Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted June 1, 2004 Who here can say that they don't sing to Reo Speedwagon when they are fucking gunned? Fucking 'eh. There'll always be musical snobs who take the shit too seriously, but I'd hope they can stop analyzing music and not get fucking cynical while everyone else just wants to jam to Loverboy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 On that note, I'm going to see Eddie Money for free this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JRE Report post Posted June 1, 2004 So...to skip all the arguments- bottom line....I don't think The Vines, who are scheduled for a bigger summer tour with Incubus- are really broken up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 right, you lot are mostly stuck-up little brats who have *FAR* too much time on your hands. Music is there too be enjoyed, simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Concurrently, I suppose films are just to be watched when you're bored and literature is just to be read to pass the time. I like to get the most out of anything I give my time, music especially. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 right, you lot are mostly stuck-up little brats who have *FAR* too much time on your hands. Music is there too be enjoyed, simple as that. Did you even read what Agent and Edwin said? Â I've never understood people such as yourself. How can anyone go through life so willfully ignorant? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5_moves_of_doom 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 right, you lot are mostly stuck-up little brats who have *FAR* too much time on your hands. Music is there too be enjoyed, simple as that. I'm not really in this argument, but... is it just me, or did you just COMPLETELY ignore Edwin's argument and restate what you've been saying for about five posts? At least produce some counterpoints. Music is for enjoyment, but in my opinion, film, literature, and art are also for enjoyment, and they all are even more enjoyable to analyze and discuss why they're so enjoyable (as Edwin said.) This doesn't apply, of course, if the music sucks. Â That said, I like the White Stripes and the Strokes (to a certain extent,) and bands like Jet (the "mindless entertainment" ones) are mindlessly entertaining the first two or three times around, but you only truly can identify music that bad or that unoriginal or that bland when you want to stab yourself in the chest repeatedly after you've listened to it enough times. This "mindless" music is only amusing to a certain point -- it's the analyzable, original and inventive music that stands out as true art. It's like comparing a three-year-old's birthday card to his mother to Van Gough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 2, 2004 right, you lot are mostly stuck-up little brats who have *FAR* too much time on your hands. Music is there too be enjoyed, simple as that. Did you even read what Agent and Edwin said?  I've never understood people such as yourself. How can anyone go through life so willfully ignorant? Yes! Fucking yes!  And if everyone on this planet had the same viewpoint as you (RVDMARK), could you imagine the quality of music being brought out?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted June 4, 2004 I haven't actually read this story on the internet or seen it on tv? Is it true or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 I know I'll hold my shit in till I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 right, you lot are mostly stuck-up little brats who have *FAR* too much time on your hands. Music is there too be enjoyed, simple as that. Did you even read what Agent and Edwin said?  I've never understood people such as yourself. How can anyone go through life so willfully ignorant? Yes! Fucking yes!  And if everyone on this planet had the same viewpoint as you (RVDMARK), could you imagine the quality of music being brought out?  He said that music was meant to be enjoyed. You say his viewpoint produces shitty music. So what you're getting at is that if you enjoy music, it has to be shitty? For music to be good, it has to be absolutely insufferable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 If music is meant to be enjoyed, and you don't enjoy it, are you doing something wrong? Should you enjoy every song ever written? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 Absolutely not. I was merely making an issue out of IB's claim that enjoying music means that it's shitty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 OK, but when did he say that? He merely took to task the tripe RVDMARK vomited forth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 Music is there too be enjoyed, simple as that. Â If everyone on this planet had the same viewpoint as you (RVDMARK), could you imagine the quality of music being brought out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 RVDMARK's viewpoint is that music is there to be enjoyed. Note the full stop. This is awful for reasons that have been posted. How is that complicated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 If music isn't meant to be enjoyed, than what is it meant for, exactly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 Of course it's meant to be enjoyed, but that doesn't mean that if you, by some bizarrely coincidental evolutionary cataclysm, form your own opinion on it, you're not allowed to hate Jet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 The statement was that music was to be enjoyed. Â IB said that if everyone agreed with that statement, music would suck. Â A+B=C. Â If everyone believed that music was to be enjoyed, music would suck. Â I disagreed. Â Â Tell me how Jet is involved? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 RVDMARK's viewpoint of music being there to be enjoyed was only posted as an argument towards those disparaging Jet and/or The Vines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2004 Your just involving personal opinions too much, SaturnDayNiteLive. For your information, even although it has no relevance, I don't like Keane, don't care one way or another about Jet and I enjoyed The Vines first album, despite feeling indifferent to their second. As you can presumably see, I am not arguing based on personal preferences, contrary to your most recent post. The *entire* point of music is that it is made to be enjoyed. For any of the bands that you, and others, routinely slate, it is fair to say that a reasonable number of people, not necessarily including myself, find enjoyment from listening to it. I am complaining, however, about the little brats like you, who see fit to come onto a message board and moan that "(artist A) should die and never make music ever again because they're poluting my ears". Well, fair enough, you dislike a certain musical artist. Nothing unusual there. But please, and I mean please, stop moaning and acting like a spoilt little brat with nothing better to do than to play music reviewer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Ah, well that settles that then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted June 7, 2004 The thing is, not all music is meant to be enjoyed. Some of it is meant to frighten people, disgust people, even hurt people and damage their stereo systems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Erm, i think that if a particular CD damaged my stereo that I would have a reasonable compensation claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted June 8, 2004 So? It still broke your stereo. That's awesome. Cephalic Carnage has a couple synth bass drops that will fuck something up if you aren't careful with your system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 8, 2004 Music is there too be enjoyed, simple as that. Â If everyone on this planet had the same viewpoint as you (RVDMARK), could you imagine the quality of music being brought out? Exactly. That means that he doesn't agree with our tastes in music, which means that, at least for our tastes, he enjoys shit. Â Which is why I said something like if his taste in music was the quality being brought-out, it would indeed be shit - if he agreed with us, he wouldn't've, well, disagreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted June 8, 2004 What's this "we" crap? You think Green Day has put out more than 1 five-star album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 8, 2004 Dookie and Nimrod are ***** albums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted June 8, 2004 in crack-laced Australia, at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites