Stuff that makes you confused...

[Guest Staravenger]

On Vengeance, they said Kane/Hardy was a NO DQ match. But count outs weren't done. BUT when Tajiri fought Kane in a No DQ Match, count-outs were allowed. Why can't they just stick with one stipulation instead of cheap ways out?

 

 

And how does Tajiri do the mist? I mean what does he use for it.

[Guest netslob]

why is it that when both guys are knocked out and lying flat on their backs, the ref starts counting? and has anyone EVER won a match this way?

[BHK 0]

And how does Tajiri do the mist? I mean what does he use for it.

I believe he keeps capsules in his trunks and then places them in his mouth right before. Someone who is familiar with The Great Muta would probably be able to tell you.

[Papacita 0]

why is it that when both guys are knocked out and lying flat on their backs, the ref starts counting? and has anyone EVER won a match this way?

Well, if both guys are down, the ref can't just let them lay there because you don't know when they'll be getting back up, and the fans don't wanna watch a match where the guys are lying around for 10-15 minutes, and even if they come to, you don't want the match continuing, because there's a chance that one or both guys is seriously injured. I guess you can say that they do the count just to give the guys time to clear their heads and get themselves together before seeing if they're fit to finish the match.

 

As to whether or not a person has won this way...I do remember one ECW match between Sandman and...someone (Shane?) where both guys were KO'd, the ref put the count down, Sandman made it up (actually, I believe Woman held him up) but his opponent didn't, so the match was stopped and given to Sandman.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I think the mist is Kool-Aid in a bag if I remember. Capsules break too easily.

[Guest Staravenger]

I think the mist is Kool-Aid in a bag if I remember. Capsules break too easily.

And that just gave me a great idea....muwahahahaha...

[JST 0]

why is it that when both guys are knocked out and lying flat on their backs, the ref starts counting? and has anyone EVER won a match this way?

Usually, when one man gets up before the count of 10, the referee will simply stop the count and let the match go on.

 

Unless of course, it's a Last Man Standing match.

[Special K 0]

The rop break during I Quit/Cage/NHB matches has ALWAYS pissed me off.

 

Conversely, if you're in a last man standing match, and someone gets you in a deadly submission, why don't you IMMEDIATELY tap, and then take the 10 count to get your wind. Hell, you could tap out if you're having a hard time getting out of an arm wringer.

 

EDIT: Why on earth does the Russian legsweep hurt? Also, why is getting stunned on a flat chair / table more painful? It was clearly stated numerous times that the point of the stunner was to injure the other wrestlers' throats (as opposed to necks like a Diamond Cutter) Tommy Dreamer had the right idea: he stunnered someone's throat on to the edge of a chair. OUCH. And I understand this is something to take on faith but: Why do so many wrestlers throw closed fist punches in matches contested under normal rules? I mean getting socked in the face 3 times is a LOT worse than getting suplexed. Sorta ruins the illusion.

[DangerousDamon 0]

I was watching the cage match between AJ Styles and Jeff Jarrett last night and I was confused by a few things.

 

 

1. Why was Jarret hiding weapons if the match was no DQ?

 

 

2. Why did the referee tell JJ he couldn't take the guitar into the cage if it was no DQ?

[Guest Staravenger]

I was watching the cage match between AJ Styles and Jeff Jarrett last night and I was confused by a few things.

 

 

1. Why was Jarret hiding weapons if the match was no DQ?

 

 

2. Why did the referee tell JJ he couldn't take the guitar into the cage if it was no DQ?

In old NWA matches, cages were to keep managers and weapons out, and keep the wrestlers in. Usually though, the heel's manager would toss a chair or something in, for example Luger vs. Koloff from the 87 GAB Tour, Luger got a chair when the ref was out and plastered Koloff unconcious.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

This is a obvious one, but why do people tell secrets in front on the camera?

They don't see the camera.

 

Or the lights.

 

Or the boom guy.

 

Hey, they're busy EMOTING!

One of my favorite "The camera's not there skit" is when The Rock came back and Angle was a face. Rock and Angle are talking and Rock is trying to get Angle to sing. The Rock then turns to the camera and ask the folks "Would you like to hear Angle sing?" and Angle has a confused look on his face and asks Rock who's he talking to. And Rock tells him to never mind. To funny.

[Copper Feel 0]

eddie gurreou and chris benoit were good friends in the storylines benoit and tajiri werent eddie turns on tajiri and benoit no longer likes him. wtf? then despite the fact eddie threw poisin in benoits eyes in july 2003 they were best friends again by march 2004.

[eiker_ir 0]

matches on TV shows always end right at the end of the show, even if they last 3 minutes or 45 minutes, they all end right at the end of the timeslot.

[Australian Pride 0]

In a NO-DQ tag match , why does one member of each team have to stand on the apron and hold the rope like in a normal match. I remember back at No Way Out 1998 there was a 'unsanctioned' eight man tag match which started as an all in brawl and after about 5 minutes there was only 2 left in the ring and the rest were waiting to get tagged in. What's the ref going to do if they dont stand there???

[Guest Staravenger]

Same can be said about LOD/Nasties from SSlam 91. WHY is a tag needed when you CAN'T be disqualified?

[Guest JerichosHi-Lite]

How come wrestlers go down with one chair shot in normal matches, but in hardcore matches or cage matches or whatever, they can take even more punishment? Perhaps their bodies are weaker during "normal" matches and because they "don't expect" the chair or belt shot, it's "more painful" and "takes more out of them"

[Guest JebusNassedar]

To answer the Russian Leg Sweep question, it depens on the version.

 

The standard version works in tow ways. One: It creates whiplash like you would not believe. Two: The impact plants the opponent on the middle of his back, expelling air from the chest and dazing the opponent.

 

There's one variation where tehe opponent's arm is behind you instead of in front. That takes all the aforementionbed legsweep effects, plus adds the fun of 200+ pounds landing on your arm.

 

If there's a Russian Legsweep variation I dont understand, it's Alex Shelley's Shellshock. Talk about ruining the suspention of disbelief. It might as well be in a fucking Ultimate Muscle game.

 

Also, I never understood why very rarely people tap out ot submissions that arent trademark moves. The exceptions are the Cross Arm Breaker and maybe, MAYBE Samoa Joe's terrifying half crab. If something is hurting, any submission done upon it should be enough to make someone tap out. Hell, I'd tap to a hammerlock if my arm was busted up.

[Guest La Marka]

Where do the wrestlers get such great lawyers? If they are arrested at the beginning of a two-hour program, they are more likely than not going to be back by the closing match.

 

And where are they actually processed? And does crime rate go up around the arena when all these police are occupied arrested and processing and filing paperwork for a wrestler?

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

I do believe the whole "arrested at beginning of show, free by the end" thing can be solved with the notion of bail. The lawyer finds how much bail is, and then pays it ASAP to get their client back to the show. Also, it's not like law really matters in the business, both in and out of kayfabe.

 

And what's Alex Shelley's Shellshock? If it hurts suspension of disbelief, I'd imagine it'd look similar to Lash LeRoux's Whiplash 2000, which is a Cravate Russian Legsweep (hold opponent's head over shoulder, as if to go for Stunner, hit Russian Legsweep out of that). Although, in truth, that has the effect of causing more whiplash to the neck, since it's being pulled forward while also being pushed back.

[Phoenix Fury Legdrop 0]

The Shellshock is very similar to Frankie Kazarian's Wave of the Future (Flatliner with a front lean).

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

Why do people start getting up when HBK starts stomping for Sweet Chin Music and why can't they block it?

[Guest Staravenger]

I've always wondered about that too. I noticed recently it's blocked 90% of the time.

 

One thing I HATE is when Kane/Taker/Show trys chokeslamming a woman or whatever, but hold them up for like 10 seconds waiting for someone to save.

[Guest The Ultimate Fantasy]

I do believe the whole "arrested at beginning of show, free by the end" thing can be solved with the notion of bail. The lawyer finds how much bail is, and then pays it ASAP to get their client back to the show. Also, it's not like law really matters in the business, both in and out of kayfabe.

 

And what's Alex Shelley's Shellshock? If it hurts suspension of disbelief, I'd imagine it'd look similar to Lash LeRoux's Whiplash 2000, which is a Cravate Russian Legsweep (hold opponent's head over shoulder, as if to go for Stunner, hit Russian Legsweep out of that). Although, in truth, that has the effect of causing more whiplash to the neck, since it's being pulled forward while also being pushed back.

I always thought the Whiplash 2000 was a reverse russian legsweep into a ace crusher.

[Guest Jim Ross]

Its always baffled me how people can survive Hardcore Matches, Cage Matches etc.. but as soon as they become a special guest referee, they are rendered unconcious from a misplaced clothesline?

 

Speaking of Clotheslines.. The ultimate killer move in any old school Survivor Series match.

[Guest Staravenger]

Speaking of Clotheslines.. The ultimate killer move in any old school Survivor Series match.

Also if you're name happens to be Rob Van Dam.

[Guest La Marka]

Watching many the puro match, you see wrestlers get up from stuff like a second-rope Ganzo Bomb, and then get pinned after a lariat.

 

Why not save time and just hit the lariat to begin with?

[J.B. Buzzkill 0]

Watching many the puro match, you see wrestlers get up from stuff like a second-rope Ganzo Bomb, and then get pinned after a lariat.

 

Why not save time and just hit the lariat to begin with?

The Ganso Bomb would wear your head/neck down for the lariat, and they survive Ganso Bombs by their FIGHTING SPIRIT~!

 

Yeah, that was lame.

 

2nd rope GB? I have yet to see that.

[Jericholic82 0]

ok if wrestler have lethal finishing moves, then why don't they go for them as soon ast he match begins. I mean sometimes you see this, but not often. and why is it that as soon as a move becomes your finisher its immediately a match ender. I mean Rock started using the peoples elbow in 98, it was considered a wear down move at best and kind of a joke. by 99 hes using it to pin the big show . I mean what's the difference between it and a regular elbowdrop.

 

 

 

and why in last nights iron man match, did hhh try to fight the sharpshooter, he (in kayfabe) should have immediately tapped out to avoid injury (since he was ahead by 2 falls) and also why did benoit bother to break the hold after the fall, he should have held on for another fall, or if a fall means you have to break (never explained) then just put on the hold again.

 

and I HATE ROPE BREAKS IN NO DQ MATCHES

 

 

and WHY DID RIC FLAIR PIN HOGAN AT UNCENSORED 99 WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FIRST BLOOD MATCH

 

and why is it that angle cost eddie the cage match I mean eddie had a chance to leave but decided to frogsplash jbl

 

why do heels hold the ropes when rolling up an oppenent (ex edge 2 weeks ago against batista, holding the ropes in that kind of rollup would not give extra leverage infact it might give less, also see honky tonk man vs jake roberts wm 3)

 

how does holding the tights do anything?

 

Why if a wrestler misses a top rope move and hits canvas hes hurt more than landing on a bony wrestler (like benoit missing the headbutt last night, youd think it hurt less to hit the mat instead of hhhs shoulder)

 

 

why is tapping out more embarrasing then submitting the old way (saying i give up or quit or yes)