Guest Dynamite Kido Posted October 1, 2004 Report Posted October 1, 2004 Can anyone give a decent non-sarcastic reason for this list to be the way it is? I sure as hell can't.....
1234-5678 Posted October 1, 2004 Report Posted October 1, 2004 408. CJ ODoyle Hell yeah. Fuckin A right.
UseTheSledgehammerUh Posted October 1, 2004 Report Posted October 1, 2004 The list is based on kayfabe victories, win-loss, strength of competition, major accomplishments, etc. For guys like Eugene, Tomko, etc....count their success in OVW before coming to Raw in April.
Youth N Asia Posted October 2, 2004 Report Posted October 2, 2004 I think in 2004 more people know CZW, ROH, and IWA Midsouth than OVW...yet those are looked at as much less in these lists. Most of the good IWA guys are in the late 300s.
Guest Sturgis Posted October 2, 2004 Report Posted October 2, 2004 Yes but PWI doesn't mention CZW or IWA Mid-South unless it's in Arena/Indy Reports or their annual "State of the Independents reports. And ECWA doesn't get too much love, but PWI covers Super 8 every year, makes no damn sense.
Guest DeputyHawk Posted October 2, 2004 Report Posted October 2, 2004 No Briscoes in the PWI 500. How the hell can you miss them out? Sorry to shill, but if you're interested in an objective, representative list of "kayfabed" success in North American pro-wrestling, check out my Push-Me Poll on the main TSM site or in the links below. It's not as confused with win/loss records, natural talent and match quality as PWI, but based purely on how hard a wrestler is being pushed -which is the true guage of success in this industry. There are plenty of ROH, IWA Mid-South, CZW & PWG wrestlers in relatively high positions because I put the widely distributed taped shows on the same ranking level as Raws, Smackdowns & TNA PPVs. In the 2004 Push-Me Poll (accurate from Jan-Aug) Mark Briscoe is ranked 66, Jay Briscoe is ranked 68. DH
Youth N Asia Posted October 2, 2004 Report Posted October 2, 2004 They can still piss off...OVW is not that big of a deal
UseTheSledgehammerUh Posted October 2, 2004 Report Posted October 2, 2004 Al Snow has a mainstream WWE PPV victory in September 2003 at Unforgiven. The list ranks Sept 2003 to Aug 2004 btw.
The Mandarin Posted October 2, 2004 Report Posted October 2, 2004 -500. 2004 PWI 500 ($6.95, 70 pages, 25, N/A) This year's PWI 500 is a bust ... Found today in a local supermarket ... Easily the least detailed PWI 500 of all time ...No "full" biographies on numbers 2-10 (or 20)... Chalk it up to being busy with the 25th Anniversary Book, but it's still a disappointment ... Didn't buy it for the first time in eight years ... I miss WOW Magazine.
Youth N Asia Posted October 3, 2004 Report Posted October 3, 2004 Maybe after no one bought their TEN DOLLAR issue last year they thought it would be a good idea to cut back.
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