Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted July 26, 2004 Well basically I have been thinking lately at the state of TNA and it's been damn inconsistant. So what do you guys think that the money match/feud would be for TNA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2004 As much as I love AJ Styles and The Truth, I'd have to say it's still Raven vs. Jarrett. It was TNA's biggest match in 2 plus years, and could be again as most fans think Raven got screwed that night. That match was built like an epic and as the entrances were happening, it felt like a WM main event or something (sorry for the WWE reference). As long as they don't make Raven a pussy-babyface like they did before, he will have everyone on his side if he takes on Jarrett for the belt. I think this should main event TNA's first big PPV, provided they ever actually pull it off, and have Jarrett job clean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 I don't think they have one right now. Anyone would have to be built over a period of time to draw in TNA. That being said, they should start building towards AJ and someone, maybe Daniels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted July 26, 2004 I don't think they have one right now. Anyone would have to be built over a period of time to draw in TNA. That being said, they should start building towards AJ and someone, maybe Daniels. Now this I would agree with. Mainly for the fact of all the ****+matches they could bring if given the proper time to do so. I really think the reason why these two arent' fighting is because of how bad their matches would make the rest of the show seem. They would be putting on swank ass matches while the rest of the guys(or most of them) struggle to keep up with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Last Free Voice Report post Posted July 26, 2004 Damn you guys, took the answer from me. I think (as bad as it would be in the ring) people (marks) would want to see Jeff Hardy vs. Jarrett. (Hardy marks want to see him get the belt, and regular TNA marks want to see JJ get beat) Hardy AJ could be pretty good too. Maybe. Okay, I just want to see what would happen if they could go a whole match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2004 I think (as bad as it would be in the ring) people (marks) would want to see Jeff Hardy vs. Jarrett. (Hardy marks want to see him get the belt, and regular TNA marks want to see JJ get beat) Unfortunately, it looks like TNA's gonna blow the JJ/Hardy wad very early, when IMO, the should take the slow build they took when they brought in Raven. And yeah, the match won't be very good at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Last Free Voice Report post Posted July 26, 2004 I don't know, if they go for a slow build, people might loose interest, particularly if Hardy totaly exposes himself as the horrible worker he is. They need to get the match done while interest is high and people still think Hardy may be able to pull of an okay match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 I personally don't believe in slowly building towards something that will obviously be a let down. IF Hardy can do anything for ratings/buy rates, go ahead and use him now. You never know what he'll be doing (smoking) a few months down the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2004 I personally think that with some buildup, Raven-Hardy could be a big money match. But I'll actually say that Raven-Jarrett would do it. Let Raven point out that he got screwed, and build on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted July 26, 2004 The only way they would be able to do the show build to the JJ/Hardy match would be to not have Jeff wrestle. After that.....he WILL lose all the luster that he has entering the promotion. Not to mention that if they did have a good match, it would have to be heavily scripted. Otherwise, it'll be a failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2004 But I'll actually say that Raven-Jarrett would do it. Let Raven point out that he got screwed, and build on that. If I were TNA, I would play up the whole Triple J thing they started before with him holding others down because he has power over the company (only this time feuding with an actual wrestler fighting the establishment, say Raven, and not with a co-GM or whatever they want to call it). In fact, I'd let Raven call him Triple J on air, because that would make him the most over babyface in the company's history to alot of fans. And then, have Raven overcome the odds and beat him for the belt, thus fulfilling his destiny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 You guys do realize that all the names that you're throwing around for TNA's "big match" are WWE rejects. I don't think that helps the promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted July 26, 2004 You guys do realize that all the names that you're throwing around for TNA's "big match" are WWE rejects. I don't think that helps the promotion. What about AJ/Daniels? That would be my choice and it's something that the WWE couldn't come close to doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 Exactly, but everyone else is saying JJ/Raven/Hardy. Good or bad, those guys are WWE rejects. TNA needs its own identity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2004 Exactly, but everyone else is saying JJ/Raven/Hardy. Good or bad, those guys are WWE rejects. TNA needs its own identity. Yes, but that would require them to dump about 1/2 of their roster. Truth, Raven, D-Lo, JJ, Hardy, K-Dogg, BG James, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 i didn't say dump them. I think most of them can be usefull in some way. It's just sad to say that TNA's biigest money match would be between two WWE jobbers that haven't been elevated since leaving WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2004 I'd argue that Raven doesn't count as a WWE castoff. He wasn't featured prominently enough to have left that mark and most of his recognition comes from his ECW/WCW days. Plus, the Raven/JJ feud would be based on TNA history and not history in other promotions, unlike so many of the other feuds involving names in TNA, such as Raven/Sabu anyone? As much as I am enjoying the feud, it could have just as easily been based on Sabu denying Raven his destiny last April, and then viewers wouldn't have had to forget that they had indeed fought before, though never in a match. Anyway, this feud being based on TNA history would be a big plus, IMO. Longtime viewers will appreciate the acknowledgement of the product they've support for a long time and newer viewers might feel like they missed out on something and want to check out the first Raven/JJ match, and say, buy the best of the Title Matches DVD, provided TNA ever gets that elusive distribution deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 But the TNA hater would argue that the reason Raven wasn't featured prominitely in WWE was because he's not good enough. "Hey this guy was jobbing on heat a few moths back, why should I pay $10 a week to see him?" I don't think that, but until being properly rebuilt, I don't think he's the best top-guy for your orginization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted July 26, 2004 There is no question that AJ needs to be their "top billed" guy. I think he has the biggest fanbase(of the strictly TNA guys...not the rejects)and has consistantly put on the best matches that the company has booked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 Completely agree. He seems like a huge star waiting to happen. Why hasn't TNA capitalized on this yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted July 26, 2004 Completely agree. He seems like a huge star waiting to happen. Why hasn't TNA capitalized on this yet? Because they know how to make money* *they do not in anyway know how to make money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 Oh yeah, I forgot we were talking about TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2004 I agree that any long-term success for TNA is going to depend on their ability to make AJ Styles a star, and I don't think they've completely failed at that yet. He's been the most over non-cast off with the new Orlando crowd. And I think anybody else on the roster would have been booed out of the building against Hardy and AJ kept at least half of the crowd on his side (I know I hadn't cheered for a wrestler more since The Rock in 99). And, while Raven was jobbing on Heat before he came in, TNA did a good job of making him a credible title contender almost immediately without rushing to the match. Of course, Raven's character has been a mess ever since the lights went out in the Asylum on April 30. IMO, he can be built into a ME again. The precedent is there. Austin and Foley was a midcarder in WCW, HHH was an afterthought there as well, for instance. But they became credible main eventers. And Raven could be one again, IMO. So while i think Styles is the future of TNA, if they were going to bust out Bound for Glory at any time this year, I'd headline with Raven/Jarrett and let Styles work a fanastic, "break out" match to wow new fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 26, 2004 There is no question that AJ needs to be their "top billed" guy. I think he has the biggest fanbase(of the strictly TNA guys...not the rejects)and has consistantly put on the best matches that the company has booked. I say put Road Dogg and Konnan up as their top guys --- so as to make sure that everybody else looks good in comparison. Well, except for Dallas. And probably Jarrett on occasion. Maybe Jeff Hardy, too. Definitely Monte Brown. Damn, there went that idea. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magus 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2004 the biggest fued TNA could do would probably be Jarrett/Raven 2. no matter if they're cast-offs, this is what every TNA fan wants to see. Jeff just can't get over his ego enough to put over Raven in a big way. other than that... Styles/Kash is a fued i was really looking forward to, and i hope that TNA restarts it. workrate-wise, Styles/Daniels is TNA's best option, and i'm sure we'll see that at some point. Styles standing alone against Low Ki and Primetime, with Daniels leading them. that'll be sweet. i'm also liking Sabu/Raven, but i'm a mark for ECW shit. its been built well over time and the final blowoff match should be a good brawl. Raven/Hardy could be good, but this of course depends on what kind of worker Hardy wants to be nowadays. if he goes back to his roots, it could be a great fued, as Raven can make a good angle with ANYONE. he's a good guy to work with Hardy after the JJ fued, and it could help move Raven closer to the World title. if they continue putting over the Naturals, then AMW/Naturals could be on par with AMW/xXx. basically, any combination of good workers could be an excellent fued. TNA just has to book it right and have good performers in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 this is what every TNA fan wants to see. - 1. Namely me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 26, 2004 this is what every TNA fan wants to see. - 1. Namely me. Well, there goes 12.8% of the fanbase. Way to be disloyal, WMD. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted July 26, 2004 So you're saying TNA has 7.82 fans? How do you get .82 of a person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 26, 2004 So you're saying TNA has 7.82 fans? How do you get .82 of a person? Did you ever frequent totalnonstop.com? Corey can agree with me that a lot of the people there aren't exactly people. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Set Free Report post Posted July 26, 2004 I would have payed to see Hogan v.s. Jarrett. I will not pay to see Daniels v.s. Styles. Styles might be over one day, but Christopher Daniels has about as much of "the look" as my junior high science teacher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites