TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 I don't usually post in this folder, but I'm compelled to know. This is in the Torch newsletter according to 411wrestling.com Feud with Guerrero could be in the works.... WWE is considering turning The Undertaker heel, or at the least a tweener, so that he can feud with Eddie Guerrero over the WWE Title. If he does turn heel, he would likely continue his alliance with Paul Heyman and the Dudley Boys. He may play a tweener so that he can go back to being a face after the potential Guerrero program. If Taker squashes Eddie for another title run, SD! is as good as dead. Now if he puts Eddie over seriously, it will solidify him as a main eventer and be good for business. But tell me which is more likely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 I haven't been watching Smackdown much but havent' they been saying UT has been getting some of the bigger pops? Of course turning him heel may ruin that. UT isn't going to put anyone over but I'd rather him take the title than JBL. And hopefully Eddie can get it back at the end of the feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hektik 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 I always thought that Eddy/Taker should main event Summerslam. The only problem is that as long as he still is the deadman he will get a huge pop and will be cheered during his matches. In order for it to work for him as a heel, he would have to go back to MMA Biker Taker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted June 16, 2004 If they are gonna have UT take the title off Eddie for him to win it back later in a clean fashon......fine. If not, fuck him and keep UT as far away from that title that he should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superstring 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 Well I always thought Taker would end up winning it next, anyway a heel UT as a part of Team Heyman feuding with Eddie could be quite good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted June 16, 2004 So I take it Taker gets the title and then isn't feeling it when it comes time to job it back to Guerrero? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only The Strong Survive 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 Maybe Taker won't even get the title. That would make Eddy look very strong if they did that over the course of several main events. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted June 16, 2004 Right because the Undertaker has a million billion title reigns all lasting more than a hundred years each. JESUS PEOPLE with all the completely crappy options on Smackdown, I would thrill to see Eddie Guerrero face someone thats actually a main event opponent like the Undertaker, someone that could actually make the title sceeen worth watching again! But no, lets not do that because Undertaker will have too much offense or some such crap. Eddie-Undertaker is actually worth watch and the Undertaker would actually make for a threat that no one else on the roster could be right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted June 16, 2004 Basically Eddie's entire reign has been a feud with JBL. Yeah, that sucks. Smackdown is really low on starpower, and Eddie is in need of a real deal feud to take him to the next level. I think if UT really gave his all, this could be the absolute best thing for Smackdown right now. If he doesn't, well it can't really get any worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Corino 1000 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 I honestly think Eddies title reign is stating to suck! I would probally want for Eddie to job the title to Cena after he turns heel. anything to keep take from the title! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 16, 2004 Right because the Undertaker has a million billion title reigns all lasting more than a hundred years each. Gotta love Sarcasm! (edited post) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claydude14 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 They could feud Face-Face like Taker and Austin did going into Summerslam 98. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 If they try to go face/face though, the vast majority of the crowd will be with Taker. Eddie's actually lost a lot of his support with this dreadfully boring JBL feud. Just seeing someone fresh shake up the main event picture will be enough to get Taker huge pops if he wins the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 Well, Undertaker did put over Austin at SummerSlam 98. I have hope for Eddie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous K89 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 Taker doesn't get enough props about putting people over. You people act like if it wasn't for HHH, Taker would be the Anti-Christ. Consider these two things: 1. Taker put over Brock in the HIAC and Taker was the one that cemented Lesnar in stone that he was worthy of the WWE championship. After that feud with Taker, Brock started getting face pops even though he was heel. Taker, even though he won, he put over Jeff Hardy immensely in their ladder match. He put over Austin at Summerslam. While it may not seem like it, Cena's feud with Taker really helped Cena out a lot. When it is time to do business, Taker is a business man and will do the right thing. 2. Ever since Taker came back as the Deadman, he hasn't been squashing anybody outside of jobbers. If you say that he squashed Booker, then you're an idiot. Their last match, and from what I hear at Judgement Day, were both competitive matches. Yeah, he squashed Booker at house shows, but house shows are irrelevant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 16, 2004 (edited) Taker doesn't get enough props about putting people over. You people act like if it wasn't for HHH, Taker would be the Anti-Christ. Consider these two things: 1. Taker put over Brock in the HIAC and Taker was the one that cemented Lesnar in stone that he was worthy of the WWE championship. Taker has done FAR more to hurt Brock than help him. I firmly believe he was justified in refusing to job at Unforgiven, but the No Mercy 03 disaster and the next SD! absolutely destroyed whatever good he did for him. Maybe Taker won't even get the title. That would make Eddy look very strong if they did that over the course of several main events. It would make Undertaker look like a total fool. Edited June 16, 2004 by Anglesault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hektik 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 1. Taker put over Brock in the HIAC and Taker was the one that cemented Lesnar in stone that he was worthy of the WWE championship. After that feud with Taker, Brock started getting face pops even though he was heel. Taker, even though he won, he put over Jeff Hardy immensely in their ladder match. He put over Austin at Summerslam. While it may not seem like it, Cena's feud with Taker really helped Cena out a lot. When it is time to do business, Taker is a business man and will do the right thing. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Taker beat both Brock and Big Show in a handicap match to build him up for Vince McMahon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 I don't usually post in this folder, but I'm compelled to know. This is in the Torch newsletter according to 411wrestling.com Feud with Guerrero could be in the works.... WWE is considering turning The Undertaker heel, or at the least a tweener, so that he can feud with Eddie Guerrero over the WWE Title. If he does turn heel, he would likely continue his alliance with Paul Heyman and the Dudley Boys. He may play a tweener so that he can go back to being a face after the potential Guerrero program. If Taker squashes Eddie for another title run, SD! is as good as dead. Now if he puts Eddie over seriously, it will solidify him as a main eventer and be good for business. But tell me which is more likely? gotta love the Gloom and Doom Apocalyptic View of a Taker hater... If Undertaker wins the title...... Bah Gawd Smackdown will be destroyed totally. More so than a once serious males title for light weight wrestlers be belittled and given to Jackie or a mostly retired wrestler whom is now fired... More so than the change in GM's from an effective Heel Official to a recovering wrestler who looks like the combination of Professioner X and Lex Luthar. More So than the Current World contender's ideas in pushing his point of being the Bad guy goes beyond the Norms of Heel good tastes in how they make themselves booed.. If the Undertaker Wins.... SNIFF SNIFF its the end of the world as we know it.... But I feel fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 Taker doesn't get enough props about putting people over. You people act like if it wasn't for HHH, Taker would be the Anti-Christ. Consider these two things: 1. Taker put over Brock in the HIAC and Taker was the one that cemented Lesnar in stone that he was worthy of the WWE championship. After that feud with Taker, Brock started getting face pops even though he was heel. Taker, even though he won, he put over Jeff Hardy immensely in their ladder match. He put over Austin at Summerslam. While it may not seem like it, Cena's feud with Taker really helped Cena out a lot. When it is time to do business, Taker is a business man and will do the right thing. 2. Ever since Taker came back as the Deadman, he hasn't been squashing anybody outside of jobbers. If you say that he squashed Booker, then you're an idiot. Their last match, and from what I hear at Judgement Day, were both competitive matches. Yeah, he squashed Booker at house shows, but house shows are irrelevant. So you're admitting you haven't seen the JD match, but then commenting on it? How do you know Taker didn't squash Booker, you haven't seen it. I don't think Taker squashed Book, but he certainly didn't help him. Taker didn't cement Brock as a top liner. Beating Rock, Hogan and Flair helped do that. He was already a main eventer before the Taker feud. Keep in mind Taker came out the very next SD and said he would have beat Brock if he was younger. Plus, Brock was already getting face pops before the feud with Taker. And, after the Taker feud, Brock wasn't a heel. The feud with Taker turned him face. He put over Austin at SummerSlam? What 6 years ago? Against the biggest star in the company? Gee, what a company man. So he should job the biggest star around. Jeff Hardy was wrestling for the European Title at Vengance, a month or so after his World Title Match with Taker. How it elevated or helped him I can't fathom. After jobbing to Taker, he moved on to Regal. Real elevation there. But wait, Taker tapped him on the ribs. RESPECT. I'm shocked Jeff Hardy never went on to become a main event player after that. How did his feud with Cena elevate Cena? At Vengeance Taker MURDERED Cena for 7 minutes with Cena getting in ZERO offense. He had Cena BEAT but picked him up at 2. Then he got broken ribs. He was spitting up blood. And yet, he kicked out of Cen'as finisher. He kicked out of a chain shot to the ribs. Then got the clean win. What a guy. 2 weeks later on SmackDown!, he had Cena pinned when the ref was bumped. Cena needed A-Train's interference to help him get the win. But that's not what matters. What matters is that Undertaker had a match at SummerSlam. John Cena didn't. Where is the elevation? From all that you would think I hate Taker. I actually don't. I think (unless Angle comes back, Cena turns heel or they push Booker) that having Taker turn heel to feud with Eddie would be a good idea. Just so long as Eddie beats Taker on his own, gets elevated, and they don't bury Eddie in the process. No Taker getting the belt for a few months, no exchanging wins on ppv. Just have Taker seem unbeatable up until Survivor Series. Have the Eddie feud begin around SummerSlam. After a long feud, Eddie beats Taker at SurSer. Taker turns face again the next week, Eddie's still champ, everybody wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 16, 2004 1. Taker put over Brock in the HIAC and Taker was the one that cemented Lesnar in stone that he was worthy of the WWE championship. After that feud with Taker, Brock started getting face pops even though he was heel. Taker, even though he won, he put over Jeff Hardy immensely in their ladder match. He put over Austin at Summerslam. While it may not seem like it, Cena's feud with Taker really helped Cena out a lot. When it is time to do business, Taker is a business man and will do the right thing. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Taker beat both Brock and Big Show in a handicap match to build him up for Vince McMahon. Two or three times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 I think it was at least 4. He pinned both guys, he got a dq win and he got a countout win. I may be missing one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2004 Im all for it. Its about time Eddie had another opponent which actually has some credability unlike JBL or The Bashams who hes been wrestling non stop on Smackdown lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 17, 2004 I hotta be honest. I don't LIKE the present work of the Undertaker --- but I don't see him REFUSING to job if asked. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2004 How did his feud with Cena elevate Cena? At Vengeance Taker MURDERED Cena for 7 minutes with Cena getting in ZERO offense. He had Cena BEAT but picked him up at 2. Then he got broken ribs. He was spitting up blood. And yet, he kicked out of Cen'as finisher. He kicked out of a chain shot to the ribs. Then got the clean win. What a guy. 2 weeks later on SmackDown!, he had Cena pinned when the ref was bumped. Cena needed A-Train's interference to help him get the win. But that's not what matters. What matters is that Undertaker had a match at SummerSlam. John Cena didn't. Where is the elevation? I didn't like the booking of the match either, but it was the feud with Undertaker that got fans to begin to like Cena. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 17, 2004 If 'Taker is a tweener, or heel even, him getting a title feud/run will help ratings. It'd be interesting to see. But I can't see him going over Eddy in a squash, considering that both of his matches with Booker T were taken seriously. Yet his match with Kane was almost, if not a squash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 17, 2004 Well I always thought Taker would end up winning it next, anyway a heel UT as a part of Team Heyman feuding with Eddie could be quite good. Yeah except for the whole Not able to wrestle worth a fuck thing anymore, I'm expecting great things from Taker! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prime Time Andrew Doyle 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2004 I don't think putting The Undertaker back in the World Title picture will help. Deadman or not, he is through, and giving him another run at the belt is not a smart move. He should have retired after WMXX, instead of keeping on. He is not getting any younger, yet he continues holding onto a top spot. In any other sport, when a guy gets to old, he will be cut or released. With all this talk of McMahon being such a ruthless buisnessman, he should live up to his reputation and tell the Taker that his time is up. He has not really shown a willingness to help put over younger guys and is buying into his own hype, refusing to step down.For the SD! World title, put somebody like Booker in there, who is experienced, yet is still some sort of fresh face on SD! Or try and bring some in grown talent like what was done with Randy Orton on Raw. When times are tough like this, they dont need to go back to the old faces who hleped in the past. They realised it with Austin, they need to do the same with UT. Any short term gain needs to be weighed up against the potential long term loss that could happen by pushing UT rather than a new talent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2004 Problem is, Vince is said to be a huge fan of the Undertaker gimmick, and Taker himself, so I don't see him kicking Taker to the curb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted June 17, 2004 I hotta be honest. I don't LIKE the present work of the Undertaker --- but I don't see him REFUSING to job if asked. -=Mike Who was the last person that UT legitimately put over clean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted June 17, 2004 Oh who cares anymore geez So much hate... WHO did the Taker put over clean 6 months again so we can bitch about it 6 months later... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
