Democrats hire rapists to go door-to-door

[Firestarter 0]

[T]he group admitted it might also have hired felons in 14 other battleground states. It also promised to fire anyone guilty of "violent or other serious offenses." In some cases it won't have to; four felons it hired in Missouri have already gone back to prison, including one for endangering the welfare of a minor.

 

That's one reason the Missouri Department of Corrections banned ACT from its list of potential employers for parolees in halfway houses. Noting that the felons would have to handle driver's license information and telephone numbers as part of the voter-registration process, the department concluded that "from a public safety standpoint, we didn't want offenders to be in a situation where they would be handling that information."

- Bad ACTors

 

Nice job, guys. You're actually helping child molestors to find, track, and assault their victims now? We don't have to lift a finger to win this election, do we?

[Guest Cerebus]

Jeez, now there are two reasons for me to tell my little sister to close the door as soon as she hears "I'm here to tell you about George W. Bush"

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

When I first heard this story part of me thought "Well everyone deserves a second chance."

 

Then the common sense part of my brain (as little as it is) said "Not by doing this."

 

I thought Union thugs had the job of threatening people to vote Democrat or else...

[Jobber of the Week 0]

What? They let felons who paid their time re-enter society by giving them work?

 

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! Next thing you know they'll provide food for the hungry or something! If this isn't proof that John Kerry isn't an evil bastard than I don't know wha... Oh. Wait. You know what? These are released felons. Well, shit.

 

So, remind me how this is different than a released prisoner who "finds Christ" and does the same thing pitching God and Bibles for a church? Or being hired as a telephone agent at a commercial entity, handling orders and entering customer information?

 

 

At any rate, I'm glad to see the liberals will have a place for Ken Lay to go when he needs work.

[Vyce 0]

Jobber, your best response would have been to simply ignore this post.

 

Because you can go, "Well, they had served their time", but you can't really defend them for hiring CHILD MOLESTERS when this group clearly stated that they didn't intend to send out former felons who had been found guilty of "violent or other serious offenses."

 

Someone fucked up here, big time.

 

If I was the parent or guardian of the child that was endangered, I'd sue this organization for negligence, for every fucking dollar they had. I'd be owning everything of there's down to the goddamn wall calendars by the time it was all over and done with.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Check the context. They went to jail, after being hired, for that.

 

There's no information on why they first went to jail. Is this a relapse, or a new event? We dont have enough information to tell. Chances are, if their screening is what they say it is, it's something new.

 

In the meantime, I AM APPALED that the guy at the door telling me to vote Kerry was once a POT SMOKER. How dare they hire hoods like this?

 

And the girl next door said a man who got busted for downloading MP3s of all crimes came to her house! And he gave a long look at her CD collection, too!

[Guest BDC]

Jobber, it says "four felons have gone BACK to prison" meaning that they did something to land their asses in there in the first place. Include that one of them "endangered the welfare of a minor" and it's not all that hard to fill out the picture.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Did you just miss the first half of that?

 

Endangering a minor is what he went BACK to prison for. We don't know if that's what got him there in the first place or not.

 

In the meantime, because of this one, underinformative line, we assume that everyone involved in this program is raping little Suzy for John Kerry.

[Guest MikeSC]

Did you just miss the first half of that?

 

Endangering a minor is what he went BACK to prison for. We don't know if that's what got him there in the first place or not.

 

In the meantime, because of this one, underinformative line, we assume that everyone involved in this program is raping little Suzy for John Kerry.

Well, at least one of them WAS doing that.

 

Good choice of reps you have there.

 

And way to defend them, Jobber.

-=Mike

[Vyce 0]

Goddamnit, Mike, you insensitive bastard, THEY'D SERVED THEIR TIME.

[Guest MikeSC]

Goddamnit, Mike, you insensitive bastard, THEY'D SERVED THEIR TIME.

Apparently, one of them served it in little Suzy's love canal...

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

So what do you suggest instead? And answer this question:

 

So, remind me how this is different than a released prisoner who "finds Christ" and does the same thing pitching God and Bibles for a church? Or being hired as a telephone agent at a commercial entity, handling orders and entering customer information?

 

So far, you guys are completely focusing on the fact that one guy may have raped a child and not paying any attention to the bigger picture.

[Guest MikeSC]

So what do you suggest instead? And answer this question:

 

So, remind me how this is different than a released prisoner who "finds Christ" and does the same thing pitching God and Bibles for a church? Or being hired as a telephone agent at a commercial entity, handling orders and entering customer information?

 

So far, you guys are completely focusing on the fact that one guy may have raped a child and not paying any attention to the bigger picture.

Ah, IGNORE the raping of a child. She should be happy to have her vagina used to assist Kerry in his bid to win the White House.

 

You know, if a Bush supporter raped a little girl, I doubt you'd be so understanding...

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Answer the fucking question, for once. What do we do with convicts that have served their time?

[Guest MikeSC]

Answer the fucking question, for once. What do we do with convicts that have served their time?

Having them work for your Presidential campaign might not be a terribly good idea.

 

And anybody for bets that some of them were in jail for some rather nasty offenses?

 

But, again, if a con who was "pro-Bush" did it, you'd have been having fits by now.

-=Mike

...Hell, the jailbait cocktease was probably asking for it anyway, right?

[Firestarter 0]

What? They let felons who paid their time re-enter society by giving them work?

 

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

They didn't even perform background checks. How carefully do you think they went over their records? How much are you willing to bet that ACT's character judgements about the convicted criminals they hired were accurate?

 

Do you have any sisters? How about their lives?

 

How about a mother, do you have a mother? How about hers?

 

Next thing you know they'll provide food for the hungry or something!

So, feeding the hungry is morally equivalent to sending rapists, child abusers, murderers and professional thieves into unsuspecting communities, and giving these convicted criminals a license to knock on doors, enter homes, and ask for personal information, including names, telephone numbers, Social Security numbers, and driver's licenses. Huh.

 

And I'm sorry, but don't you see anything even slightly wrong with this? I have nothing against giving jobs to people who've paid their debt to society. Based on the double whammy principle, I even think we should consider allowing them to vote. But for Christ's sake. You don't give a professional burglar the opportunity to case half a hundred houses a day. You don't send a child rapist to collate demographics. You don't send out murderers to visit a family and get their personal information.

 

"Oh, by the way, there's a fund-raiser for John Kerry in two days! I know you said you work out of town, but can I sign you up for that?"

"No, I'm sorry, we'll be out of the house that day. We're still trying to find a baby-sitter."

"Oh, what a pity..."

 

This isn't rocket science. Give them jobs? Sure. Turn them loose with what (for some Democrats, at least) practically amounts to a mandate to inquire into the personal lives of entire communities? How fucking thick are you, really, Jobber? How fucking stupid? And you're comparing rapists and murderers to white-collar criminals now? I'll tell you something, I hate George Soros and I think he's an unprincipled piece of shit, but I'd rather have him in my living room than Charles Manson. I'd rather George Soros knew where my wife went to school than Jeffery Dahmer. You honestly don't see a difference?

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

talk about misleading thread titles...

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Answer the fucking question, for once. What do we do with convicts that have served their time?

Point and laugh at them, then never allow them to work in plain site of the public I guess.

 

Oh ya, I'm a democrat.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

(1) A person commits the crime of endangering the welfare of a minor if the person knowingly:

(a) Induces, causes or permits an unmarried person under 18 years of age to witness an act of sexual conduct or sadomasochistic abuse as defined by ORS 167.060; or

(b) Permits a person under 18 years of age to enter or remain in a place where unlawful activity involving controlled substances is maintained or conducted; or

© Induces, causes or permits a person under 18 years of age to participate in gambling as defined by ORS 167.117; or

(d) Distributes, sells, or causes to be sold, tobacco in any form to a person under 18 years of age; or

(e) Sells to a person under 18 years of age any device in which tobacco, marijuana, cocaine or any controlled substance, as defined in ORS 475.005, is burned and the principal design and use of which is directly or indirectly to deliver tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke, cocaine smoke or smoke from any controlled substance into the human body including but not limited to:

(A) Pipes, water pipes, hookahs, wooden pipes, carburetor pipes, electric pipes, air driven pipes, corncob pipes, meerschaum pipes and ceramic pipes, with or without screens, permanent screens, hashish heads or punctured metal bowls;

(B) Carburetion tubes and devices, including carburetion masks;

© Bongs;

(D) Chillums;

(E) Ice pipes or chillers;

(F) Cigarette rolling papers and rolling machines; and

(G) Cocaine free basing kits.

 

(2) Endangering the welfare of a minor by violation of subsection (1)(a), (b), © or (e) of this section, involving other than a device for smoking tobacco, is a Class A misdemeanor.

 

(3) Endangering the welfare of a minor by violation of subsection (1)(d) of this section or by violation of subsection (1)(e) of this section, involving a device for smoking tobacco, is a Class A violation and the court shall impose a fine of not less than $100. [1971 c.743 §177; 1973 c.827 §20; 1979 c.744 §8; 1981 c.838 §1; 1983 c.740 §31; 1991 c.970 §5; 1995 c.79 §52; 1999 c.1051 §153]

 

As you can see there's MANY different things that this person could have done.

[Guest MikeSC]

And, because Dems employed them, it MUST be the least dangerous of the possibilities, right?

-=Mike

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

you don't know what the man is accused of doing and you automatically assume that he did the worst possible thing because he's a dem.

 

All I suggest is that there are MANY things he could have done. Yet almost everyone assumes he's guilty of the worst crime possible listed. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

[Guest MikeSC]

you don't know what the man is accused of doing and you automatically assume that he did the worst possible thing because he's a dem.

 

All I suggest is that there are MANY things he could have done. Yet almost everyone assumes he's guilty of the worst crime possible listed. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

CWM, hear ex-con re-arrested for endangering a minor and, yeah, DAMN RIGHT I'M GOING TO ASSUME THE WORST.

 

They were in jail for a reason.

 

"What happened to innocent until proven guilty"? I think you're mistaking NAIVETE with a moral argument.

 

I cam GUARANTEE that if this involved Bush, you'd think the same thing I do.

-=Mike

...And I can guarantee that if this involved Bush, I'd assume the man did the worst, too...

[Guest CronoT]

And, because Dems employed them, it MUST be the least dangerous of the possibilities, right?

-=Mike

Sorry to shit all over your Happy Dance, Mike, but answer me this: How many people who were convicted for involvement with the Watergate scandal are now out of prison? Should we never allow them to hold another job?

[Guest MikeSC]

And, because Dems employed them, it MUST be the least dangerous of the possibilities, right?

        -=Mike

Sorry to shit all over your Happy Dance, Mike, but answer me this: How many people who were convicted for involvement with the Watergate scandal are now out of prison? Should we never allow them to hold another job?

Another PUBLIC job, where they do what these guys did?

 

Nope.

-=Mike

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

re-arrested for endangering a minor

 

Where does it say he ever did the same before? It doesn't. He went to jail and did his time.

 

If he did rape a child then yes, he should be punished to the full extent of the law.

 

Of course, I doubt most of you really care much about who this man may have hurt. You'd rather stand upon your high horse and cast insults upon the heads of those "evil" Democrats.

 

If this was a Republican you'd be the ones saying he could have done something else.

[Vyce 0]

As you can see there's MANY different things that this person could have done.

Did you even bother to click on the link?

 

First, ACT claimed it hadn't employed violent felons. Then when the AP reported that ACT employees included people convicted of assault and sex offenses, the group admitted it might also have hired felons in 14 other battleground states.

 

It’s already been established that some of the ones they hired WERE convicted of assault & sexual offenses – which, of course, against the organization’s OWN POLICIES for not hiring anyone convicted of “violent or serious offenses”.

 

So if one of these guys gets arrested for endangering the welfare of a minor – I doubt it was because he simply lit up a joint with them or offered them a bottle of hooch.

 

And as for you, Jobber, you ask what do we do with these ex-cons? Well, if they’re ex-FELONS, I can tell you exactly what you DON’T do with them – you don’t send them into unsuspecting neighborhoods to go door to door.

 

I mean, Christ….we have sexual offender registries whose sole purpose is to notify neighborhoods when sexual predators are moving into their community….and this ACT groups sends these same type of offenders DOOR to DOOR to drum up political support. Godallmighty. I don’t care how much one hates Bush, Soros can’t be THAT desperate to win in November.

[Guest MikeSC]

re-arrested for endangering a minor

 

Where does it say he ever did the same before? It doesn't. He went to jail and did his time.

 

If he did rape a child then yes, he should be punished to the full extent of the law.

 

Of course, I doubt most of you really care much about who this man may have hurt. You'd rather stand upon your high horse and cast insults upon the heads of those "evil" Democrats.

 

If this was a Republican you'd be the ones saying he could have done something else.

Bullshit. If I heard an ex-con who worked for the GOP was arrested for endangering a minor, I'd gripe at the GOP for hiring bad people to work on their campaigns at any level.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

And anybody for bets that some of them were in jail for some rather nasty offenses?

AP article said sex offenders, but that could be as vague as hitting the jailbait, not necessarily forcing himself on children or violating Grandma.

 

...Hell, the jailbait cocktease was probably asking for it anyway, right?

 

I don't have a problem if a 19 year old and a 17 year old have sex, thank you. Let me know when we get to the obscene age differences and we can talk.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

Did you even bother to click on the link?

 

Indeed I did. Does that mean it was this man that had commited those acts? No it doesn't.

 

Yes there's a good chance he did but once again your assuming before you know anything.

[Guest MikeSC]

And anybody for bets that some of them were in jail for some rather nasty offenses?

AP article said sex offenders, but that could be as vague as hitting the jailbait, not necessarily forcing himself on children or violating Grandma.

Jesus Christ, when the hell did libs become so willing to sell their souls to oust a President? Do you know how fucking, well, EVIL you are sounding here? "Yeah, he was arrested for sex offenses, but it could've been something minor".

 

SO FUCKING WHAT?

 

Why the FUCK is a sex offender DOING THIS WORK ANYWAY?

 

Do you have no soul?

...Hell, the jailbait cocktease was probably asking for it anyway, right?

I don't have a problem if a 19 year old and a 17 year old have sex, thank you. Let me know when we get to the obscene age differences and we can talk.

Well, I hope Kerry's election is enough to make this bastardization of any sense of morals you once possessed worth it.

-=Mike