ignore games pitched by Derek Lowe. He's a fluke starter who thinks he's worth more than $9mill a season. I'm watching Atlanta and Montreal...great fucking game thus far and Nick Green just hit his first major league homer to put the Braves up 5-2. Edited May 31, 2004 by FrigidSoul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Scott Boras has to be pissed. Oh and I can't see any team bailing out the Red Sox by trading for Lowe at the deadline. Maybe if they trade for another starter they can stick him in the bullpen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Today's the weekly beatdown of Derek Lowe. I expect him to go 3 1/3 innings and then throw a hissy fit on his way to the clubhouse after being yanked. Oh, fuck. That means the Yanks are in first place (tied) after today. Which means they won't bother to come to the Stadium tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Well the thing is, Lowe will still probably be in the A group of FA Starters. Meaning he'll net the Red Sox or some other team a 1st round pick. Seattle is getting really old so I could see them being willing to trade Garcia for Lowe + a prospect like Justin Sherrod. Seattle would get a prospect, save about $3mill in salary, and can either go and keep Lowe then offer him Arby and grab the picks or go around and trade him for more prospects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Pettitte's heading back to the DL because of the forearm strain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Some good news for Bruiser and his fellow Cubbies fans. Ryan Dempster threw 3 scoreless innings the other day for a Class A affiliate. Looks like he'll be back by mid June. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Well the thing is, Lowe will still probably be in the A group of FA Starters. Meaning he'll net the Red Sox or some other team a 1st round pick. Seattle is getting really old so I could see them being willing to trade Garcia for Lowe + a prospect like Justin Sherrod. Seattle would get a prospect, save about $3mill in salary, and can either go and keep Lowe then offer him Arby and grab the picks or go around and trade him for more prospects. Why the HELL would a team trade for Lowe? He's expensive, and an impending free agent. Offer him arbitration, and he'll likely accept it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Mark Prior is apparently going to start Friday at Wrigley against the Pirates. I sure he hope he's fully healthy. The worst thing they could do is bring him back too soon. At least maybe he'll be able to get Mackowiak out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Why the HELL would a team trade for Lowe? He's expensive, and an impending free agent. Offer him arbitration, and he'll likely accept it. He makes $4.5mill this season, deffinately not expensive to today's standards. He won't accept arby. Somebody will be willing to over-pay to take him. He's a native of Michigan and his favorite team to watch is the Tigers. I'm sure he'd be willing to go pitch there. You know somebody will offer him something ludacris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Casey is a monster. ......Roar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Fuck Casey. He should have drawn a walk and then let Griffey hit a homer...my fantasy team likes homers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Fuck Casey. He should have drawn a walk and then let Griffey hit a homer...my fantasy team likes homers. That would've been nice too. Junior did single tho. Yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 31, 2004 You know somebody will offer him something ludacris. The rapper? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 31, 2004 I don't think D-Lowe comes from 8-Mile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Pena = Greek God of Everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 31, 2004 Larkin goes yard. And .... 2 Homers for Casey!! MVP MVP MVP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
