Which one of these guys Gets a Dvd release first ?

[Guest glennsoe]

Ok.....just to check out the mood of the smartmarks this lovely Sunday night (Norwegian timezone)..

 

Of all of these guys listed next...Which ine do you think will get a "Dvd release" first ???

 

* Eugene

* JBL

* "The cruiser weight division"

* Billy Gunn

* Big Show

* Hardcore Holly

* Batista

* Randy Orton

* Booker T

* Rico

* Mordecai

* RVD

 

Sadly i think that Eugene will get the first one of these guys listed here....What do you think ?

[razazteca 0]

Big Show or RVD.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Randy Orton...easy.

 

 

Eugene is the only one who even has a shot.

[SuperJerk 0]

RVD, then Orton, then Eugene.

[Guest Choken One]

I am getting sick of people like Glensoe and IB re-creating the same threads we have already went on and one about and that can still be found on the second page.

 

It's like these fuckign retards think "well if it isn't on the first page, then no one must have talked about it before"...

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Billy Gunn & HArdcore Holly: Failures Of The Squared Circle

[Guest Rrrsh]

I am getting sick of people like Glensoe and IB re-creating the same threads we have already went on and one about and that can still be found on the second page.

 

It's like these fuckign retards think "well if it isn't on the first page, then no one must have talked about it before"...

Your funny.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

I am getting sick of people like Glensoe and IB re-creating the same threads we have already went on and one about and that can still be found on the second page.

 

It's like these fuckign retards think "well if it isn't on the first page, then no one must have talked about it before"...

Already there, buddy. That's annoyed me for a long time. You'd get a "hot" news item and at least three threads about it pop up within an hour, with their creators saying stuff like "I swear I didn't see an existing thread when I looked for one!" when it's only 4th from the top. Bullshit, you didn't even look.

 

To answer the question though, Orton. It's an inevitability, like death and taxes.

[caboose 0]

Without looking carefully, I always think HBK's arm is seriously fucked up in Rrrsh's sig.

[tbondrage99 0]

Orton will get one first, followed by RVD, and then if hes lucky The Big Show.

 

Its Saddens me to think RVDs DVD will peobally only have half a dozen of his ECW matches, and then everything else WWE even though its not his best work

[Guest Trivia247]

we are forgetting the one DVD that will single handedly spark interest in the wrestling medium.

 

The one DVD about the wrestler, who's following was so huge it left wrestling with him when he retired...

 

The one DVD that once it is even Mentioned it will sell out months ahead of its release...

 

What one DVD am I talking about????

 

 

The DVD of... HAKU! HAKUMANIA RUNNING WILD!

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

The DVD of... HAKU! HAKUMANIA RUNNING WILD!

Sad thing is I could think of more good Haku matches than I can for anybody up there barring maybe Booker.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Randy would kill Booker on a battle of good matches. And the Crusier divison would destroy Booker.

[CanadianChick 0]

I think this is more appropriate for the Polls and List Folder, so there is goes.

[Dark Age 0]

Randy would kill Booker on a battle of good matches. And the Crusier divison would destroy Booker.

 

Erm... no. You're talking out of your ass. Please show me all the Randy Orton matches that would 'kill Booker in a battle of good matches'.

[CanadianChick 0]

Randy would kill Booker on a battle of good matches. And the Crusier divison would destroy Booker.

 

Erm... no. You're talking out of your ass. Please show me all the Randy Orton matches that would 'kill Booker in a battle of good matches'.

Because Booker T isn't very good? Yeah, that seems like a good enough reason for me.

[Dark Age 0]

And Randy Orton's an outstanding wrestler? The argument is not about Booker or Orton being good/bad. It's about who has had the better matches. And really, CC, do you believe that Randy Orton's best matches (Foley) are better than Booker's (Benoit)?

[Guest Rrrsh]

BookerT/Benoit is SO overrated its not even funny. They were good, the concept was great, but Benoit has had about 50 better matches in North America. Randy had a GREAT match with Foley, has been pasrt of some very good Tag Matches recently, and was part of 2 of the best "Elimination" matches WWE has ever had.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Orton vs Foley is extreamly overrated and Booker at his peak is definitely better than Orton. Booker has a larger and better arsenal of moves, more inring charisma, signifigantly better execution (this alone puts him over Orton) and a better sense of what he's doing in the ring.

[tekcop 0]

Booker has a larger and better arsenal of moves, more inring charisma, signifigantly better execution...

I'd consider those as Booker's weakest points. Most of his offense revolves around weak looking kicks that even RVD does better, he's very bland in the ring and doesn't really have anything that sets him apart from anyone else on the roster, and most of his moves are sloppy looking.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Booker has a larger and better arsenal of moves, more inring charisma, signifigantly better execution...

I'd consider those as Booker's weakest points. Most of his offense revolves around weak looking kicks that even RVD does better, he's very bland in the ring and doesn't really have anything that sets him apart from anyone else on the roster, and most of his moves are sloppy looking.

Woah, that's where I disagree. Booker's kicks look good (especially when Benoit or Finaly are taking them) and are better looking than RVD's kicks. Keep in mind I haven't seen Booker lately but the flying forearm is one of the best looking moves in wrestling, the missile dropkick is real nice and basically just everything he does looks natural. He doesn't look like he's out of place when he's in the ring like so many of the younger WWE superstars do. Booker doesn't really have to be protected by the annoying WWE camera swithches while say Orton and some others do. If you watched Booker and compared to him RVD and Orton as far as strikes go on a live card without camera tricks I believe this would become even more apparent.

[Guest Ray]

I'm starting to think Rrrsh is a gimmick poster.

 

 

 

Anyway, Booker's best > Orton's best.

 

Case closed.

[CanadianChick 0]

I'm starting to think Rrrsh is a gimmick poster.

 

 

 

Anyway, Booker's best > Orton's best.

 

Case closed.

Other than Benoit, though, what is Booker's best?

 

I personally find him boring in the ring. Nothing he does really holds my attention. He's just....there.

[Guest Ray]

vs. Austin, the 1/02 Smackdown match no one remembers but me...

[Scroby 0]

* Eugene- Maybe in a year time since he's still pretty much new

* JBL- If one was made, Flop!

* "The cruiser weight division"- Wouldn't happen unless WCW matches were on it

* Billy Gunn- Why?

* Big Show- Maybe

* Hardcore Holly- Why?

* Batista- Not for awhile

* Randy Orton- Maybe

* Booker T - Be nice

* Rico- Highly doubt it

* Mordecai- Yeah a dvd full of promo's

* RVD- Most likely

 

So Orton and RVD would be the only two really getting a DVD, maybe RVD will get one if he sticks around longer.

[Guest wildpegasus]

I'm starting to think Rrrsh is a gimmick poster.

 

 

 

Anyway, Booker's best > Orton's best.

 

Case closed.

Other than Benoit, though, what is Booker's best?

 

I personally find him boring in the ring. Nothing he does really holds my attention. He's just....there.

I couldn't give any dates but I know Booker and Jericho meshed well together on Nitro. He also had some nice Nitro TV title defences. From memory this is what I think would be some of Booker's best matches:

 

Series against Benoit

Series against Hart

Matches against Jericho

Matches against Big Show

Matches against HHH

Matches against Angle

Matche (s?) against Martel

Last match agaisnt Eddie Guerrero on Smackdown

[Dark Age 0]

I'm starting to think Rrrsh is a gimmick poster.

 

 

 

Anyway, Booker's best > Orton's best.

 

Case closed.

Other than Benoit, though, what is Booker's best?

 

I personally find him boring in the ring. Nothing he does really holds my attention. He's just....there.

Alot of Booker's WCW stuff is really under-rated and over looked. The Benoit matches I have already mentioned, but for some other examples, watch Superbrawl 98 where Booker has two really good matches with two completely different types of wrestler (Saturn and Martel). Booker goes nearly 30 minutes in those two matches combined (right after each other as well) and puts in a great performance in both. Watch Souled Out 98 when Booker and Martel have an excellent match. A match that smokes everything that Orton has done. More 98 stuff from Booker, as he had another good match, this time with Eddie at Uncensored. Spring Stampede features a decent match with Benoit, but it's probably the worst match they had. GAB, he has a GREAT match with Benoit, way better than anything Orton has ever done. He also has a pretty good match on that show with Finlay.

 

In 99, he had a very good match with Disco Inferno at Superbrawl. DISCO INFERNO. Uncensored, he had another good match, this time with Steiner. Keep in mind Steiner was complete garbage at this point. Spring Stampede, another damn good match with Steiner. No one got better out of Steiner than Booker. Then they put him back with Stevie Ray, but whatever.

 

In 2000, he had a decent match with Sting (who as death for anyone who wanted a decent match at that point) at Spring Stampede. Bash At The Beach he had a good match with Kanyon, and then a really good match with Jeff Jarrett. New Blood Rising, another good match with Jarrett. Mayhem, he had another good match with Steiner.

 

Away from that, watch the Uncensored 96 match when Booker teams with Sting to face L.O.D in a street fight. The match drags about and is too long at 30 mins, but Booker carries the three of them on his back to make the match decent. This was before he was a singles wrestler, and the other guys were still 'ok' as opposed to 'complete crap'. Yet, Booker is easily the star of the match. At Hog Wild he does the same as he does everything possible to carry the load in a match with the Steiners. He somehow manages to make it decent.

 

I can't remember much of his Nitro and Thunder stuff but there is alot of good stuff buried in there.

 

Booker's WWE work hasn't been that good since the match with Triple H at Mania last year, but then he hasn't really had the chance to show it. After that, he was stuck in a dead end feud with Christian, then he was out injured for a few months, then he had a feud with Mark Henry, then tagging with RVD, then a feud with Taker. Doesn't exactly let him have ***1/2 matches every week does it? Compare that to Orton who is wrestling Foley, Benoit, Shelton, Edge and Jericho week after week. I would say it's obvious who is more likely to have the better series of matches judging from that.

 

Back to Mania. Watch his match with H. Trips is blown up, like, 3 minutes in. Booker COMPLETELY carries him through the rest of the match. His selling is great, he times his comebacks well, and all his spots look clean and crisp. What's more, he got the best non gimmick match out of Triple H since his return a year earlier. That's not saying much, but their match was better than H's matches with RVD, Kane, Jericho, Hogan, Taker and Steiner. I'd even say it was better than the matches Trips had with Angle a year earlier.

 

Prior to that, he was used in a tag team. So it's hard to compare that work to Orton's. However, the tag matches he was involved in where better than any matches they had on Raw in a long time. Between Slam and Rumble he barely wrestled a meaningful singles match. Before that, he got an entertaining match out of Big Show at Vengeance, and had a couple of fun, but quick, matches with Benoit and Eddie. Booker's match with Edge at Mania was MUCH better than Orton's match with Edge a couple of weeks ago. Of course, this was Edge before he got injured, but still. The Mania match only got about 8 minutes compared to the 18 the Raw match a couple of weeks ago got, yet it was still bags of fun. He also had a really fun match with Matt Hardy at Rebellion in 02. Better than any non gimmick matches Orton has had.

 

Go back and watch Booker when he first debuted during the InVasion. He had some really good matches with Angle, Jericho and Rock. Better than all of Orton's matches by far, with the Foley match as the possible exception. If we are going to take into account all the tag matches Orton has been in lately, which make up a majority of his good matches, then we have to take Booker's as well. The 6 man tag with the Dudleys against Angle and Edge and Christian(?) I recall being very entertaining. Watch the match where Booker regains the WCW title from Angle. Insanely hot match. The match where Angle wins the title is even better. Both are far better than anything Orton has done. And they didn't need a gimmick. In fact, throw in the Booker/Angle match from the show when WCW turned heel, as that was also great. Or how about the Rock/Jericho vs Booker/Rhyno match which was also very good fun.

[Guest Rrrsh]

I am far from a gimmick poster. Booker is just liek Christian to me...boring.

 

Its that simple

[Guest Rrrsh]

Alot of Booker's WCW stuff is really under-rated and over looked. The Benoit matches I have already mentioned, but for some other examples, watch Superbrawl 98 where Booker has two really good matches with two completely different types of wrestler (Saturn and Martel). Booker goes nearly 30 minutes in those two matches combined (right after each other as well) and puts in a great performance in both. Watch Souled Out 98 when Booker and Martel have an excellent match. A match that smokes everything that Orton has done. More 98 stuff from Booker, as he had another good match, this time with Eddie at Uncensored. Spring Stampede features a decent match with Benoit, but it's probably the worst match they had. GAB, he has a GREAT match with Benoit, way better than anything Orton has ever done. He also has a pretty good match on that show with Finlay.

 

I competly disagree. His match with Eddy was good, but his Finely,Saturn and Martel matvches were meaningless filler with no point and story. The matches were way to slow and lacked any excitment and energy.

 

 

 

Booker's WWE work hasn't been that good since the match with Triple H at Mania last year, but then he hasn't really had the chance to show it. After that, he was stuck in a dead end feud with Christian, then he was out injured for a few months, then he had a feud with Mark Henry, then tagging with RVD, then a feud with Taker. Doesn't exactly let him have ***1/2 matches every week does it? Compare that to Orton who is wrestling Foley, Benoit, Shelton, Edge and Jericho week after week. I would say it's obvious who is more likely to have the better series of matches judging from that.

 

 

You can match oppenent for oppenent all you want. The bottom line is Booker T garners no excitment at all. He is lazy, he is complacent and he is BORING. Randy Orton is hard-working, exciting and that farthest thing from boring in the ring.

[Dark Age 0]

Whatever. It's obvious you have a very different taste in wrestling than myself as proven by your hate for Austin, Booker and a few others. It also seems you like to judge a wrestler's entire variety of matches on one match, as noted by your analysis of an Austin match. Therefore, it would be pointless for me to continue arguing with you.