Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 I guess I'm going to have to continue to defend Weaver. Did he pitch well? No. End of discussion. It's not like he lost a 2-1 game where he gave up two runs in eight innings. THIS is an awful line. No two ways around it. IP H R ER BB K HR 4.2 8 6 6 2 4 0 He's blown it again on the biggest stage. He's a disaster. No he didn't pitch well, but Matt Morris could go out and give up that many runs and still have a chance at winning because his offense is so potent. Three runs usually isn't going to beat a team, let alone the best offensive team in baseball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 10, 2004 No he didn't pitch well, but Matt Morris could go out and give up that many runs and still have a chance at winning because his offense is so potent. And he would have pitched a shitty, shitty game. A bad offensive showing killed Mike Mussina in Game One of the ALDS. The lack of offense wasn't an issue with Weaver because he pitched SUCH a poor game. You only use the "well, his team didn't score" excuse if the pitcher throws a respectable game where he would have won with decent offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 LIMA TIME~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 I'm not saying he pitched a good game or even deserved a win. I'm saying that even if he had pitched a good game, there's a strong chance it wouldn't have been enough because of the lack of offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 10, 2004 I'm not saying he pitched a good game or even deserved a win. I'm saying that even if he had pitched a good game, there's a strong chance it wouldn't have been enough because of the lack of offense. And if he did, he would get credit. But he didn't. He shit the bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Jose Lima is officially the coolest baseball player ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 I know... I still crack up every time I see the clip of him singing the National Anthem. Is it even humanly possible to get more into singing a song than he does during that rendition? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Jose Lima and Carlos Zambrano should just hang out someday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 WHAT A GAME BY LIMA!!!! He is the only Dodger pitcher I have any faith in, and he showed why tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 One part of me really wishes that Morris would have parked a fastball in Lima's grill when he first came up to bat, just for all of those ridiculous theatrics he does. Another part of me applauds that the guy has literally resurrected his career and had a chance to shine on the biggest stage in the sport. Overall, exactly what I predicted happened - we got in trouble when Morris fell behind with some baserunners (and a momentary thanks to the umpires who blew TWO calls in the Lima Bunt fiasco) and they put some on him early. And Lima, who's been an ace at home all season, did exactly what I figured he'd do - steal one from the Cardinals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fanofcoils Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Talk about dropping the ball, espn.com's front page does not feature Jose Lima's amazing shutout of the Cardinals. This is like something from the ESPN top 100 list. Everyone thought the Dodgers were done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Right, everyone who forgot that Lima was 9-1 at home and that Matt Morris has a 6.02 ERA on the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fanofcoils Report post Posted October 10, 2004 That doesn't matter because when a team beats another team twice in a row to go up 2-0 in a series, that overrides anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Not really. Looking at the numbers, there's still a better chance for those to reign true than what's already transpired in two games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Talk about dropping the ball, espn.com's front page does not feature Jose Lima's amazing shutout over the Cardinals. This is like something from the ESPN top 100 list. Top 100 of what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fanofcoils Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Not really. Looking at the numbers, there's still a better chance for those to reign true than what's already transpired in two games. The general consensus was the Cardinals would sweep the Dodgers after going up 2-0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fanofcoils Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Talk about dropping the ball, espn.com's front page does not feature Jose Lima's amazing shutout of the Cardinals. This is like something from the ESPN top 100 list. Top 100 of what? Top 100 greatest moments of the past 25 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Talk about dropping the ball, espn.com's front page does not feature Jose Lima's amazing shutout of the Cardinals. This is like something from the ESPN top 100 list. Top 100 of what? Top 100 greatest moments of the past 25 years. You think that was a top 100 moment of the past 25 years? It probably wasn't a top 100 moment of this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Okay, so now they win the series in 4 instead of the sweep. If it ends up going 5 that's when the Cardinals might should start worrying a tad. In that case I can't see them losing Game 5 at home anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fanofcoils Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Talk about dropping the ball, espn.com's front page does not feature Jose Lima's amazing shutout of the Cardinals. This is like something from the ESPN top 100 list. Top 100 of what? Top 100 greatest moments of the past 25 years. You think that was a top 100 moment of the past 25 years? It probably wasn't a top 100 moment of this year. Not only did they shock people by winning, their starting pitcher shutout the best lineup in baseball. That definitely is worth consideration for a list like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck Woolery 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Talk about dropping the ball, espn.com's front page does not feature Jose Lima's amazing shutout of the Cardinals. This is like something from the ESPN top 100 list. Top 100 of what? Top 100 greatest moments of the past 25 years. You think that was a top 100 moment of the past 25 years? It probably wasn't a top 100 moment of this year. I believe he meant it was left off the front page, in similar fashion to all the moments left off the ESPN Top 100 list. Awesome fucking game by Lima, though. If the Dodgers go on to win this series, the ump error in the third inning is going to be huge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fanofcoils Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Talk about dropping the ball, espn.com's front page does not feature Jose Lima's amazing shutout of the Cardinals. This is like something from the ESPN top 100 list. Top 100 of what? Top 100 greatest moments of the past 25 years. You think that was a top 100 moment of the past 25 years? It probably wasn't a top 100 moment of this year. I believe he meant it was left off the front page, in similar fashion to all the moments left off the ESPN Top 100 list. Awesome fucking game by Lima, though. If the Dodgers go on to win this series, the ump error in the third inning is going to be huge. That isn't what I meant. It is what everyone else who replied thought so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J. Hungerford Smith 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Morris battled and pitched a decent game. He deserved better. Odalis Perez for the Dodgers tomorrow. Add that to the fact that Jeff Suppan was 10-1 on the road this year and that means there will be no game 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Go Cards you need to win tonight because A. I hate LA and B. winning puts Atlanta's game in the evening so I can watch it all and more importantly because Jaret Wright's evening numbers are better then day games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 10, 2004 I want the Cards to win tonight because I know a huge Cardinal fan, but part of me wants to see Weaver blow it in game five. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Did anyone see the pregame song with Lima? AHAHAHAHA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Lima is a middle-aged Dontrelle Willis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Lima is a middle-aged Dontrelle Willis. No, Lima is just a fucking loon. Willis seems like a sane enough guy who just likes having fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted October 11, 2004 In addition to wanting the Braves to get a damn evening game tommorow, I want the Cards to win so I can STOP hearing about Lima everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 "The Dodgers borrowed the thundersticks from their fellow team in Orange County..." 'Cause the Angels sure don't need them anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
