NFL Draft best and worst

[Guest GreatOne]

Unless there's a two-year old thread here that I'm not really interested in going back and reading.............

 

I gotta go back-to-back here, starting w the worst and then best, cause for me they're back to back.

 

Seahawks WORST:

 

2002-This was, not coincidentally, the last time Mike Holmgren was in charge of the draft as GM, we bring the suck and lots of it.

 

Jerramy Stevens: Not only was he projected as a third rounder at best (and by everybody's account, should have gone back to UW for his senior year), but the even worse thing is if Ryan Hannam (the other tight end they took) hadn't been so damn injured the last two years, Stevens might be barely holding him off for the no. 2 spot. He's said to have a breakout year in '04, it's about damn time. F

 

Maurice Morris: Serviceable back, had a few mental lapses (like forgetting to get the other foot down in the playoff loss last year). I still don't think that the Hawks can afford to let Alexander go FA next year and have him as their #1 back.

 

Anton Palepoi: GOOD...GOD!!!!!!! Although I guess he can't really be at fault since it was Holmgren that took him from fifth round-undrafted free agent projection and made him a second rounder.

 

Kris Richard, Terreal Bierria: Both should be good to go with playing time. Having said that the Hawks are a lack of experience at SS (Bierria and Boulware) from being perhaps the best secondary in the NFC. Then again Hamlin laid out Stallworth and Boldin in his first two games as a pro so what do I know?

 

Ryan Hannam: see Stevens, Jerramy

 

Craig Jarrett, Jeff Kelly: nice knowin you..........

 

Seahawks BEST:

 

I'm taking a gamble here but I'll take 2003 over 1990 just slightly (and less picks to keep track of).

 

Marcus Trufant: Of course personal bias admitted (hey when you're talking about Ryan Leaf as the biggest bust ever, where's that Emtman guy--I don't give a flying fuck if he was hurt, who's fault is that?), but he'll eventually be the shutdown corner Springs was in 97-98 and most of 99. Thank GOD they didn't take 'next-in-a-long-line-Rams-of-busts' Jimmy Kennedy.

 

Ken Hamlin: See above.

 

Wayne Hunter: The hope is that when the Hawks eventually let Walter Jones go as a free agent, he'll be ready to start at LT. Didn't get off to a good start by being inactive all year last year, but the potential is there.

 

Seneca Wallace: Made dramatic enough improvements in the preseason to considered for no. 2, hell he already bitchslapped Brock Huard, who wouldn't even have made the team had he NOT gone on IR.

 

Solomon Bates: Could become starting MLB later in the year.

 

Chris Davis: Two years, two injuries. Tough way for a special teams asskicker to make the team as the idea was probably to replace Heath Evans with him.

 

Rashad Moore: Probably not starting material, but well beyond the underachiever label some tagged him with.

 

Josh Brown: Hawks' best kicker since John Kasay (yes that includes former Coug kicker Rian Lindell).

 

I could nominate others (1999, and the infamous dealt away no. 2 pick that ended up being some Heisman winner out of Pitt back in '77 as worst; '90 being the best--Wooden, Warren, Tez) but I'll stick with what I got.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Steelers:

 

Best -- 1974.

 

Swann. Lambert. Stallworth. Mike Webster.

 

4 Hall of Famers drafted in one draft.

 

Any questions?

 

 

 

Worst --- See: any year between '93 and '98. I'll pick '97 for shits and giggles.

 

1 24 Scott, Chad CB Maryland

 

-- ONE good year, 2001, in which he lived up to his potential. Otherwise, he's been a complete abomination of a corner who somehow finds himself still employed. He jumps routes like a madman and gets beat like a fucking woman most of the time.

 

2 53 Blackwell, Will WR San Diego State

 

-- HAH! Slow, short, and bad hands. Never even flashed brilliance.

 

3 82 Wiggins, Paul T Oregon

 

-- Turnstiles.

 

3 91 Vrabel, Mike OLB Ohio State

 

-- Fucking great LB... after he left Pittsburgh. Never did shit for the Steelers.

 

5 154 Jones, George RB San Diego State

 

-- Backup RB for two years. Out of the league in 3.

 

6 186 Porter, Daryl S Boston College

 

-- Who?

 

6 199 Manuel, Rod DE Oklahoma

 

-- The?

 

7 223 Adams, Michael WR Texas

 

-- Fuck?

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New England Patriots

Best: 2002

- Daniel Graham: Solid receiving TE who could be even better if he caught the ball more

- Deion Branch: Dependable WR prone to big games. As shown when he replaced an injured Troy Brown as a starter during the regular season.

- Rohan Davey: NFL Europe MVP~!

- Jarvis Green: Capable of being a very solid DE.

- Antwoine Womack: Never did anything.

- David Givens: A reliable #3 WR capable of starting any game.

 

Worst: 2001

- Richard Seymour: Stud defensive player.

- Matt Light: Somewhat mediocre tackle(shows solid play at times but not enough)

- Brock Williams: Who?

- Kenyatta Jones: Hyped offensive lineman who never really panned out

- Jabari Holloway: Did nothing with us

- Hakim Akbar: Who...again?

- Arther Love: WHO???

- Leonard Myers: Decent but unspectacular S

- Owen Pochman: Yep...him!

- T.J. Turner: Who?

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Vikings Worst: Watching Dallas use all the Herschel Walker trade picks to make their 90's dynasty

[Brett Favre 0]

I'll just got with the best draft from my team:

 

New York Jets: 2000

 

1 12 12 Shaun Ellis Tennessee DE

1 13 13 John Abraham South Carolina LB

1 18 18 Chad Pennington Marshall QB

1 27 27 Anthony Becht West Virginia TE

3 16 78 Laveranues Coles Florida State WR

 

That, is beauty. Other notables from other years include Santana Moss, Dewayne Robertson (hopefully turns out great), Keyshawn Johnson, Marvin Jones, James Farrior, Ken O'Brien, Marvin Jones and Aaron Glenn as a few good men.

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Cowboys Worst - 1998.. Passing on the man who will go down as the greatest WR to ever play the game, Randy Moss, to draft GREG FUCKING ELLIS.

 

Yes, a lot of teams passed on Moss, but EVERYONE knew Dallas should take him. They needed to replace Irvin who was on his last legs, everyone on ESPN was screaming for Dallas to take him, Moss wanted go come here.. it was a no brainer.

 

I don't even remember the rest of that draft, I was too pissed to watch it.

[Dr. Tom 0]

The Ravens always draft well. Their first draft gave them Ray Lewis and Jonathan Ogden, so I guess that one is the best, but they haven't had a bad one since moving to Charm City.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

2004 doesn't seem to be too hot for Baltimore.

[Guest GreatOne]

Devard F'N Darling BITCH!!!!!

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

LOL.

 

ROCK ON, YOU DRAFTED A CAREER SLOT RECIEVER!

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

3 91 Vrabel, Mike OLB Ohio State

 

-- Fucking great LB... after he left Pittsburgh. Never did shit for the Steelers.

Did the Steelers use him as a lineman in Pittsburgh?

 

And when was Huey Richardson drafted?...

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

If I remember right (doutbful), Vrabel was a DE in college, and the Steelers tried to use him like the Ravens do now with Suggs.

 

I'm trying to do the Bears, but I can't decide which draft was worst. Enis, McNown, Enis, McNown...

[Guest Redhawk]

Cowboys Worst - 1998.. Passing on the man who will go down as the greatest WR to ever play the game, Randy Moss, to draft GREG FUCKING ELLIS.

 

Yes, a lot of teams passed on Moss, but EVERYONE knew Dallas should take him. They needed to replace Irvin who was on his last legs, everyone on ESPN was screaming for Dallas to take him, Moss wanted go come here.. it was a no brainer.

 

I don't even remember the rest of that draft, I was too pissed to watch it.

And Moss made them pay for passing him up that Thanksgiving. What'd he have, like, 3 touchdowns on 'em?

[Guest GreatOne]

LOL.

 

ROCK ON, YOU DRAFTED A CAREER SLOT RECIEVER!

Um,

 

is my team the Ravens?

 

(Looks back at original post)

 

Nope.

 

Then again using your logic, Jerry Porter and Lavaranues Coles are 'career slot receivers'.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Jesus, can't you two get along? This isn't CE...

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Was Huey drafted at all? I thought he was an UDFA.

 

Or maybe I'm thinking of someone different.

Then again using your logic, Jerry Porter and Lavaranues Coles are 'career slot receivers'.

 

Jerry Porter has done what so far in his career?

 

Been a slot reciever. Nothing more.

 

Laverneus Coles is an above average #1/2 reciever (depending on the team he plays for) who gets hurt too much. Darling hasn't impressed me much, which doesn't surprise anyone. Not much is expected for a non first round reciever, but sometimes they pan out (Hines Ward)

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

the man who will go down as the greatest WR to ever play the game, Randy Moss,

I don't think so, Tim.

[Guest GreatOne]

Jerry Porter has done what so far in his career?

 

Been a slot reciever. Nothing more.

 

Laverneus Coles is an above average #1/2 reciever (depending on the team he plays for) who gets hurt too much. Darling hasn't impressed me much, which doesn't surprise anyone. Not much is expected for a non first round reciever, but sometimes they pan out (Hines Ward)

Well of course the Raiders were, you know, trotting out the Grandpas for the last three years.

 

Admittedly Darling should have gone back for his senior year--where he'd have more of a shot at getting a first round pick.

 

And then, the Steeler gets a free pass, what a fucking shock!!!!!!!!!

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the man who will go down as the greatest WR to ever play the game, Randy Moss,

I don't think so, Tim.

He's already the most talented ever, and by the time he retires he'll have the #'s.

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the man who will go down as the greatest WR to ever play the game, Randy Moss,

I don't think so, Tim.

He's already the most talented ever, and by the time he retires he'll have the #'s.

He won't catch Rice. Moss relies too much on athleticism and not enough on skill/smarts. He will have a HUGE decline once he ages, unlike Rice who was putting up good numbers for a long time.

 

And let's not forget, as recent as two years ago, Marvin Harrison was blowing away anything Moss was doing.

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I'll tackle the Bengals worst: 1999

 

Round 1: Akili Smith Why add anything else?

 

Round 2: Charles Fisher Had the trifecta of ligament tears in his 1st career game, never played again.

 

Round 3: Cory Hall Playing for the Falcons now, rarely started for the Bengals.

 

Round 4: Craig Yeast Currently playing in the CFL.

 

Round 5: Nick Luchey Playing in Green Bay, too busy changing his name while in Cincy to be productive.

 

Round 6/7/7/7: Kelly Gregg, Tony Coats, Scott Covington, Donald Broomfield

 

Hall left the team after the 2001 season and Luchey left after 2002. meaning he was the senior man from that draft class at 4 years.

 

With the exception for New Orleans (Ricky Williams) the Bengals were the only team from that year's draft that did not have a 5th year player from their own draft.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

And then, the Steeler gets a free pass, what a fucking shock!!!!!!!!!

 

 

I just effectively said that every draft between '93 and '98 sucked. What else do you want from me? I got in an argument with someone who said every Ravens draft has been great. Let's not compare homerism, toolshed.

[Guest GreatOne]

When did I say every Ravens draft was great? Hell when did I say ONE was great?

 

And I didn't even know the Ravens were even my team, hell you might have deduced that from, I don't know, the first post of this thread, doorstop.

 

Yeah I proudly claim my Cougars (Darling, hello?), but seeing that you couldn't drop Pitt after they lost in the NCAA Tournament fast enough you might have point about homerism.