kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Oh ya, I'm a democrat. And you wanted to join my kkk-lub... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 What's unfortunate is that it's the right that generally wants to get tough on crime, which is fine and dandy, but when these people get out of prison, these same people on the right don't want them employed anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted June 28, 2004 And anybody for bets that some of them were in jail for some rather nasty offenses? AP article said sex offenders, but that could be as vague as hitting the jailbait, not necessarily forcing himself on children or violating Grandma. Jesus Christ, when the hell did libs become so willing to sell their souls to oust a President? Do you know how fucking, well, EVIL you are sounding here? "Yeah, he was arrested for sex offenses, but it could've been something minor". SO FUCKING WHAT? Why the FUCK is a sex offender DOING THIS WORK ANYWAY? Do you have no soul? ...Hell, the jailbait cocktease was probably asking for it anyway, right? I don't have a problem if a 19 year old and a 17 year old have sex, thank you. Let me know when we get to the obscene age differences and we can talk. Well, I hope Kerry's election is enough to make this bastardization of any sense of morals you once possessed worth it. -=Mike That's an interesting turn of phrase, Mike. I can bring up one example of that from the GOP side with just two words: Monica Lewinsky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 28, 2004 SO FUCKING WHAT? Why the FUCK is a sex offender DOING THIS WORK ANYWAY? Do you have no soul? get off your high horse you pompous jackass. All Jobber and I are saying is that we DON'T have all the facts. We're not defending anyone who commited child rape. but there's no proof that he has or did. He's not neccasarily one of ex-cons who were sex offenders originally. I've already shown that the crime he's accused of now can be applied to numerous things things that don't involve rape. But you insist that he's evil and that we're evil for questioning your rhetoric. It's pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 28, 2004 What's unfortunate is that it's the right that generally wants to get tough on crime, which is fine and dandy, but when these people get out of prison, these same people on the right don't want them employed anywhere. We want them employed. There are jobs they shouldn't be permitted to do, though. I wouldn't allow an embezzler to work for a bank. That's an interesting turn of phrase, Mike. I can bring up one example of that from the GOP side with just two words: Monica Lewinsky I suppose you'll be supplying a point to this at some point. get off your high horse you pompous jackass. Then stop being so willing to sacrifice children so your fucking man can get elected, you fucking moron. All Jobber and I are saying is that we DON'T have all the facts. Hmm, ex-cons, including some with sex offenses, are doing work for DEMOCRATIC groups. Oh, but they could have been nailed for the NOT-TOO-BAD sexual offenses. Women's rights --- yup, the left is ALL about that. We're not defending anyone who commited child rape. but there's no proof that he has or did. Yup, I'm sure they'll send him up the river for "endangering a child" over nothing. Of course. Happens ALL of the time. He's not neccasarily one of ex-cons who were sex offenders originally. And IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER. I've already shown that the crime he's accused of now can be applied to numerous things things that don't involve rape. Yup. Because people who support Dems don't do the bad things. NEVER happens. But you insist that he's evil and that we're evil for questioning your rhetoric. It's pathetic. No, you're fucking evil for deciding that it's MORE important to protect Kerry than to protect the public-at-large, you simpering shitbag. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 How much are you willing to bet that ACT's character judgements about the convicted criminals they hired were accurate? Do you have any sisters? How about their lives? How about a mother, do you have a mother? How about hers? Former felons have worked door-to-door jobs in sales. And then they're actually handling money, too. Former felons often get jobs working in call centers, where they take people's personal information. None of this is anything new. It just never had an AP story attatched to it BECAUSE THEN IT HAD NO POLITICAL RELEVANCE. So, feeding the hungry is morally equivalent to sending rapists, child abusers, murderers and professional thieves Give me a break. You don't even know what charges most of the hires were convicted on. Like I said, it could be as simple as drug posession for marijuana. into unsuspecting communities, and giving these convicted criminals a license to knock on doors, enter homes, and ask for personal information, including names, telephone numbers, Door-to-door sales. Social Security numbers, and driver's licenses. Huh. What kind of fraud can you commit with a PARTIAL social security number? And I'm sorry, but don't you see anything even slightly wrong with this? Nothing wrong with these people trying to become part of society again, no. You don't give a professional burglar the opportunity to case half a hundred houses a day. You don't send a child rapist to collate demographics. You don't send out murderers to visit a family and get their personal information. All these non-violent people could be murdering your children if you aren't careful. This isn't rocket science. Give them jobs? Sure. Turn them loose with what (for some Democrats, at least) practically amounts to a mandate to inquire into the personal lives of entire communities? You keep talking about what a horrible, horrible thing it is. And I keep talking about how they've been doing this in non-political entities for a long time now, from churches to businesses, and haven't had this problem. And yet, somehow, Point A never really connects to Point B. I hate George Soros and I think he's an unprincipled piece of shit, but I'd rather have him in my living room than Charles Manson. Charles Manson and Jeffery Dahmer don't really sound like "nonviolent" to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Kerry? I don't give two shits about Kerry. I'm Canadian you idiot. I think they're both idiots. When the Dems do something bad I'm ready to jump all over them too. It's wrong for them to hire people guilty of sex crimes. but you still don't have any proof that this man commited a SEX crime. the statute has many different things he could have done to qualify for endagering a child Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Kerry? I don't give two shits about Kerry. I'm Canadian you idiot. I think they're both idiots. When the Dems do something bad I'm ready to jump all over them too. It's wrong for them to hire people guilty of sex crimes. but you still don't have any proof that this man commited a SEX crime. the statute has many different things he could have done to qualify for endagering a child Jesus Christ, what the fuck do you think they nailed them for? And, I suppose NON-SEXUAL endangering of children is just peachy. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted June 28, 2004 That's an interesting turn of phrase, Mike. I can bring up one example of that from the GOP side with just two words: Monica Lewinsky I suppose you'll be supplying a point to this at some point. Go back and read the bolded section of your quote in my last post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Jesus Christ, when the hell did libs become so willing to sell their souls to oust a President? Do you know how fucking, well, EVIL you are sounding here? "Yeah, he was arrested for sex offenses, but it could've been something minor". Do you realize how much like a chicken little you sound like right now? THESE NON VIOLENT DRUG OFFENDERS ARE CLEARLY LOOKING FOR YOUR JEWELS AND FEELING UP YOUR CHILDREN. GOOD LORD! SO FUCKING WHAT? Why the FUCK is a sex offender DOING THIS WORK ANYWAY? Making a bad decision 15 years ago doesn't make you completely incompetant to handle money or information. Well, I hope Kerry's election is enough to make this bastardization of any sense of morals you once possessed worth it. -=Mike Guess what, Mike. Some of us don't care if someone makes a small potatoes infraction of the law. Some of us don't find it any hideous if a 17 and 19 year old make with the sex than if two 18 year olds did it. And if they did, some of us don't think they're subhuman scum because of it just because the law said this or that. Some of us have more sense. Now, you can go back to being afraid of the guy knocking on your door to sell magazines. He might have been convicted of stealing cable, after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Go back and read the bolded section of your quote in my last post. I did. You still need to supply an ACTUAL point. Do you realize how much like a chicken little you sound like right now? THESE NON VIOLENT DRUG OFFENDERS ARE CLEARLY LOOKING FOR YOUR JEWELS AND FEELING UP YOUR CHILDREN. GOOD LORD! [Jobber, circa 19360 Nah, don't worry, I'm sure THESE Nazis are the nice ones who won't hurt you.[/Jobber, circa 1936] Making a bad decision 15 years ago doesn't make you completely incompetant to handle money or information. Umm, yeah, it does. Giving ex-cons info about entire neighborhoods --- including sexual offenders (any bets on them NOT informing people of their crimes?) is a fucking stupid idea. Guess what, Mike. Some of us don't care if someone makes a small potatoes infraction of the law. Some of us don't find it any hideous if a 17 and 19 year old make with the sex than if two 18 year olds did it. And if they did, some of us don't think they're subhuman scum because of it just because the law said this or that. Some of us have more sense. Now, you can go back to being afraid of the guy knocking on your door to sell magazines. He might have been convicted of stealing cable, after all. I hope that any kids you have in the future don't mind you having the local pedophile babysit them. After all, he paid his debt. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Mike called us Evil? Damn, he's bringing out the big guns... um, again. For whatever record exists, I'd be acting the same way if the Bush/Cheney campaign did this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Mike called us Evil? Damn, he's bringing out the big guns... um, again. For whatever record exists, I'd be acting the same way if the Bush/Cheney campaign did this. And I'd be pissed if the GOP did it. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Charles Manson and Jeffery Dahmer don't really sound like "nonviolent" to me. I don't think assault, rape, and murder sound like "nonviolent" either, but maybe that's just me. The willful blindness in this thread simply astounds me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 28, 2004 that's irony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 All throughout page 2, I've been sitting here trying desperately to figure out how ANY sexual offense can be considered "minor". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 [Jobber, circa 19360 Nah, don't worry, I'm sure THESE Nazis are the nice ones who won't hurt you.[/Jobber, circa 1936] [Mike, circa now]Everyone who's ever served a jail sentence is an absolutely despicable waste of life who will just commit more crimes once they get out[/Mike, circa now] I hope that any kids you have in the future don't mind you having the local pedophile babysit them. After all, he paid his debt. -=Mike Just to provide an interesting alternative to this, someone being DUI with their child in the backseat? Endangerment of a child. Doesn't mean there's sex involved. Clearly a DUI charge means that someone presented a liability and a potential danger to themselves, anyone in their car, and anyone they are sharing the road with. But hey, just because you once got caught while DUI doesn't mean that you can't be trusted as President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Go back and read the bolded section of your quote in my last post. I did. You still need to supply an ACTUAL point. Sorry, I guess I gave you more intellectual credit than you deserved. Your comment was something to the effect of liberals selling their souls to get Bush out of office, which in this case, would be by a vote. I would say popular vote, but we all know the shit storm that will bring down, so, forget I even mentioned it. I mention Monica Lewnisky, because I thought you could play political connect the dots. It goes something like this: Monica Lewinsky -> Stained dress -> Kenneth Star -> Clinton tried for grounds of impeachment -> Clinton aqcuitted because the charges were fucking stupid to begin with. I'll try to make it a little more obvious next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 28, 2004 All throughout page 2, I've been sitting here trying desperately to figure out how ANY sexual offense can be considered "minor". sex between a 17 year old and a 19 year old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 I don't think assault, rape, and murder sound like "nonviolent" either, but maybe that's just me. Only person who brought up murder in this thread was you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Sexual harassment can be minor. And can we please stop talking about Clinton/shit that happened years ago? This is the CURRENT Events folder. Geesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Go back and read the bolded section of your quote in my last post. I did. You still need to supply an ACTUAL point. Sorry, I guess I gave you more intellectual credit than you deserved. Your comment was something to the effect of liberals selling their souls to get Bush out of office, which in this case, would be by a vote. I would say popular vote, but we all know the shit storm that will bring down, so, forget I even mentioned it. I mention Monica Lewnisky, because I thought you could play political connect the dots. It goes something like this: Monica Lewinsky -> Stained dress -> Kenneth Star -> Clinton tried for grounds of impeachment. I'll try to make it a little more obvious next time. And you're mistaking punishing a President for perjury and obstructing justice for selling a soul. sex between a 17 year old and a 19 year old. Care to guess how often that is ACTUALLY prosecuted? Why, ALMOST NEVER. You see, this is called a red herring. When you have no point, you just throw it out there. [Mike, circa now]Everyone who's ever served a jail sentence is an absolutely despicable waste of life who will just commit more crimes once they get out[/Mike, circa now] [Jobber, now] I know the guy has raped girls for decades, sweetie. But I need to go to work and I'm sure he's learned his lesson by now. [/Jobber, now] Your utter blindness here is fertile ground. Just to provide an interesting alternative to this, someone being DUI with their child in the backseat? Endangerment of a child. Doesn't mean there's sex involved. I guess that explains the "Sex offenders" part. Clearly a DUI charge means that someone presented a liability and a potential danger to themselves, anyone in their car, and anyone they are sharing the road with. But hey, just because you once got caught while DUI doesn't mean that you can't be trusted as President. Wekll, apparently committing perjury can be a badge of honor for some ex-Presidents. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted June 28, 2004 [T]he group admitted it might also have hired felons in 14 other battleground states. It also promised to fire anyone guilty of "violent or other serious offenses." In some cases it won't have to; four felons it hired in Missouri have already gone back to prison, including one for endangering the welfare of a minor. That's one reason the Missouri Department of Corrections banned ACT from its list of potential employers for parolees in halfway houses. Noting that the felons would have to handle driver's license information and telephone numbers as part of the voter-registration process, the department concluded that "from a public safety standpoint, we didn't want offenders to be in a situation where they would be handling that information." - Bad ACTors Nice job, guys. You're actually helping child molestors to find, track, and assault their victims now? We don't have to lift a finger to win this election, do we? I don't think you should lift a finger for the elections. After all, members of the CIA have so much more important things to do... like possibily trying to stop the rampant kidnappings and beheadings of Americans on Foriegn soil which you guys have done a BANG UP JOB OF SO FAR! A winner is you, Marn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 You have all scared me beyond belief. This is beyond sick and it's enough to make me turn to the dark side and become Republican. Christ almighty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 sex between a 17 year old and a 19 year old. Care to guess how often that is ACTUALLY prosecuted? Why, ALMOST NEVER. You see, this is called a red herring. When you have no point, you just throw it out there. And you live in South Carolina also? Where the hell are you, under a rock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 I don't think you should lift a finger for the elections. After all, members of the CIA have so much more important things to do I'm not employed by the CIA, idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 28, 2004 sex between a 17 year old and a 19 year old. Care to guess how often that is ACTUALLY prosecuted? Why, ALMOST NEVER. You see, this is called a red herring. When you have no point, you just throw it out there. And you live in South Carolina also? Where the hell are you, under a rock? Again, care to mention the number of times it's been prosecuted? I don't think you should lift a finger for the elections. After all, members of the CIA have so much more important things to do... like possibily trying to stop the rampant kidnappings and beheadings of Americans on Foriegn soil which you guys have done a BANG UP JOB OF SO FAR! Last time I checked, she doesn't work for the CIA. And WAY to bring up a totally irrelevant point. Kudos! -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Man, 'round these parts (Charleston metro), banging an underage girl without fear of at least attempted prosecution is impossible unless the kid as a completely dysfunctional family or something. But you'll say "Oh, so it's ATTEMPTED prosecution, it's not REAL prosecution! You idiot. Make a real point. Stupid." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 I don't think assault, rape, and murder sound like "nonviolent" either, but maybe that's just me. Only person who brought up murder in this thread was you. And the original AP report the article was based on. And countless other reports, editorials, and columns in this rapidly growing story. The names of two ACT employees in Ohio matched the names of people convicted of murder and rape, but the AP was unable verify that they lived at the addresses listed by ACT in filings with the federal Election Commission. ACT has declined to verify the criminal backgrounds of any specific employees. - Political Group to Run Background Checks on Employees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 I don't think you should lift a finger for the elections. After all, members of the CIA have so much more important things to do... like possibily trying to stop the rampant kidnappings and beheadings of Americans on Foriegn soil which you guys have done a BANG UP JOB OF SO FAR!... And here I thought you were going to mention them shipping crack into the inner cities. You disappoint me, Z... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites