The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Or any of the other PPVs/shows missed in Dames' absence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Chris Coey has said he plans on reviewing WMXX in the upcoming CRUN-CH 62 review. Check it out when it drops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Also, he did the Royal Rumble and No Way Out in his last one. The only one that was missed was Backlash, and someone may have even covered that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 I've started reading Coey's work on WWE stuff (since I know nothing about Puro), and while it's way deeper than I've ever even tried to be while watching a match, it makes sense and has made me raise my own standards as far as actual match quality goes (different from entertainment factor). I'd venture that some wrestlers probably don't even put as much thought into their matches as he does. I look forward to his Wrestlemania XX review. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Sounds cool. His review of Hogan/Rock from WMXVIII was basically dead-on. Anyways, what ever happened to people covering the B-shows like Heat and Velocity? I'm up for doing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Anyways, what ever happened to people covering the B-shows like Heat and Velocity? I'm up for doing that. Two things: 1. They realized they were covering a crappy B-show and got tired of the lack of quality 2. They weren't getting enough feedback to make them happy Actually, #2 has happened to quite a few former TSM writers. I've always submitted that you're writing for the wrong reasons if you're writing for anyone besides yourself, but my words of wisdom went unheeded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Anyways, what ever happened to people covering the B-shows like Heat and Velocity? I'm up for doing that. Two things: 1. They realized they were covering a crappy B-show and got tired of the lack of quality 2. They weren't getting enough feedback to make them happy Actually, #2 has happened to quite a few former TSM writers. I've always submitted that you're writing for the wrong reasons if you're writing for anyone besides yourself, but my words of wisdom went unheeded. Let me cover Heat then, if nobody's doin' it. It will take me at least six weeks to realize that I'm covering a B-show and then get tired of the lack of quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 13, 2004 Rosey & Hurricane vs. The Bobagadush Brothers is only watchable so many times. Unless the PBP is off and you know the jobbers, then its OK. Damn Al Snow for the crappy joke! DAMN HIM TO HELL!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 ..so? You guys looking for someone to cover Heat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 You should do Heat & Velocity in 1 report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 I guess I could. Heatocity. No. Wait. VELOCITEAT. WWE reviews hitting your mother's breast at 110 miles an hour~! Only-- on TSM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 Send me a writing sample, CM. Review Heat (or another show) and either PM the review to me, or email to [email protected]. We'll take it from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted June 14, 2004 Tom Fowler was a badass bass player for Frank Zappa. Huh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 Sadly, it wasn't my dad. Though he does occasionally bust out the guitar, banjo, or ukalele. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted June 14, 2004 The Zappas tend to corner the market on stupid first names. What were they thinking when they named their daughter "Moonbeam"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 The Zappas tend to corner the market on stupid first names. What were they thinking when they named their daughter "Moonbeam"? Moon Unit, thank you. And then the other two guys, Ahmet and Dweezil. I don't know what Frank was thinking, but damned if I'm going to question the actions of a genius. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted June 15, 2004 A Wrestlemania XX review is featured in #62. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 And it's quite good. Kinda sucks that the memorable aspects of matches are totally invalidated in one's mind after the in-depth reasoning that shows why you shouldn't remember them, but still a great review. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted June 15, 2004 Elaborate, Kotz. What do you mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 Well, you get a special feeling when you think of certain matches. The Triple Threat at XX gave me that, as I thought it was the best three-way I'd ever seen (although granted, all I've seen are North American ones and was very underwhelmed by the supposed 2002 MOTY three-way), and the idea of Benoit finally trapping HHH and making him (FINALLY) give up his prized title by submitting after realizing there was no way out of losing makes me flutter a little, just by how well I thought it was all executed. After seeing someone go over it with a fine-toothed comb, it's lost some of its shine. It's kinda like when you really like a movie and think it's genius, but someone tells you all the crap that's wrong with it that you didn't see before through pure personal fandom. You don't look at it the same way, and sort of wish you'd never been educated. Still, thanks to Coey, I can more accurately rate match quality, but I don't think I'll ever be able to expand on why I rated it what I did as much as he can/does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 Dr. Tom, did you get my PM from yesterday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted June 15, 2004 After seeing someone go over it with a fine-toothed comb, it's lost some of its shine. It's kinda like when you really like a movie and think it's genius, but someone tells you all the crap that's wrong with it that you didn't see before through pure personal fandom. You don't look at it the same way, and sort of wish you'd never been educated. That may be the case BUT I prefer it that way. I am tired of reading net reports where every other match that has any positive aspect is given **** for the hell of it. If a match doesn't hold up after being drilled and dissected, it really doesn't deserve the praise or snowflakes that are given blindly. Critical analys is a great way to determine what the true classics and great matches really are. When you notice all of the flaws in a match, it makes a match like Jumbo-Tenryu or Jumbo-Funk or Misawa-Kawada stand out that much more. With that said, I don't think it takes away from Benoit's moment. When the match first aired, I marked out like every other Benoit fan. Then, when the DVD came out, I was ready to mark out again. I was really underwhelmed by the match when watching it on DVD but I was still happy for Benoit. I chalk this up to the "special moment" category, not the "special match" category. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted June 15, 2004 I agree entirely. For my money, Coey's reviews are probably the best on the net right now. You have to be that critical to really establish what's great and what's not. Pointing out all the storytelling flaws etc doesn't take anything away from any markout value of big wins or moments, but it does afford some perspective and objective judgement in assessing North American matches which is almost completely lacking in 99.9% of net reviews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2004 Dr. Tom, did you get my PM from yesterday? Yes. And considering I'm working ten-plus-hour days right now, and going to school, I'll get to it when I get to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dids Report post Posted June 17, 2004 I'll throw a vote in saying that Coey's reviews are fantastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2004 Dr. Tom, did you get my PM from yesterday? Yes. And considering I'm working ten-plus-hour days right now, and going to school, I'll get to it when I get to it. My bad. Well, your name's not "Hobo Tom" after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dazed Report post Posted June 17, 2004 Or any of the other PPVs/shows missed in Dames' absence? I'll be doing most (if not all) 2004 PPVs over the course of the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
