Has the tag division ever seemed this lost before?

[Youth N Asia 0]

I can't think of a time before when the tag titles just seem so useless. And the sad thing is I seem to think this every few months, it's just getting worse.

 

RAW TAG TITLES.

 

Champs: Grenier & Conway...at the start of the war this gimmick made sense. But we've forgotten all about hating the French now. They're not getting near the heat they should for guys who've had the belts almost 4 months now. They're just keeping the belts on them cause they have no idea what to do with them. I keep forgetting they're the champs till I see them with the belts on RAW. Split the team and let Conway do something.

 

Rhyno & Tajiri...while I like the idea of the team, it's just another makeshift. The feud with La Res just seemed pointless and badly booked. Now they really don't have anything to do.

 

Hurricane & Rosey...almost never on RAW anymore. And with the tag shortage they should be.

 

Flair & Batista...I like the idea of the team, but they're pretty much just doing the HHH thing now and not really even going after the belts.

 

That's basicaly the entire tag divison...4 teams, 1 complete makeshift, 1 never on tv, and 1 unover pair of champs.

 

Eugene & Regal or Benoit & Regal haven't teamed long enough to really be teams, but with how lost they are right now 2 out of the 3 are probably the next tag team champions.

 

SMACKDOWN TAG TITLES

 

Champs: Suzuki & Dupree...how these two got the titles I'll never know. Dupree's running a dead gimmick and not getting near the response he used to, and Kenzo's getting a big push despite not being able to work a watchable match or getting any real heat. Great champs.

 

Kidman & London...makeshift team, but wow, it actually worked. Cool title win, working nice matches together...time to break them up. I hate the WWE, they finally find something good to do with two guys they have nothing else for, and they break them up in no time at all. They'll probably tag a few more times and split up.

 

The Dudley Boyz...If heels are going to have the titles then it should be these guys. The most over team in the WWE right now, and they're reduced to being Spike's bodygaurd. Which isn't that bad, but they should have the titles right now just dominating people trying to CREATE a tag divison.

 

The Bashams...wow, they f'd thing one up badly. They gave them a long tag title run before ever getting over, and kept the belts on them despite not being over. For two guys who worked well together in OVW the WWE managed to give them a gimmick that couldn't be any more boring. Time for a split, let Doug grow his hair out and stick Danny with someone else.

 

Haas & Rico...are they still a team?

 

Holly & Gunn...Gunn's never been over, other than a part of DX, in a gay relationship, or feuding with The Rock. So they stuck him with another guy who was never really over. While Holly gets a nice enough pop he never does anything. Another makeshift filler team.

 

Noble & Chavo...if they keep them together this could be a good team, but without Kidman and London to win the titles from I don't ever see them getting them.

 

Stamboli & Nunzio...I can like the team, but they don't really come off as any real threat to the titles.

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They don't even give teams a chance to team anymore before putting the belts on them or putting them in title feuds.

 

So we have maybe 10-12 legit teams on both shows...and yet the belts are on 4 guys that just aren't getting any noise from the crowd.

 

Maybe I'm wrong on this, but these belts have never seemed so worthless.

[razazteca 0]

The tag team division has always been 4 teams in the on going boring feuds that nobody really pays attention to.

[AndrewTS 0]

The tag team division has always been 4 teams in the on going boring feuds that nobody really pays attention to.

Come on, as recently as 2000/2001 we had long-running, interesting tag title feuds all the time, with plenty of talented teams to pull them off.

 

Even the tag title feuds during the Invasion were interested a lot of the time.

 

The Smackdown tag division ruled until the Bashams got the titles.

 

I'll take the current tag storylines over Godwinns/Smoking Gunns, though.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

To Youth N Asia's assesment of Rhyno and Tajiri:

 

I partially disagree with this. While they are a thrown together team, and they have had battles in the past, the potential for something as a team is there.

 

First, get them a team name. I know some people didn't like it, but I always thought the name "The Extremists" would work for their tag team.

 

Secondly, give them something different than the other tag teams. The other teams like to try and wrestle the belts away...fine, have Tajiri and Rhyno be the willing to do whatever it takes bounty hunter type tag team. Bring some Hardcore Tag Team bouts to let them bring some ECW style to their team, and further solidify the name "The Extremists" for them.

 

...maybe I'm just saying that because I like them as a team though. Who knows?

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Oh, and to when the tag title scene looked more pathetic...

 

What about one of the early reigns of the New Age Outlaws?

[razazteca 0]

Oh, and to when the tag title scene looked more pathetic...

 

What about one of the early reigns of the New Age Outlaws?

It was JR and the other announcers proclaiming that they were the greatest tag team in the history of WWF and the people bought the lie.

[cabbageboy 0]

I'd say the last NAO run was the worst by far. At least they did some amusing dickhead heel stuff in the first reign. But the last run was like watching two guys who weren't over anymore desperately hanging on for dear life and it was pathetic.

 

Tonight was baffling, the tag match I mean. Why keep the belts on La Rez at this point? We all knew HHH was getting his belt back so why not give the crowd a LITTLE bit to be happy about and put the titles on Rhino and Tajiri?

[The Czech Republic 0]

Oh, and to when the tag title scene looked more pathetic...

 

What about one of the early reigns of the New Age Outlaws?

It was JR and the other announcers proclaiming that they were the greatest tag team in the history of WWF and the people bought the lie.

Oh God. I remember having to debunk that lie every day on the 6th grade playground. Theyd be like "omg best team ever!" and I'd be like "No! British Bulldogs, Hart Foundation, LOD, Demolition, Rockers, all better!" and they'd be all "d00d ur wrong"

 

Oh well. Hard to be a 6th grade smark. What the New Age Outlaws WERE the best of, however, was being two mid-carders thrown together and achieving success. None of the current permutations are getting over, but Road Dog and Billy Gunn were able to.

[The Niggardly King 0]

Two new tag teams that should just be put together

 

For RAW: Chuck Palumbo and Maven(Tweeners)

 

For Smackdown: Akio and Shannon Moore(Face)

[Guest fanofcoils]

Mere exposure won't make anyone care about these jokers (Rhyno and Tajiri). What a waste right now and basically the past 3 years in the tag scene on Raw.

[The Czech Republic 0]

First, let's reunite the WGTT. That's the first step.

 

Cappotelli & Hennegan should be re-united as a "tag-team specialists" duo, with some sort of "______ Express" name.

 

Give Rhyno and Tajiri the MVC moniker, matching tights, and some sort of Japanese death-metal music.

 

Shannon Moore, Shane Helms, and Johnny Jeter can be 3Count, since nobody gives a flying fuck about Moore these days, the Hurricane gimmick has run its course, and Johnny Jeter is either a good talker or good wrestler. I forgot which.

 

Tomko and Fertig should be a businessman and his mentally retarded brother. They get into capers. I'm just kidding.

[Guest JMA]

I agree that the current tag division on both brands is hideous. While I like the idea of Rhyno and Tajiri being a team, they seem like they've just been thrown together. Hell, have they even cut a single promo as a tag-team?

[Guest DeathBecomesYou]

Give Rhyno and Tajiri the MVC moniker, matching tights, and some sort of Japanese death-metal music.

I really like that idea a lot, make them seem like an actual team and all. It might just be me, but i'd love to see the next time Rhyno and Tajiri team up, to just have Rhyno completely snap and revert to his ECW self and just fucking kill everyone. Surely i'm not the only one who'd mark for Rhyno doing the piledriver off the ring apron?

[King Cucaracha 0]

Cappotelli & Hennegan should be re-united as a "tag-team specialists" duo, with some sort of "______ Express" name.

Give them Cornette as a manager and re-package them as the New, New Midnight Express. Sure, they'd probably get little to no reaction for the first few weeks...and they're destined for a feud with Holly and Gunn (Billy, although bringing Bart back for a battle of the MXes would be 'logical'), but after that they should be ok. Plus, Cornette needs to be back on TV.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

They really messed up a great chance to have a good/great tag scene on SD. Have Knoble stay busy with London/Kidman until Chavo gets back, then feud those 2 teams. Stretch out the friction between London/Kidman, and have them drop the belts to Chavo/Knoble. London/Kidman can then break up & feud, while Knoble/Chavo go on to feud with the FBI (who held a non-title win over the previous champs). That's enough to keep those 6 guys busy through the end of the year, with the added bonus of producing good/great matches. Maybe have FBI feud w/ the Dudleyz (with the Dudz putting them over) to get them ready for Chavo/Knoble. Throw in RVD/Rey, and Holly/Gunn (to put over Chavo/Knoble), and SD could have had a rocking tag scene.

[Fro 0]

There are four pretty good teams in OVW right now (Nova/Aaron Stevens/Inferno, Chris Cage/Tank Toland, Seth Skyfire/Mac Johnson, Brent Albright/Chris Masters). None of them are the Midnight Express or anything yet, but any of them would be great additions to the roster. Johnny Nitro and Joey Matthews are pretty good together too, although they haven't been working a lot of tags.

 

Knowing WWE, we'll probably all those teams broken up and Mark Magnus's Arab gimmick team before that.

 

*rolls eyes*

 

I'd reteam Akio/Noble and Moore/Hurricane, although not under their old gimmicks, mention that they were WCW Tag Champs. IMHO, about everyone who's stuck in Sunday Night Heat/Velocity hell should be booked in a tag team. They can still work singles and job in singles matches, while being productive as a tag team. Putting Fertig (Mordecai) with bland Tomko is a good idea as well since Fertig can sorta talk and Tomko can sort of wrestle.

[The Czech Republic 0]

What happened to Christian York and Joey Matthews? Of course, we can't have two Christians on the roster, so we'd have to name him Dick or something.

[Youth N Asia 0]

To Youth N Asia's assesment of Rhyno and Tajiri:

 

I partially disagree with this. While they are a thrown together team, and they have had battles in the past, the potential for something as a team is there.

With that being said, the WWE seems to be ignoring all things ECW. I know they were both in Corino's stable for a little while, but the WWE would never acknowledge that, so it's more or less another makeshift.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Benoit & Regal would fucking own as tag champs.

 

I hope they reunite Charlie & Rico when Rico returns, they had a great title run.

[Guest Duncan Eternia]

Tomko and Fertig should be a businessman and his mentally retarded brother. They get into capers. I'm just kidding.

LOL

[Guest Coffey]

It's not WWE's fault that The Fabulous Freebirds are retired as in-ring workers.

 

Seriously, the tag team scene has been in shambles for quite some time. No one really seems to care in the company, and because of that, a lot of American wrestling fans are apathetic to tag team wrestling. Maybe I should say a lot of WWE fans, I don't want to stereotype all fans of American wrestling.

 

It's sad really. Another lost art within the business. I thought things were starting to prosper. Wrestlers were using the tag rope again. Teams like La Résistance and Kidman/London were blossoming...The Dudley Boyz were still around. It looked like it COULD become something.

 

Of course, a lot of things in WWE land COULD become something...and they never do. I think the brand split is what's wrong with WWE tag team wrestling. It's too hard to have a sizeable number of tag teams with their rosters spread out amongst two shows. Throw-away tag teams, like Rhyno/Tajiri or Booker T./Goldust, never work.

[Guest anikolas]

Throw-away tag teams, like Rhyno/Tajiri or Booker T./Goldust, never work.

 

actually, Booker T and Goldust were massively over, until they got screwed over by politics and the belts were taken away from them.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

What happened to Christian York and Joey Matthews? Of course, we can't have two Christians on the roster, so we'd have to name him Dick or something.

Dick York and Joey Matthews!!!! I can smell the T-shirts already.....

[Guest Coffey]

Throw-away tag teams, like Rhyno/Tajiri or Booker T./Goldust, never work.

 

actually, Booker T and Goldust were massively over, until they got screwed over by politics and the belts were taken away from them.

So, what you're saying is that it didn't work? Alright. There's more to being a successful tag team than being over for a month or two. You have to stay over.

[The Czech Republic 0]

What happened to Christian York and Joey Matthews? Of course, we can't have two Christians on the roster, so we'd have to name him Dick or something.

Dick York and Joey Matthews!!!! I can smell the T-shirts already.....

Maybe Slaughter should get in on this. Dick York. Dick(ish) Sarge(nt). Sergeant York.

[Guest Big Daddy V1]

What happened to Christian York and Joey Matthews? Of course, we can't have two Christians on the roster, so we'd have to name him Dick or something.

Dick York and Joey Matthews!!!! I can smell the T-shirts already.....

Maybe Slaughter should get in on this. Dick York. Dick(ish) Sarge(nt). Sergeant York.

At least someone payed attention to Wayne's World...

 

But really, there are no tag teams left. I was actually excited for SD when London/Kidman were a team. They actually meant something with the belts on them.

[King Cucaracha 0]

When you think about most of the 'greener' OVW call-up guys who came up, nearly all were in tag teams down in OVW. Cornette obviously still has a soft-spot for the Tag Division. But as soon as they came up to the WWE, the tags got split.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Throw-away tag teams, like Rhyno/Tajiri or Booker T./Goldust, never work.

 

actually, Booker T and Goldust were massively over, until they got screwed over by politics and the belts were taken away from them.

So, what you're saying is that it didn't work? Alright. There's more to being a successful tag team than being over for a month or two. You have to stay over.

They were over for almost 6 months, until the WWF fucked up and took their titles away.

[Fro 0]

When you think about most of the 'greener' OVW call-up guys who came up, nearly all were in tag teams down in OVW. Cornette obviously still has a soft-spot for the Tag Division. But as soon as they came up to the WWE, the tags got split.

The reason is because tag teams are a great way to mask weaknesses, and green guys generally have a lot of those. If you put two guys together with the right combination, you're going to have a great tag team even though neither guy is a good singles wrestler.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Being tag-team specialists, a la the Midnights, really isn't that hard. Let me sum it up:

 

1) Fast tags, the psychology being that as soon you get the least bit tired, you substitute for a fresh guy, and on and on and on.

 

2) Lots of tag-team moves, preferably with their own names. Use one as a finisher.

 

3) Give the two team members a name and the same theme song, outfit, and so forth.

 

And WWE can't figure this out?