Guest Duncan Eternia Report post Posted June 22, 2004 I was surprised to see how the Lita-Kane-Matt angle got over with the live crowd. Question is what should be done with Matt? I had the idea while watching to have Matt kind of turn his back on everyone and become the loner/outcast guy, ala Raven. Maybe have him do the same kind of cryptic promos Raven did a few years ago. Just an idea, please respond or share your own. Maybe this angle is what Mat needs to get a real shot to be a player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Yes, then he can throw a lot of big words and "deep metaphors" into his promos so he'll become just as overrated. Gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Duncan Eternia Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Yes, then he can throw a lot of big words and "deep metaphors" into his promos so he'll become just as overrated. Gold. Good point. Of course, Mat would be different than Raven. I just think Matt needs a new look and a more intense gimmick. Although when the creative guys allowed it Matt's V1 stuff was decent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 22, 2004 They can't turn Matt heel. The crowd (at least tonight) is so anti-Lita on this angle (and rightfully so) that it almost turned Kane face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Duncan Eternia Report post Posted June 22, 2004 They can't turn Matt heel. The crowd (at least tonight) is so anti-Lita on this angle (and rightfully so) that it almost turned Kane face. Not really turn him heel...just have him become some kind of loner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 They can't turn Matt heel. The crowd (at least tonight) is so anti-Lita on this angle (and rightfully so) that it almost turned Kane face. Uh, what? Are you sure the crowd was booing Lita? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 That was really bizarre about how Kane got the face pop and Lita got booed, well she was skanky after all. I see this as a way for Matt to get all dejected and angry and viscious, only to bring in Jeff to balance him out. I still have no clue where this angle is going to go though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Part of the crowd always boos marriage proposals and mushy soap-opera stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 They can't turn Matt heel. The crowd (at least tonight) is so anti-Lita on this angle (and rightfully so) that it almost turned Kane face. Uh, what? Are you sure the crowd was booing Lita? I'm pretty sure they were. Matt was the only one who came out of that whole segment as being sympathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Kane cannot be denied face pops. He gets them almost every week no matter what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 If they really wanted to make Lita be booed, have Kane reveal that he was joking and didn't think she'd go all the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 22, 2004 They can't turn Matt heel. The crowd (at least tonight) is so anti-Lita on this angle (and rightfully so) that it almost turned Kane face. Uh, what? Are you sure the crowd was booing Lita? They were yelling "slut" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Like I said, a good bit of the crowd always boos this kind of stuff. Doesn't help that WWE fans have been trained to be mysoginistic assholes for the most part either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Alright, I guess I wasn't really paying attention. Anyways, next week, Matt will say that he'll stick by Lita no matter what, blah, blah, blah. They'll be all lovey-dovey, and Kane will come out and kill Hardy or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Like I said, a good bit of the crowd always boos this kind of stuff. Doesn't help that WWE fans have been trained to be mysoginistic assholes for the most part either. Oh, come now. No guy wants to hear that his girlfriend (and new fiance) is a tramp. And they especially never want to hear "well, it COULD be yours..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Like I said, a good bit of the crowd always boos this kind of stuff. Doesn't help that WWE fans have been trained to be mysoginistic assholes for the most part either. Oh, come now. No guy wants to hear that his girlfriend (and new fiance) is a tramp. And they especially never want to hear "well, it COULD be yours..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 The idea is that Lita is a sympathetic character because she did it to keep her boyfriend from being "destroyed." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Still a slut. I guess she magically forgot Matt scrambled whatever was left of her brains in the cage match vs. Victoria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 How does that makes her a slut? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 22, 2004 How does that makes her a slut? ::sigh:: Women. They just don't understand how this works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Woman has sex with a man to keep that man from exacting extreme harm upon the man she loves (and is presumably having sex with also) = Slut. Man does same thing = P-i-m-p Pimp. Is that right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 22, 2004 How does that makes her a slut? Well, we found out it was unprotected sex with KANE...for no reason...except to "Save Matt". Wait, you're right, it's not her fault. It's Matt's fault. He's a weak loser who can't fight off Kane without his woman sleeping with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Let's say your girlfriend could prevent you from being destroyed. You'd rather her do nothing? I can see where they are going, but the execution sucked. Especially the "it COULD be yours" line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 22, 2004 ....so it's OK for me to bully some wimp a foot shorter and 100 pounds lighter than me into letting me fuck his girlfriend? DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Woman has sex with a man to keep that man from exacting extreme harm upon the man she loves (and is presumably having sex with also) = Slut. I prefer tramp. Let's say your girlfriend could prevent you from being destroyed. You'd rather her do nothing? I'd rather the whole world not know that my girl has been impregnated by another guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Let's say your girlfriend could prevent you from being destroyed. You'd rather her do nothing? I might have been OK with a blowjob, but going all the way? I'd rather die than hear that, and I'm sure that would hold true with Matt Hardy as well. But I was thinking three things during that segment. 1. Why doesn't Matt just backhand the bitch? Not that I'd normally condone that kind of thing, but I'd be PISSED. 2. Since Mae Young's hand needs a playmate, will Lita give birth to a Mr. Potato Head? 3. If it is indeed Kane's baby, it needs to have one eyebrow and breathe fire and stuff like it's Satan's spawn or something. OK, I'm joking on those last two, but my suspension of disbelief is already shot to hell after seeing Stacy Keibler walk toward the camera and ignore it when she was talking to Matt only moments earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 22, 2004 1. Why doesn't Matt just backhand the bitch? Not that I'd normally condone that kind of thing, but I'd be PISSED. Well this will just open all the people with a 4th grade education to go "HAW! AUSTIN BEATS HIS WIFE TWO! HAW!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 22, 2004 But I was thinking three things during that segment. 1. Why doesn't Matt just backhand the bitch? Not that I'd normally condone that kind of thing, but I'd be PISSED. I wouldn't hit the bitch, but if she wanted to keep any of her shit, she'd best get home before me. Anything that looked like it might be of some value to her would be ripped, smashed or crushed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 was so waiting for Matt to Snap and just Beat down Lita then Kane comes out and make a Heelish/Tweener save of the Mother of his Demonseed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 22, 2004 I don't think I've ever gotten pissed on THAT level, but last time I did I left a hole in the wall the shape of my fist. So see, don't hit people...hit walls. Plus you won't get sued in court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
