Maybe Cleeland can explain this

[Guest MikeSC]

Max Cleeland has argued that Bush has attacked three Vietnam vets: McCain, Kerry, and himself.

 

So, why exactly did he accept a position offered by Bush and the Republican Congress to the Import/Export Bank. $136,000/year to do virtually nothing --- and rather than saying "no" to a guy he thinks so little of, he accepted it happily.

 

So, how can Bush "attack" you --- yet offer you a cushy, high-paying position?

-=Mike

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Not only that, Cleland makes the job sound less cushy than the NRO has reported.

 

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:03A99...22+export&hl=en

 

Mr. Chairman, Senator Sarbanes, distinguished Members of this Committee and my former colleagues.

 

It is good to be back home in the United States Senate where I spent six years of my life serving the people of Georgia and the United States. I am honored to have this opportunity, if this committee so decides, to have a new home at the Export-Import Bank (Ex-Im Bank). I would like to thank the Minority Leader, Senator Tom Daschle and President Bush for the opportunity to continue my service in public life. As a former chairman of the Ex-Im Bank, Mr. John Robson, once declared before this committee, “…I relish this new challenge because I have never found a canvas as big to paint on as public service offers…”

 

But, what kind of picture shall we working together paint? The picture I would like to paint over the course of my tenure on Ex-Im Bank’s Board is of an expanding economy that creates jobs. One way to maximize the jobs created in this country is by an expansion of exports. Ex-Im Bank is needed now more than ever to create jobs now here in America. Since its creation by President Franklin Roosevelt almost 70 years ago, this marvelous agency is one of the tremendous tools we have at our disposal to reverse the downturn in the job market.

 

In 2003, Ex-Im Bank created and sustained thousands of American jobs through $14 billion dollars in support of this nation’s exports. In my home state of Georgia over the last few years, he Bank has supported over $600 million dollars in exports for 126 different companies in 45 separate communities. This is a picture of job creation and support for our exports I would like to paint for my state and my nation were I to be confirmed by the United States Senate.

 

Lastly, I think my service in this body on the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, especially my service on the Subcommittee on Telecommunications and Subcommittee on Aviation, will stand me in good stead as I attempt to make my contributions to the Bank’s decisions. I am especially hopeful that I can become a spokesperson for the evolution of small business in America since I spent six years on the Small Business Committee as well.

 

Thank you for your time, Mr. Chairman, Senator Sarbanes and Members of the committee. I would especially like to thank my potential colleagues, Ms. April Foley and Mr. Joe Grandmaison for helping me prepare for today’s hearing. I would like to especially thank Chairman Merrill for his continued support and advice these past weeks. They and the distinguished members of Ex-Im Bank’s staff have been exceptional in their assistance.

 

Thank you again Mr. Chairman. I ask you and the Committee for your support as a Director of Ex-Im Bank.

 

Those Ex-Im people have big egos.

 

Misc. info:

http://www.georgiatrend.com/site/page5966.html

 

Former Georgia Sen. Max Cleland has been nominated as one of five directors for the Export-Import Bank, which provides financial assistance and insurance to U.S. companies to help them compete against foreign businesses. Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., submitted Cleland's name for the four-year term, and President Bush is expected to appoint him.

 

One more thing i've found is Cleland was on the 9/11 commission and either resigned due to his feelings that Bush was stonewalling the commission or to except the Ex-Im job. Either way, if Cleland stayed on the commission, i'm sure 'major head explosions' would have occured.

 

So, the point you're making is that Max Cleland is an ingrate because Bush appointed him to be a bank director? I'm sure the opportunity of being a bank director is something that requires stringent loyalty. As for the money, none of us know what Cleland does with it. He could be using it for good things, something with a ray gun or nothing.

 

As for Bush following though to offer a spot to Cleland. He's a uniter, remember?

[Guest MikeSC]

Not only that, Cleland makes the job sound less cushy than the NRO has reported.

The Import/Export bank is a completely cushy job. And since he felt that "Bush's" (I know, Chambliss and Bush DO sound alike) "attack" on him was like a "second grenade" to him --- it seems odd that he'd work for him.

 

People who cause me great harm do not, as a rule, have an ability to get me to help them with a damned thing.

One more thing i've found is Cleland was on the 9/11 commission and either resigned due to his feelings that Bush was stonewalling the commission or to except the Ex-Im job. Either way, if Cleland stayed on the commission, i'm sure 'major head explosions' would have occured.

Well, seeing as how inept Bob Kerrey was on said Commission --- I have little doubt of that.

So, the point you're making is that Max Cleland is an ingrate because Bush appointed him to be a bank director?

No, a hypocrite for accepting a job from somebody who, he claims, caused him so much pain.

I'm sure the opportunity of being a bank director is something that requires stringent loyalty. As for the money, none of us know what Cleland does with it. He could be using it for good things, something with a ray gun or nothing.

We can all agree he almost definitely does not need it to survive on.

As for Bush following though to offer a spot to Cleland. He's a uniter, remember?

If Bush caused him so much pain --- he should've told Bush no.

 

He also should've given the letter to the person Bush sent out to accept it --- and to give him Bush's response. But he didn't.

 

Nice to see the Democrats are stooping to actually using Michael Moore techniques in their campaigns now.

-=Mike

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

The Import/Export bank is a completely cushy job.

probably. Outside of Hollywood, most jobs with 'director' in the name are a bit cushy

 

And since he felt that "Bush's" (I know, Chambliss and Bush DO sound alike) "attack" on him was like a "second grenade" to him --- it seems odd that he'd work for him.

 

I'd imagine he did it more for the Ex-Im-ness than for the 'working for Bush'. Either that, or he really loves that check.

 

People who cause me great harm do not, as a rule, have an ability to get me to help them with a damned thing.

 

Not a big fan of forgiveness, are you?

 

Although I'm not too sure how accepting an appointment is that much help.

 

Granted, due to my lack of ESP, I am unable to tell you more about why Bush and Cleland did all that. And if I had ESP, I would use it to get women. That's an off-topic note.

 

Well, seeing as how inept Bob Kerrey was on said Commission --- I have little doubt of that.

 

Kerrey replaced Cleland too.

 

No, a hypocrite for accepting a job from somebody who, he claims, caused him so much pain.

 

You may know a bit about the Ex-Im, but who would Cleland be working for?

 

Another question: It sounds like Cleland would say that, but do you have a source to back that up? just curious

 

We can all agree he almost definitely does not need it to survive on.

 

Same goes with a lot of these retired politicans who get director jobs from various corporations.

 

If Bush caused him so much pain --- he should've told Bush no.

 

granted, I'm not totally sure on the timeline, but maybe Ex-Im was less frustrating to him than being on the 9/11 commission.

 

He also should've given the letter to the person Bush sent out to accept it --- and to give him Bush's response. But he didn't.

 

He came to the ranch to give the letter to Bush. Was the President too busy to come out? I'd imagine in Texas in August, if somebody comes with a letter for you, you come out, and then maybe you invite him to come in the ranch. Something to show hospitality.

 

Instead we get this:

 

 

Nice to see the Democrats are stooping to actually using Michael Moore techniques in their campaigns now.

 

There's no way to deny it wasn't a bit of a publicity stunt. They announced it. And reporters don't usually hang out in that spot anyways. Politics is cheap sometimes. I'm sure that the first "photo-op" involved a politician.

 

I'm sure Max will try Fed-Ex next time.

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Ah, right. Campaign stunts never happened before Moore.

[Guest MikeSC]

Ah, right. Campaign stunts never happened before Moore.

Actually, no --- not like this.

 

Then again, Cleland has become the rent-a-bitch for the DNC since 2002.

-=Mike

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Quit being mean to Maxie -- he served in Vietnam, you know...

[Guest MikeSC]

Quit being mean to Maxie -- he served in Vietnam, you know...

You think I'm mean?

 

Get a load of this!

Cleland drops a political grenade

Ann Coulter (archive)

 

February 12, 2004 |  Print |  Send

 

Former Sen. Max Cleland is the Democrats' designated hysteric about George Bush's National Guard service. A triple amputee and Vietnam veteran, Cleland is making the rounds on talk TV, basking in the affection of liberals who have suddenly become jock-sniffers for war veterans and working himself into a lather about President Bush's military service. Citing such renowned military experts as Molly Ivins, Cleland indignantly demands further investigation into Bush's service with the Texas Air National Guard.

 

Bush's National Guard service is the most thoroughly investigated event since the Kennedy assassination. But the Democrats will accept only two possible conclusions to their baseless accusations: (1) Bush was "AWOL," or (2) the matter needs further investigation.

 

Thirty years ago, Bush was granted an honorable discharge from the National Guard, which would seem to put the matter to rest. But liberals want proof that Bush actually deserved his honorable discharge. (Since when did the party of Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd get so obsessed with honor?)

 

On "Hardball" Monday night, Cleland demanded to see Bush's pay stubs for the disputed period of time, May 1972 to May 1973. "If he was getting paid for his weekend warrior work," Cleland said, "he should have some pay stubs to show it."

 

The next day, the White House produced the pay stubs. This confirmed what has been confirmed 1 million times before: After taking the summer off, Bush reported for duty nine times between Nov. 29, 1972, and May 24, 1973 – more than enough times to fulfill his Guard duties. (And nine times more than Bill Clinton, Barney Frank or Chuck Schumer did during the same period.)

 

All this has been reported – with documentation – many times by many news organizations. George magazine had Bush's National Guard records 3 1/2 years ago.

 

All available evidence keeps confirming Bush's honorable service with the Guard, which leads liberals to conclude ... further investigation is needed! No evidence will ever be enough evidence. That Bush skipped out on his National Guard service is one of liberals' many nondisprovable beliefs, like global warming.

 

Cleland also expressed outrage that Bush left the National Guard nine months early in 1973 to go to Harvard Business School. On "Hardball," Cleland testily remarked: "I just know a whole lot of veterans who would have loved to have worked things out with the military and adjusted their tour of duty." (Cleland already knows one – Al Gore!)

 

When Bush left the National Guard in 1973 to go to business school, the war was over. It might as well have been 1986. Presidents Kennedy and Johnson had already lost the war, and President Nixon had ended it with the Paris peace accords in January. If Bush had demanded active combat, there was no war to send him to.

 

To put this in perspective, by 1973, John Kerry had already accused American soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam, thrown someone else's medals to the ground in an anti-war demonstration, and married his first heiress. Bill Clinton had just finished three years of law school and was about to embark upon a political career – which would include campaign events with Max Cleland.

 

Moreover, if we're going to start delving into exactly who did what back then, maybe Max Cleland should stop allowing Democrats to portray him as a war hero who lost his limbs taking enemy fire on the battlefields of Vietnam.

 

Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. In fact, Cleland could have dropped a grenade on his foot as a National Guardsman – or what Cleland sneeringly calls "weekend warriors." Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush, he happened to do it while in Vietnam.

 

There is more than a whiff of dishonesty in how Cleland is presented to the American people. Terry McAuliffe goes around saying, "Max Cleland, a triple amputee who left three limbs on the battlefield of Vietnam," was thrown out of office because Republicans "had the audacity to call Max Cleland unpatriotic." Mr. Cleland, a word of advice: When a slimy weasel like Terry McAuliffe is vouching for your combat record, it's time to sound "retreat" on that subject.

 

Needless to say, no one ever challenged Cleland's "patriotism." His performance in the Senate was the issue, which should not have come as a bolt out of the blue inasmuch as he was running for re-election to the Senate. Sen. Cleland had refused to vote for the Homeland Security bill unless it was chock-full of pro-union perks that would have jeopardized national security. ("OH, MY GOD! A HIJACKED PLANE IS HEADED FOR THE WHITE HOUSE!" "Sorry, I'm on my break. Please call back in two hours.")

 

The good people of Georgia – who do not need lectures on admiring military service – gave Cleland one pass for being a Vietnam veteran. He didn't get a lifetime pass.

 

Indeed, if Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. senator in the first place. Maybe he'd be the best pharmacist in Atlanta, but not a U.S. senator. He got into office on the basis of serving in Vietnam and was thrown out for his performance as a senator.

 

Cleland wore the uniform, he was in Vietnam, and he has shown courage by going on to lead a productive life. But he didn't "give his limbs for his country," or leave them "on the battlefield." There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight. That could have happened in the Texas National Guard – which Cleland denigrates while demanding his own sanctification.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoul...c20040212.shtml

Mean --- but Cleland is acting like a sandy vagina.

-=Mike

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