Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I've been away since the end of June, and as I left I figured it was a lock for GWB to win again. I imagine that it might have calmed down a little, but I figure he's still ahead. How do you guys view the election, in terms of which party will be taking it? Being Canadian it doesn't affect me directly, but I'm still interested. Sorry if an "election update" post has been made before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 It's close in the electoral college. Kerry's probably ahead right know. But, the RNC is coming up in 2 weeks. That will help Bush. Than the debates, which will in the end decide the Presidency, barring any attacks or unforseen events. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Don't bother trying to figure out who's going to win the election -- it'll just be like trying to guess who'll win the next Super Bowl. There are better ways to waste your time, like playing video games or watching porn. And you're not American? Odd, I thought you were. Where have you been, hippie?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Using recent history as a precedent; is it more important in the debate as to what you're saying or as to how you look while saying it? I was working at a camp for the past month and a half. I have been watching a lot of porn since I got back on Saturday. Too much in fact. I think I will go watch some more now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 You weren't having sex with the other camp counselors or even with some of the older, well-endowed campers? Shame shame shame... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 You weren't having sex with the other camp counselors or even with some of the older, well-endowed campers? Shame shame shame... It was a Christian Camp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 And those are the best ones, too. You get an extra "shame" for that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eclipse 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I know a way we can determine the election....CPU vs CPU with CAWs of Bush and Kerry. I did that way back in 2000 with Bush and Gore, and FUNNY PART, Bush won because of interference in the match! Hell, everyone remembers the crazy recounts that went on, it was some sort of interference! Oh, and the game I simulated it with was Wrestlemania 2000.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest syncer55 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 It seems like Bush is gonna take it again. Kerry seems to be losing steam. His speeches don't assure me of anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 That's because he isn't campaigning. He's trying to let Bush lose it for himself. Kerry is, historically, a great finisher. Don't be surprised if this one's as close as 2000, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Kerry's campaigning he was in Ohio Wednesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 By "campaigning" I mean throwing out ads even at the rate Bush is and trying to get his message out; he's not. He's trying to get name ID at most, but he's not saying anything remotely controversial or of substance. He's also spending very little money, whereas Bush is spending like a drunken sailor to keep his negatives from going down too much. Don't fool yourself here; Bush has done everything he can to bring himself down as of late. He's in perilous position when it comes to his negatives; even his personal approval ratings have been slipping. In the swing states, his approval ratings are in the low 40's, and that's dangerous territory for an incumbent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 He also doesn't have the tresure chest Bush has, so Kerry can't run has many ads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Bull. Kerry's warchest is at least 3/4 of what Bush's is, and he has more than enough to spend like crazy. He's not, and now he has more cash-on-hand than the President. It's how he wins elections; he did it to Dean, he did it to Edwards, and now he's going to do it to Bush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 The election....what it looks like? Two subpar choices. Bush vs. Kerry, whoever wins, america loses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Yes. But, Bush as the President has a bully pulpit Kerry doesn't have. As much has Kerry campaigns. Bush can demonstrate why he should be reelected by being the President. Of course he can do the opposite. All Kerry can do his campaign and try to sell himself to the voters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Of course, that's the incumbency advantage. Bush, however, seems to have neutralized that through factors that may or may not be his fault (e.g ineffective advertising) and factors that are completely out of his control (e.g. bad economic news, terrorism threats). He is currently in bad position, and until he brings down his negatives, he's going to have a tough time even competing in this election. If it were held today, Kerry would win in a landslide. And before you jump all over me for saying that, I firmly believe that he'll eventually get them up enough to make this election nauseatingly close. However, the question is whether or not he'll be able to do that without spending all of his money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 as of right now like every other time this topic has been posted, it is basically 50/50 and the winner will tip the scales in about 2 months from now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Based on polling, Kerry would annihilate Bush in the electoral college. Trust me, I've been watching them come in for months now. If you don't believe me, you can look at PollingReport.com. It really, truly would be a landslide, even if the useless national "trial heat" polls have it as Kerry 50-Bush 47 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Based on polling, Kerry would annihilate Bush in the electoral college. Trust me, I've been watching them come in for months now. If you don't believe me, you can look at PollingReport.com. It really, truly would be a landslide, even if the useless national "trial heat" polls have it as Kerry 50-Bush 47 Dammit Tyler, now you've done it. Contact a Mod and have 'em close this damn thread before MikeSC sees this...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I'm feeling feisty tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I'm feeling feisty tonight. well just prepare yourself for a quote tag followed by a response filled with...... "he served in Vietnam" ? "you fucking moron" "unmitigated bullshit" "biased source" "yeah, well I bet Al Qaeda is predicting a Kerry win also" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Hahaha, gotta love it. Damn it, the one time I actually feel like posting at TSM, nobody's on. Fuck it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Hahaha, gotta love it. Damn it, the one time I actually feel like posting at TSM, nobody's on. Fuck it. Tyler, seriously is it me, or is the night activity at TSM dead nowadays? I remember back in the day, CE forums were kicking like crazy way into the late-night.......what happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I dunno. Maybe it'll come back once college starts back up again. I do remember some late night romps; perhaps they simply have to get started earlier to catch on and keep people up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I'm feeling feisty tonight. You fucking moron, I'm so sick of your unmitigated bullshit and your biased sources. You're predicting a Kerry win? Yeah, well I bet Al Qaeda is predicting a Kerry win also. And did you know he served in Vietnam? Happy? Oh, and I don't post on TSM that much late-night because I go to bed early because of my job. That's my excuse... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Based on polling, Kerry would annihilate Bush in the electoral college. Trust me, I've been watching them come in for months now. If you don't believe me, you can look at PollingReport.com. It really, truly would be a landslide, even if the useless national "trial heat" polls have it as Kerry 50-Bush 47 I'm looking at the polls of realclearpolitics.com --- and NONE of the swing states seem to be outside the margin of error presently. I'm still sticking with my historical perspective: If a challenger does not give a real reason for people to vote for him --- namely, fairly sizable differences in present policy --- they will not win the election. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Any predictions for the congressional elections? Specific seats and overall loss/gain would be interesting. The only one the press has talked about a lot is Obama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Any predictions for the congressional elections? Specific seats and overall loss/gain would be interesting. The only one the press has talked about a lot is Obama. There is not anything to indicate a massive turnover. It seems like a fairly safe bet that the Republicans will pick up a Senate seat here in SC (Fritz Hollings is retiring). The Democrat Inez Tannenbaum is having some huge campaign staff shake-ups as of late, which tends to be a sign of problems. I suspect that if Bush wins, the Republicans will pick up, maybe, 4 or 5 seats in the House and perhaps 2 in the Senate. If Kerry wins, the GOP still will pick up 2 or so seats in the House and might break-even in the Senate. I don't see Kerry having coattails. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Based on polling, Kerry would annihilate Bush in the electoral college. Trust me, I've been watching them come in for months now. If you don't believe me, you can look at PollingReport.com. It really, truly would be a landslide, even if the useless national "trial heat" polls have it as Kerry 50-Bush 47 I'm looking at the polls of realclearpolitics.com --- and NONE of the swing states seem to be outside the margin of error presently. I'm still sticking with my historical perspective: If a challenger does not give a real reason for people to vote for him --- namely, fairly sizable differences in present policy --- they will not win the election. -=Mike has a massive panic attack......a nice calm response~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
