cbacon 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: Iraqi freedom veteran supports you Dear Mr Moore, I went to Iraq with thoughts of killing people who I thought were horrible. I was like, "Fuck Iraq, fuck these people, I hope we kill thousands." I believed my president. He was taking care of business and wasn't going to let al Qaeda push us around. I was with the 3rd Squadron, 7th Cavalry, 3rd Infantry division out of Fort Stewart, Georgia. My unit was one of the first to Baghdad. I was so scared. Didn't know what to think. Seeing dead bodies for the first time. People blown in half. Little kids with no legs. It was overwhelming, the sights, sounds, fear. I was over there from Jan'03 to Aug'03. I hated every minute. It was a daily battle to keep my spirits up. I hate the army and my job. I am supposed to get out next February but will now be unable to because the asshole in the White House decided that now would be a great time to put a stop-loss in effect for the army. So I get to do a second tour in Iraq and be away from those I love again because some guy has the audacity to put others' lives on the line for his personal war. I thought we were the good guys. From: Michael W Sent: Tuesday July 13 2004 12.28pm Subject: Dude, Iraq sucks My name is Michael W and I am a 30-year-old National Guard infantryman serving in southeast Baghdad. I have been in Iraq since March of 04 and will continue to serve here until March of 05. In the few short months my unit has been in Iraq, we have already lost one man and have had many injured (including me) in combat operations. And for what? At the very least, the government could have made sure that each of our vehicles had the proper armament to protect us soldiers. In the early morning hours of May 10, one month to the day from my 30th birthday, I and 12 other men were attacked in a well-executed roadside ambush in south-east Baghdad. We were attacked with small-arms fire, a rocket-propelled grenade, and two well-placed roadside bombs. These roadside bombs nearly destroyed one of our Hummers and riddled my friends with shrapnel, almost killing them. They would not have had a scratch if they had the "Up Armour" kits on them. So where was [George] W [bush] on that one? It's just so ridiculous, which leads me to my next point. A Blackwater contractor makes $15,000 [£8,400] a month for doing the same job as my pals and me. I make about $4,000 [£2,240] a month over here. What's up with that? Beyond that, the government is calling up more and more troops from the reserves. For what? Man, there is a huge fucking scam going on here! There are civilian contractors crawling all over this country. Blackwater, Kellogg Brown & Root, Halliburton, on and on. These contractors are doing everything you can think of from security to catering lunch! We are spending money out the ass for this shit, and very few of the projects are going to the Iraqi people. Someone's back is getting scratched here, and it ain't the Iraqis'! My life is left to chance at this point. I just hope I come home alive. From: Specialist Willy Sent: Tuesday March 9 2004 1.23pm Subject: Thank you Mike, I'd like to thank you for all of the support you're showing for the soldiers here in Iraq. I am in Baghdad right now, and it's such a relief to know that people still care about the lemmings who are forced to fight in this conflict. It's hard listening to my platoon sergeant saying, "If you decide you want to kill a civilian that looks threatening, shoot him. I'd rather fill out paperwork than get one of my soldiers killed by some raghead." We are taught that if someone even looks threatening we should do something before they do something to us. I wasn't brought up in fear like that, and it's going to take some getting used to. It's also very hard talking to people here about this war. They don't like to hear that the reason they are being torn away from their families is bullshit, or that their "president" doesn't care about them. A few people here have become quite upset with me, and at one point I was going to be discharged for constantly inciting arguments and disrespect to my commander-in-chief (Dubya). It's very hard to be silenced about this when I see the same 150 people every day just going through the motions, not sure why they are doing it. [ Willy sent an update in early August ] People's perceptions of this war have done a complete 180 since we got here. We had someone die in a mortar attack the first week, and ever since then, things have changed completely. Soldiers are calling their families urging them to support John Kerry. If this is happening elsewhere, it looks as if the overseas military vote that Bush is used to won't be there this time around. From: Kyle Waldman Sent: Friday February 27 2004 2.35am Subject: None As we can all obviously see, Iraq was not and is not an imminent threat to the United States or the rest of the world. My time in Iraq has taught me a little about the Iraqi people and the state of this war-torn, poverty-stricken country. The illiteracy rate in this country is phenomenal. There were some farmers who didn't even know there was an Operation Iraqi Freedom. This was when I realised that this war was initiated by the few who would profit from it and not for its people. We, as the coalition forces, did not liberate these people; we drove them even deeper into poverty. I don't foresee any economic relief coming soon to these people by the way Bush has already diverted its oil revenues to make sure there will be enough oil for our SUVs. We are here trying to keep peace when all we have been trained for is to destroy. How are 200,000 soldiers supposed to take control of this country? Why didn't we have an effective plan to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure? Why aren't the American people more aware of these atrocities? My fiancee and I have seriously looked into moving to Canada as political refugees. From: Anonymous Sent: Thursday April 15 2004 12.41am Subject: From KBR truck driver now in Iraq Mike, I am a truck driver right now in Iraq. Let me give you this one small fact because I am right here at the heart of it: since I started this job several months ago, 100% (that's right, not 99%) of the workers I am aware of are inflating the hours they claim on their time sheets. There is so much more I could tell you. But the fact is that MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars are being raped from both the American taxpayers and the Iraqi people because of the unbelievable amount of greed and abuse over here. And yes, my conscience does bother me because I am participating in this rip-off. From: Andrew Balthazor Sent: Friday August 27 2004 1.53pm Subject: Iraqi war vet - makes me sound so old Mr Moore, I am an ex-military intelligence officer who served 10 months in Baghdad; I was the senior intelligence officer for the area of Baghdad that included the UN HQ and Sadr City. Since Bush exposed my person and my friends, peers, and subordinates to unnecessary danger in a war apparently designed to generate income for a select few in the upper echelon of America, I have become wholeheartedly anti-Bush, to the chagrin of much of my pro-Republican family. As a "foot soldier" in the "war on terror" I can personally testify that Bush's administration has failed to effectively fight terrorists or the root causes of terror. The White House and the DoD failed to plan for reconstruction of Iraq. Contracts weren't tendered until Feb-Mar of 2003, and the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance (the original CPA) didn't even come into existence until January 2003. This failure to plan for the "peace" is a direct cause for the insecurity of Iraq today. Immediately after the "war" portion of the fighting (which really ended around April 9 2003), we should have been prepared to send in a massive reconstruction effort. Right away we needed engineers to diagnose problems, we needed contractors repairing problems, we needed immediate food, water, shelter, and fuel for the Iraqi people, and we needed more security for all of this to work - which we did not have because we did not have enough troops on the ground, and CPA decided to disband the Iraqi army. The former Iraqi police were engaged far too late; a plan should have existed to bring them into the fold right away. I've left the military. If there is anything I can do to help get Bush out of office, let me know. From: Anthony Pietsch Sent: Thursday August 5 2004 6.13pm Subject: Soldier for sale Dear Mr Moore, my name is Tony Pietsch, and I am a National Guardsman who has been stationed in Kuwait and Iraq for the past 15 months. Along with so many other guard and reserve units, my unit was put on convoy escorts. We were on gun trucks running from the bottom of Iraq to about two hours above Baghdad. The Iraqi resistance was insanity. I spent many nights lying awake after mortar rounds had just struck areas nearby, some coming close enough to throw rocks against my tent. I've seen roadside bombs go off all over, Iraqis trying to ram the side of our vehicle. Small children giving us the finger and throwing rocks at the soldiers in the turrets. We were once lost in Baghdad and received nothing but dirty looks and angry gestures for hours. I have personally been afraid for my life more days than I can count. We lost our first man only a few weeks before our tour was over, but it seems that all is for nothing because all we see is hostility and anger over our being there. They are angry over the abuse scandal and the collateral damages that are always occurring. I don't know how the rest of my life will turn out, but I truly regret being a 16-year-old kid looking for some extra pocket money and a way to college. From: Sean Huze Sent: Sunday March 28 2004 7.56pm Subject: "Dude, Where's My Country?" I am an LCPL in the US Marine Corps and veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Mr Moore, please keep pounding away at Bush. I'm not some pussy when it comes to war. However, the position we were put in - fighting an enemy that used women, children, and other civilians as shields; forcing us to choose between firing at "area targets" (nice way of saying firing into crowds) or being killed by the bastards using the crowds for cover - is indescribably horrible. I saw more than a few dead children littering the streets in Nasiriyah, along with countless other civilians. And through all this, I held on to the belief that it had to be for some greater good. Months have passed since I've been back home and the unfortunate conclusion I've come to is that Bush is a lying, manipulative motherfucker who cares nothing for the lives of those of us who serve in uniform. Hell, other than playing dress-up on aircraft carriers, what would he know about serving this nation in uniform? His silence and refusal to speak under oath to the 9/11 Commission further mocks our country. The Patriot Act violates every principle we fight and die for. And all of this has been during his first term. Can you imagine his policies when he doesn't have to worry about re-election? We can't allow that to happen, and there are so many like me in the military who feel this way. We were lied to and used. And there aren't words to describe the sense of betrayal I feel as a result. From: Joseph Cherwinski Sent: Saturday July 3 2004 8.33pm Subject: "Fahrenheit 9/11" I am a soldier in the United States army. I was in Iraq with the Fourth Infantry Division. I was guarding some Iraqi workers one day. Their task was to fill sandbags for our base. The temperature was at least 120. I had to sit there with full gear on and monitor them. I was sitting and drinking water, and I could barely tolerate the heat, so I directed the workers to go to the shade and sit and drink water. I let them rest for about 20 minutes. Then a staff sergeant told me that they didn't need a break, and that they were to fill sandbags until the cows come home. He told the Iraqis to go back to work. After 30 minutes, I let them have a break again, thus disobeying orders. If these were soldiers working, in this heat, those soldiers would be bound to a 10-minute work, 50-minute rest cycle, to prevent heat casualties. Again the staff sergeant came and sent the Iraqis back to work and told me I could sit in the shade. I told him no, I had to be out there with them so that when I started to need water, then they would definitely need water. He told me that wasn't necessary, and that they live here, and that they are used to it. After he left, I put the Iraqis back into the shade. I could tell that some were very dehydrated; most of them were thin enough to be on an international food aid commercial. I would not treat my fellow soldiers in this manner, so I did not treat the Iraqi workers this way either. This went on for eight months while I was in Iraq, and going through it told me that we were not there for their freedom, we were not there for WMD. We had no idea what we were fighting for anymore. Of course, these e-mails were directed to Michael Moore and will be featured in his new book Will They Ever Trust Us Again? So, who wants to be first to tell these soldiers that their wrong or unpatriotic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 I will just say that anything from Michael Moore is bullshit. That is all. And using the troops like this is just sad. -=Mike ...Who wishes he had the fluff pics to do this fluffy thread justice... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Wow. Given the fact you didn't even read them is examplary of your character. You choosing to ignore anything that may not agree with your stance is sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Wow. Given the fact you didn't even read them is examplary of your character. You choosing to ignore anything that may not agree with your stance is sad. No, it's called going with Moore's track record. These letters are bogus and Moore cannot possibly die quickly enough. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Wow. Given the fact you didn't even read them is examplary of your character. You choosing to ignore anything that may not agree with your stance is sad. Coming from the guy who thinks other countries should get a say in U.S. elections. Oh sorry I didn't mean to ethnocentric there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Basic Report post Posted October 6, 2004 My brother just got back from Iraq for a 2-week leave, and he pretty much said the same shit, the troops don't want to be there and alot of them not all, can't stand bush now because of the shit he has put them through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 My brother just got back from Iraq for a 2-week leave, and he pretty much said the same shit, the troops don't want to be there and alot of them not all, can't stand bush now because of the shit he has put them through. And I call bullshit. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Funny that I have about 6 friends over there and they all tell a much different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Wow. Given the fact you didn't even read them is examplary of your character. You choosing to ignore anything that may not agree with your stance is sad. No, it's called going with Moore's track record. These letters are bogus and Moore cannot possibly die quickly enough. -=Mike Wow, getting personal there eh? Or this just some fabircated notion of anything remotely anti-bush = bogus? Of course individuals such as yourself easily dimiss anything Moore says as (even with factual back-up) as faulty. You should know that there is a growing resentment among the troops, Moore wasn't the one to break this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 6, 2004 My brother just got back from Iraq for a 2-week leave, and he pretty much said the same shit, the troops don't want to be there and alot of them not all, can't stand bush now because of the shit he has put them through. First time, eh? Hell at least mine was how Vengeance wasn't THAT bad of a show........................ Wow, getting personal there eh? Or this just some fabircated notion of anything remotely anti-bush = bogus? Of course individuals such as yourself easily dimiss anything Moore says as (even with factual back-up) as faulty. You should know that there is a growing resentment among the troops, Moore wasn't the one to break this. 1)Moore doesn't want to give you the ACTUAL percentage cause it might not support his argument 2)Facts, Michael Moore? BWAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Wow. Given the fact you didn't even read them is examplary of your character. You choosing to ignore anything that may not agree with your stance is sad. No, it's called going with Moore's track record. These letters are bogus and Moore cannot possibly die quickly enough. -=Mike Wow, getting personal there eh? Nope. Moore has every right to lie, just as I have every right to wish his heart would finally give out and allow that tubby to die for the sake of humanity. Or this just some fabircated notion of anything remotely anti-bush = bogus? Of course individuals such as yourself easily dimiss anything Moore says as (even with factual back-up) as faulty. Umm, it takes little effort to factually disprove every documentary Moore ever made --- including Roger & Me. His films are so GLARINGLY inaccurate that only a lemming or blinded fool attempts to portray them as anything more than clumsy, hackneyed, political propaganda. You should know that there is a growing resentment among the troops, Moore wasn't the one to break this. Funny, I still call bullshit. -=Mike ...Can Moore prove a single letter was from a troop? Just one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 If the letters are fake, then Moore should never have the nerve to show his face around ever again, however if they are legit, the most disturbing thing about them is the common theme of our tax payer dollars being wasted on a lot of the big time profiteers over there basically living like pigs on our money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 If the letters are fake, then Moore should never have the nerve to show his face around ever again, Considering how much the rest of his shit is fake, I doubt these being fake would slow him down for one second. And he'd have plenty on the left applauding him all the way, just as they did with F 9/11. however if they are legit, the most disturbing thing about them is the common theme of our tax payer dollars being wasted on a lot of the big time profiteers over there basically living like pigs on our money. And these are allegedly coming from troops whose opinions vary WIDELY from others. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Funny, I still call bullshit. -=Mike ...Can Moore prove a single letter was from a troop? Just one? Who cares what YOU call. Moore doesn't need to prove anything to you. Since you are so adamanet they are fake, go ahead and PROVE IT. Something tells me NOTHING would be proof enough for you, so why even bother acting like you could be persuaded. No is claiming every single troop over there is against the war and/or Bush, but you are being silly and pretty thick headed if you honestly believe there isn't a percentage, a good one at that, that is angry, feeling a bit betrayed, and maybe possibly felt Michael Moore was one of the few guys they could confide in, since they know his opinions on Bush and the war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Basic Report post Posted October 6, 2004 My brother just got back from Iraq for a 2-week leave, and he pretty much said the same shit, the troops don't want to be there and alot of them not all, can't stand bush now because of the shit he has put them through. And I call bullshit. -=Mike What? you seem to be the type of guy who think he is always right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 A strident minority: anti-Bush US troops in Iraq Inside dusty, barricaded camps around Iraq, groups of American troops in between missions are gathering around screens to view an unlikely choice from the US box office: "Fahrenheit 9-11," Michael Moore's controversial documentary attacking the commander-in-chief. "Everyone's watching it," says a Marine corporal at an outpost in Ramadi that is mortared by insurgents daily. "It's shaping a lot of people's image of Bush." The film's prevalence is one sign of a discernible countercurrent among US troops in Iraq - those who blame President Bush for entangling them in what they see as a misguided war. Conventional wisdom holds that the troops are staunchly pro-Bush, and many are. But bitterness over long, dangerous deployments is producing, at a minimum, pockets of support for Democratic candidate Sen. John Kerry, in part because he's seen as likely to withdraw American forces from Iraq more quickly. "[For] 9 out of 10 of the people I talk to, it wouldn't matter who ran against Bush - they'd vote for them," said a US soldier in the southern city of Najaf, seeking out a reporter to make his views known. "People are so fed up with Iraq, and fed up with Bush." With only three weeks until an Oct. 11 deadline set for hundreds of thousands of US troops abroad to mail in absentee ballots, this segment of the military vote is important - symbolically, as a reflection on Bush as a wartime commander, and politically, as absentee ballots could end up tipping the balance in closely contested states. It is difficult to gauge the extent of disaffection with Bush, which emerged in interviews in June and July with ground forces in central, northern, and southern Iraq. No scientific polls exist on the political leanings of currently deployed troops, military experts and officials say. To be sure, broader surveys of US military personnel and their spouses in recent years indicate they are more likely to be conservative and Republican than the US civilian population - but not overwhelmingly so. A Military Times survey last December of 933 subscribers, about 30 percent of whom had deployed for the Iraq war, found that 56 percent considered themselves Republican - about the same percentage who approved of Bush's handling of Iraq. Half of those responding were officers, who as a group tend to be more conservative than their enlisted counterparts. Among officers, who represent roughly 15 percent of today's 1.4 million active duty military personnel, there are about eight Republicans for every Democrat, according to a 1999 survey by Duke University political scientist Peter Feaver. Enlisted personnel, however - a disproportionate number of whom are minorities, a population that tends to lean Democratic - are more evenly split. Professor Feaver estimates that about one third of enlisted troops are Republicans, one third Democrats, and the rest independents, with the latter group growing. Pockets of ambivalence "The military continues to be a Bush stronghold, but it's not a stranglehold," Feaver says. Three factors make the military vote more in play for Democrats this year than in 2000, he says: the Iraq war, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's tense relationship with the Army, and Bush's limited ability as an incumbent to make sweeping promises akin to Senator Kerry's pledge to add 40,000 new troops and relieve an overstretched force. "The military as a whole supports the Iraq war," Mr. Feaver says, noting a historical tendency of troops to back the commander in chief in wartime. "But you can go across the military and find pockets where they are more ambivalent," he says, especially among the National Guard and Reserve. "The war has not gone as swimmingly as they thought, and that has caused disaffection. Whether representing pockets of opposition to Bush or something bigger, soldiers and marines on Iraq's front lines can be impassioned in their criticism. One Marine officer in Ramadi who had lost several men said he was thinking about throwing his medals over the White House wall. "Nobody I know wants Bush," says an enlisted soldier in Najaf, adding, "This whole war was based on lies." Like several others interviewed, his animosity centered on a belief that the war lacked a clear purpose even as it took a tremendous toll on US troops, many of whom are in Iraq involuntarily under "stop loss" orders that keep them in the service for months beyond their scheduled exit in order to keep units together during deployments. "There's no clear definition of why we came here," says Army Spc. Nathan Swink, of Quincy, Ill. "First they said they have WMD and nuclear weapons, then it was to get Saddam Hussein out of office, and then to rebuild Iraq. I want to fight for my nation and for my family, to protect the United States against enemies foreign and domestic, not to protect Iraqi civilians or deal with Sadr's militia," he said. Specialist Swink, who comes from a family of both Democrats and Republicans, plans to vote for Kerry. "Kerry protested the war in Vietnam. He is the one to end this stuff, to lead to our exit of Iraq," he said. 'We shouldn't be here' Other US troops expressed feelings of guilt over killing Iraqis in a war they believe is unjust. "We shouldn't be here," said one Marine infantryman bluntly. "There was no reason for invading this country in the first place. We just came here and [angered people] and killed a lot of innocent people," said the marine, who has seen regular combat in Ramadi. "I don't enjoy killing women and children, it's not my thing." As with his comrades, the marine accepted some of the most controversial claims of "Fahrenheit 9/11," which critics have called biased. "Bush didn't want to attack [Osama] Bin Laden because he was doing business with Bin Laden's family," he said. Another marine, Sgt. Christopher Wallace of Pataskala, Ohio, agreed that the film was making an impression on troops. "Marines nowadays want to know stuff. They want to be informed, because we'll be voting out here soon," he said. " 'Fahrenheit 9/11' opened our eyes to things we hadn't seen before." But, he added after a pause, "We still have full faith and confidence in our commander-in-chief. And if John Kerry is elected, he will be our commander in chief." Getting out the military vote No matter whom they choose for president, US troops in even the most remote bases in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere overseas are more likely than in 2000 to have an opportunity to vote - and have their votes counted - thanks to a major push by the Pentagon to speed and postmark their ballots. The Pentagon is now expediting ballots for all 1.4 million active-duty military personnel and their 1.3 million voting-age dependents, as well as 3.7 million US civilians living abroad. "We wrote out a plan of attack on how we are going to address these issues this election year," says Maj. Lonnie Hammack, the lead postal officer for US Central Command, an area covering the Middle East, Central Asia, and North Africa, where more than 225,000 troops and Defense Department personnel serve. The military has added manpower, flights, and postmark-validating equipment, and given priority to moving ballots - by Humvee or helicopter if necessary - even to far-flung outposts such as those on the Syrian and Pakistani border and Djibouti. Meanwhile, voting-assistance officers in every military unit are remind- ing troops to vote, as are posters, e-mails, and newspaper and television announcements. Voting booths are also set up at deployment centers in the United States. "We've had almost 100 percent contact," says Col. Darrell Jones, director of manpower and personnel for Central Command, and 200,000 federal postcard ballot applications have been shipped. "We encourage our people to vote, not for a certain candidate, but to exercise that right," he said, noting that was especially important as the US military is "out there promoting fledgling democracy in these regions." Many of the younger troops may be voting for the first time, he added. Source Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 6, 2004 I have trouble taking these things seriously. It always ends up being some jackass who joined up for the money and thinking their taking advantage of the military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 My brother just got back from Iraq for a 2-week leave, and he pretty much said the same shit, the troops don't want to be there and alot of them not all, can't stand bush now because of the shit he has put them through. And I call bullshit. -=Mike What? you seem to be the type of guy who think he is always right. Didn't refute the bullshit call, I noticed. Who cares what YOU call. Moore doesn't need to prove anything to you. Nah. More precisely, he can't. Since you are so adamanet they are fake, go ahead and PROVE IT. He is the one selling a book with this shit in it. He OUGHT to have verification. . No is claiming every single troop over there is against the war and/or Bush, but you are being silly and pretty thick headed if you honestly believe there isn't a percentage, a good one at that, that is angry, feeling a bit betrayed, and maybe possibly felt Michael Moore was one of the few guys they could confide in, since they know his opinions on Bush and the war. Do some oppose Bush? Of course. They're people with thought. Would they confide in Moore? Fuck no. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 6, 2004 My question is this. If the troops have such a problem why are they sending letters to fucking Michael Moore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 My question is this. If the troops have such a problem why are they sending letters to fucking Michael Moore? Indeed. If I didn't like a pothole in my road, I wouldn't fire off a letter to Rush Limbaugh. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Basic Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Didn't refute the bullshit call, I noticed. Thats what the What? was i was asking you what the hell you are talking about. like i said my brother said he was pissed at all the shit going on over there, and that some of the other tropps are to not all but a lot from what he told me. and why the hell do you type your name after you write something mike? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 My question is this. If the troops have such a problem why are they sending letters to fucking Michael Moore? Because Michael Moore is for truth, and justice and the American Way. He's like Superman in a way. Just never let him near spandex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Those angry troops better watch themselves, or Ann Coulter will label them treasonous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 6, 2004 My question is this. If the troops have such a problem why are they sending letters to fucking Michael Moore? Because Michael Moore is for truth, and justice and the American Way. He's like Superman in a way. Just never let him near spandex. I doubt there's enough on the planet to fit him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 I don't see why people can't believe that these are real. The first poster posted 9 letters. Is it that hard to believe that there are 9 soldiers in Iraq who don't like Bush? (And yes, I know that there will be many more such letters in Moore's book, but still, it's not he's claiming everyone in Iraq feels this way. I'd be surprised if there were more than a hundred letters in that book.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Didn't refute the bullshit call, I noticed. Thats what the What? was i was asking you what the hell you are talking about. like i said my brother said he was pissed at all the shit going on over there, and that some of the other tropps are to not all but a lot from what he told me. and why the hell do you type your name after you write something mike? Because I can and it really pisses off the easily-pissed-off. And we know what group you fit in. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Those angry troops better watch themselves, or Ann Coulter will label them treasonous. But Michael Moore's got their back right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Those angry troops better watch themselves, or Ann Coulter will label them treasonous. But Michael Moore's got their back right? Well, as long as they don't have to look at him. No need to increase the suffering. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 6, 2004 I don't see why people can't believe that these are real. The first poster posted 9 letters. Is it that hard to believe that there are 9 soldiers in Iraq who don't like Bush? Because it's Michael Moore. If these guys have such a problem with the war I can think of oh about 600 people that would be better to send letters too. What's Michael Moore going to do for them? Eat a hamburger? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 It's a crediblity issue is all. Are there upset soldiers in Iraq? Freaking duh, it's a warzone. Don't expect them to be eating tea and crumpets while singing campfire songs. I bet you could find soldiers who really hated WWII. It's a war. I have a problem when people see one letter and go, "SEE! EVEN THE TROOPS ARE AGAINST IT!" when some of them still believe they are doing the right thing. This is really about as non-issue as you can get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites