sfaJack Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 I'm scared that the Cubs, at 4.5 back, are at the point of no return. They need a sweep against Pittsburgh to stay alive or else I really think they're through. Yeah I know it's only June. There's less than four months for the Cubs to get out of 4th place, and frankly, I'm scared. Relax, man. Cubs were 5 1/2 back in August last year before roaring back. Besides, help is on the way today!!
Fuzzy Dunlop Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TODAY, LIVE FROM WRIGLEY FIELD, AT 2:20 CENTRAL TIME, MARK PRIOR!!!!!!!!!!
DerangedHermit Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 I'm scared that the Cubs, at 4.5 back, are at the point of no return. They need a sweep against Pittsburgh to stay alive or else I really think they're through. Yeah I know it's only June. There's less than four months for the Cubs to get out of 4th place, and frankly, I'm scared. It's only June......the Mets are 2.5 back of the Marlins right now.
Bruiser Chong Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 I'm not scared, yet. If the Cubs are still that far back with Sosa, Prior and Wood far removed from the DL, THEN I'll worry. Anyone psyched for the Cubs game today, though? Should be a great game. Prior returning is going to be awesome and the Cubs have always hit Fogg well. I'm thinking about taping it.
Fuzzy Dunlop Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Oh, and does this lineup seem a little suspect to anyone else? Walker Lee Patterson Alou Ramirez Hollandsworth Barret Ordonez Prior I still can't wait.
sfaJack Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Goddamn: 6 pitches, 3 outs. What a relief Prior should be for the Cubs. God knows they've earned it.
Bruiser Chong Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Patterson strikes out. Nice to know that not everything has changed.
Slayer Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Hahaha, Prior has been pitching near flawless, but still can't get run support Against the Pirates Hahaha
Bruiser Chong Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Ugh. This game is a classic, but Joe Borowski needs to be taken out of the closer role. He got LUCKY as HELL with Alou's diving catch, but the defense can only do so much.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Trade rumors. Contreras and Navarro for Garcia and Myers. I'm not that big on getting rid of Navarro, because JoPo only has so much longer behind the plate. Still interesting.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 And there goes the lead. Disgusting. Like looking in the mirror.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Lesson #1 of the nonsense of the save statistic. Dusty Baker places Joe Borowski in the game to pitch the ninth. LaTroy Hawkins, their best reliever, pitched a perfect eighth inning, and could likely have pitched the ninth. However, since its a save situation, the manager just has to use his heralded closer. And of course Borowski gives up a run. And right after Borowski gives up that single, he's pulled from the game. Why? Because its no longer a save situation, and Borowski's not good enough to be trusted with a tie game. What the hell kind of logic is that? Some of the crew on MLB radio a few weeks ago proposed a radical solution, and I agree. The save should be ABOLISHED as an official stat.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Trade rumors. Contreras and Navarro for Garcia and Myers. I'm not that big on getting rid of Navarro, because JoPo only has so much longer behind the plate. Still interesting. Seattle isn't going to hand over Freddy Garcia and one of the better lefty specialist pitchers in the game along with taking Contreras' $16mill remaining for one prospect. I'd like to see a source for this rumor because its absolute rubbish
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 I'd assume the Yankees eat part of that contract.
Bruiser Chong Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Great game until Borowski came into the fold. The Cubs then had a chance to tie it up, but GAVE them an out with stupid small ball, something they suck at. Then Lee can't get the job done, either, once again. So of course, it comes down to Patterson. And if he's not striking out, he's popping out. Very painful loss and I surely hope that Dusty takes this is a sign that Borowski was a one season fluke as closer.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 I'd assume the Yankees eat part of that contract. They would have to eat all of it due to him not even being able to go an inning. If they offered to eat the whole contract and the trade went through then it would just be pathetic. This is why I'm enjoying the fact that the next baseball commish may infact be Larry Luchino. There were articles on the possability of it occuring on the net last year. I'm positive Luchino wouldn't allow through the trades Big George has been getting away with that he shouldn't. Like getting Arron Boone for Claussen and $3mill in cash. Not suppose to be more than $1mill in cash transferred during a trade.
Fuzzy Dunlop Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Prior comes back to the same shit as last year. Lack of offense, and the bullpen can't hold down a lead. Patterson gets booed going 0-2, then has a standing ovation for being walked, then goes 0-2 again, including popping up with the tying run on third and everybody cheering and chanting his name. He then gets booed some more. He's oh for his last eight right now. According to Morrisey in the Chicago Tribune, Corey couldn't draw a walk with a crayon and a piece of paper, and referring to those face-high fastballs Corey just loves to swing at, "you'd need a cherrypicker to hit those balls." So let the losing streak continue, two games in a row where Hollandsworth has had the lone RBI, and two games in a row Borowski blows a save against the Pirates.
The Czech Republic Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Joe Borowski, Billy Koch, Billy Koch, Joe Borowski, you should be getting better acquainted, you SHAMELESS GAME-BLOWING JERKS. I thought my south side brethren had it bad against Oakland, but then this guy goes and ruins Prior's return! In MVP Baseball, Borowski, Farnsworth, and Patterson have all been dealt. I suggest the Cubs follow suit. Let's support the Cubs by purchasing ten copies of the Chicago Tribune a day for the next week.
Fuzzy Dunlop Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 So what do you think, guys? Does Hawkins get the closer role?
Bruiser Chong Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 I'd give him a shot at it. Granted the last time he got a chance he blew it, but at this point, it doesn't hurt any to try it. I'd say don't fix it if it's not broken, but it's safe to say it's broken right now. Hell with this only being JoBo's second blown save; nearly all of his outings have been struggles, as evident by his ERA. Go with the guy who's usually lights out.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Trade rumors. Contreras and Navarro for Garcia and Myers. I'm not that big on getting rid of Navarro, because JoPo only has so much longer behind the plate. Still interesting. Seattle isn't going to hand over Freddy Garcia and one of the better lefty specialist pitchers in the game along with taking Contreras' $16mill remaining for one prospect. I'd like to see a source for this rumor because its absolute rubbish The Times. Not major rumors, but they were discussing it on Yankee pregame as well. Contreras Draws Mariners' Interest By TYLER KEPNER Published: June 4, 2004 he Yankees were not alone in their initial assessment of José Contreras. Besides the Boston Red Sox, the Seattle Mariners also offered Contreras a four-year contract after he defected from Cuba in 2002. With Contreras frustrating the Yankees, Seattle is showing interest in him again. The Mariners are in last place in the American League West and are open to making trades, said one baseball official with knowledge of their plans. The official said the Mariners remained interested in Contreras, depending on how much of his contract the Yankees would pay. Contreras is in the second year of a four-year, $32 million deal. Unloading Contreras would be a coup for the Yankees, especially if they could get starter Freddy Garcia and the left-handed reliever Mike Myers in return. The Yankees would need a starter if they gave up on Contreras, and their left-handed relievers, Felix Heredia and Gabe White, have not earned Manager Joe Torre's trust. Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman said the Mariners had not told him of their interest. But Cashman said he expected teams to covet Contreras. "There are people who feel the way we do, which is that this guy has a gigantic ceiling," Cashman said. "Too many people have been at enough games and seen how exciting he is when he's on." Cashman would not comment when asked if he had talked to the Mariners about Garcia, 27, who may be the best starter available on the trade market. Garcia is 3-3 with a 3.01 earned run average and 75-46 in his six-year career. Myers would give the Yankees a left-handed specialist who has had more recent success than Heredia or White. Myers, 34, has held left-handers to a .219 average in 25 games, and the official said the Yankees had inquired about him. The Yankees could be hindered in trades by their lack of major league-ready prospects. But Seattle needs a young catcher and has scouted the Yankees' top prospect, Dioner Navarro of Class AA, within the past two weeks. Garcia can be a free agent after this season, and one of his agents, Chris Leible, said he is open to re-signing with Seattle. But Garcia, who beat the Yankees twice in the 2000 American League Championship Series, would be unfazed by a trade. "I think Freddy can adapt to anything," Leible said. "With his makeup and ability, he will do well wherever he goes." Publicly, the Yankees are supporting Contreras, who has a 7.11 earned run average and failed to finish the first inning of his start on Wednesday. The Yankees are off Monday and could skip Contreras's next turn on Tuesday, but that is unlikely. "We'll keep working at it," Cashman said. "Two of his last three starts have been very good. Right now, we're concentrating on getting him back out there for his next start." For now, the Yankees will try to boost Contreras's confidence and make him believe he is the same pitcher who wowed them - and the Mariners - before joining the major leagues. . There were articles on the possability of it occuring on the net last year. I'm positive Luchino wouldn't allow through the trades Big George has been getting away with that he shouldn't. How 'bout that Schilling trade?
Guest Anglesault Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Less than an inning in, we've already heard a "Brown Out" and "Rogers Knows How to Hold 'em" I despise Michael Kay, and it wasn't even him.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 How 'bout that Schilling trade? The one where the Red Sox gave up 3 young pitchers and no cash?
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Luccino did such a fine job running the Padres and Red Sox that he'd make a great commissioner. Really. He'd have his head stuck so far up his ass we'd never even notice Selig was gone.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 He was instrumental in getting Camden Yards built. So long as the new commisioner sticks it to George I won't mind who it is.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Dear god, please send the Red Sox some pitching. The end
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 So long as the new commisioner sticks it to George I won't mind who it is. What exactly has Steinbrenner done wrong? I hate the Yankees, but they've done everything fair and square.
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