Promoter 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2004 This is something I copied off a website that copies off Dave Meltzer. Maybe some interesting discussion can come out of this. OK, here it is, I've combined last years numbers into the report. The first number covers May 2003-October 2003, the second number convers January 2004-June 2004. Smackdown Characters Akio (N/A) (-57,714) Kurt Angle (+402,130) (+248,900) Danny Basham (+43,900) (+39,778) Doug Basham (+43,900) (+57,222) Shelton Benjamin (+304,545) (+106,250) Booker T (-70,670) (+173,143) John Cena (+22,130) (+224,182) Chavo Classic (N/A) (+95,857) Bubba Ray Dudley (-37,450) (+115,000) D'Von Dudley (-37,450) (+116,111) Spike Dudley (-117,830) (+14,167) Rene Dupree (-41,390) (+241,000) Funaki (N/A) (+108,250) Zach Gowen (+484,600) (N/A) Chavo Guerrero (N/A) (+199,611) Eddy Guerrero (+310,375) (+277,846) Billy Gunn (+279,330) (-127,000) Charlie Haas (+299,190) (+131,545) Paul Heyman (N/A) (+355,444) Hulk Hogan (+468,250) (N/A) Bob Holly (N/A) (+214,143) Scotty 2 Hotty (N/A) (+104,667) Mark Jindrak (-181,830) (N/A) Billy Kidman (N/A) (+127,714) John Bradshaw Layfield (N/A) (+136,267) Brock Lesnar (+326,610) (+312,111) Stephanie McMahon (+620,100) (N/A) Vince McMahon (+625,720) (N/A) Shannon Moore (-50,000) (N/A) Rey Misterio (+100,550) (+77,765) Jamie Noble (+8,130) (-12,625) Nunzio (-29,500) (+3,833) Rico (N/A) (-57,250) Rikishi (-110,750) (N/A) Sakoda (N/A) (-57,250) Big Show (+299,620) (+286,538) Spanky (+12,750) (N/A) Johnny Stamboli (-29,500) (-3,857) Tajiri (+89,690) (+162,600) Undertaker (+226,500) (+327,200) Rob Van Dam (+53,360) (+131,333) Torrie Wilson (-56,800) (+273,800) Raw Characters A-Train (+70,000) (N/A) Steve Austin (+429,560) (+50,200) Batista (N/A) (+311,121) Shelton Benjamin (+304,545) (+309,625) Chris Benoit (+311,360) (+371,269) Eric Bischoff (+381,570) (+160,250) Garrison Cade (-27,170) (N/A) Booker T (-70,760) (+22,375) Christian (+132,060) (+36,333) Robert Conway (-41,390) (-8,900) Bubba Ray Dudley (-37,450) (+34,750) D'Von Dudley (-37,450) (+106,500) Rene Dupree (-41,390) (+56,000) Edge (N/A) (+406,615) Eugene (N/A) (+300,357) Ric Flair (+282,110) (+368,444) Mick Foley (+574,000) (+455,667) Bill Goldberg (+427,060) (N/A) Matt Hardy (+20,250) (+19,846) HHH (+408,470) (+287,875) Mark Henry (N/A) (-91,800) Molly Holly (+5,110) (-173,889) Hurricane (-69,230) (-185,333) Jazz (N/A) (-122,200) Chris Jericho (+261,890) (+122,966) Kane (+251,600) (+46,077) Stacey Kiebler (N/A) (-23,200) Lita (N/A) (+58,250) Vince McMahon (N/A) (+98,167) Gail Kim (+235,500) (N/A) Rodney Mack (-180,270) (N/A) Maven (-114,330) (N/A) Shawn Michaels (+266,220) (+290,294) Kevin Nash (+143,180) (N/A) Nidia (-111,000) (N/A) Randy Orton (+88,310) (+378,567) Rhyno (+131,220) (N/A) Rock (N/A) (+600,200) Rosey (-156,000) (N/A) Scott Steiner (+30,600) (N/A) Lance Storm (+41,300) (N/A) Trish Stratus (-96,500) (+50,285) Tajiri (+89,690) (+32,286) Rob Van Dam (+53,360) (+133,778) Victoria (N/A) (-107,00) -Peformers who switched sides during this ratings period are reflected on both programs for their numbers their. -Numbers should be taken as a general range of effectiveness for the year and the difference between 370,000 and 380,000 is meaningless. -Benoit, Evolution, Shawn Michaels and Edge have an advantage over Kane and Chris Jericho because of the spots they frequently appear in during the program. -Rock's numbers were helped greatly being being a "special attraction". Foley had the same benefits, but cooled around Mania when he became a regular player. -A general rule is a Superstar should draw at least 300,000 and a super top draw should draw over 400,000. -The main players on Smackdown aren't over as TV stars. Eddie is actually drawing fewer as a main eventer than he had a year ago as a midcarder. -Despite how big his pops are John Cena is still nothing special in making the masses turn on their TV's -HHH is currently not connecting with the casual like he should considering his position and push. -The biggest single segment of 2004 was for the end of Eugene vs Benoit and the subsequent Evolution beatdown. Eugene, due to fewer overall segments than HHH and Benoit had his neighbors greatly inflated by this segment as his number aside from this would have been (+199,857) while it wouldn't have a sizable impact on the others as they've had many more segments and routinely drawn well. -JBL's number is deceptively low. Since becoming a single his pull has been substantially higher, an the lower number is mostly attributed to spending 1/2 of this review period in the APA. The shows, in general, have a general trend as far as the ratings go. The main event slot, unless completely repellant is usually the highest rated spot regardless of who is in it, and the top of the second hour also has a big bump, where as the first segments after the top of each hour generally have a bit of turn out rate. So guys like Benoit, HHH and HBK have a bit of an advantage because they regularly appear in the main event, or at least the top of the second hour segment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2004 Eddie is actually drawing fewer as a main eventer than he had a year ago as a midcarder. -JBL's number is deceptively low. Since becoming a single his pull has been substantially higher, an the lower number is mostly attributed to spending 1/2 of this review period in the APA. SD, on the whole, had been horrible for pretty much all of Eddie's title reign, which of course is going to pull his number down. when he was a midcarder, the shows were significantly better, meaning more people were watching. JBL was working primarily against Eddie, so JBL's numbers would appear to be helped out by that fact. Now that he's working with Taker, I'm sure those numbers are going to stay higher than they would normally be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted July 23, 2004 3 of the biggest dips on RAW... Steve Austin (+429,560) (+50,200) Kane (+251,600) (+46,077) Chris Jericho (+261,890) (+122,966) Combined they dropped over 700,000 viewers. Randy Orton (+88,310) (+378,567) When did ORTON draw ratings? He's almost reaching 300,000 more than last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 23, 2004 Big gains for Cena. Also, HHH isn't in the MEs every week like before, so it's natural for his numbers to go down a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2004 For that 1st number, Orton wasn't doing much of anything (5/03 - 10/03). Now, he's in the dominant stable on Raw, hanging around ratings grabbers (according to the list) like HHH & Flair, having a feud against Foley, and generally being involved in high-profile matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dazed Report post Posted July 24, 2004 The 5 worst Raw guys for ratings are... Hurricane -69,230 -185,333 -254,563 Rodney Mack -180,270 0 -180,270 Molly Holly 5,110 -173,889 -168,779 Rosey -156,000 0 -156,000 Jazz 0 -122,200 -122,200 And the best... Shelton Benjamin 304,545 309,625 614,170 Ric Flair 282,110 368,444 650,554 Chris Benoit 311,360 371,269 682,629 HHH 408,470 287,875 696,345 Mick Foley 574,000 455,667 1,029,667 SD to follow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
