Guest Loss Report post Posted October 18, 2004 well I think his character portrays his african american side, but he is very proud of his samoan side too so I can't fault him for recognizing it...remember he was a member of NOD for awhile, a spin on the Black Panters/Nation Of Islam...I would be curious to see the title on Benjamin or Jordan as neither one of them is portrayed as a thug or a rapper or a dancer or a basketball player or a birdman or anything else stupid...it's similar to the japanese guys, they're almost always portrayed as sneaky and evil or clumsy and stupid...i mean, Tajiri speaks SOME english doesn't he? I'm sure Kenzo does to, but damned if I know it or not... Problem with that is that they get an audience like that because of the product they put out. It's a total self-fulfilling prophecy. A smarter, slightly more sophisticated product would attract a smarter, slightly more sophisticated fanbase, most likely with more dispensable income to boot. The Rock being black isn't a matter of personal opinion by the way. That's gotta be the most ludicrous thing I've seen ... well ... ever on a message board. i personally dont consider the rock to be a black wwf champion ???????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 The Rock being black isn't a matter of personal opinion by the way. That's gotta be the most ludicrous thing I've seen ... well ... ever on a message board. I'm missing your meaning here Loss...are you referring to something I said with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 18, 2004 The Rock being black isn't a matter of personal opinion by the way. That's gotta be the most ludicrous thing I've seen ... well ... ever on a message board. I'm missing your meaning here Loss...are you referring to something I said with that? No, I quoted what I was referring to right below that. curry_man2002 said it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 Apologies good sir... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 Orlando Jordan ........ legitamate workers that can bring awesome matches........ of course I could just be talking outta my ass... Well you certainly were when you said that. Anyway, I might be getting confused here, but Rock is of Samoan descent... so why would that make him African-American? Does his family include a lot of African lineage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmazingRen 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 His dad Rocky Johnson is 100% African-American Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 Is he really? I always thought he was a Samoan. Guess you learn something new every day, thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Awww come on Clean Rob, Orlando Jordan is decent enough to pull out a good match... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bigm350 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 The Rock not black? I thought he was half black/half Samoan. Also, does anybody know what Ricky Steamboat's nationality is? I know he is half Japanese, but is he also Samoan, as well? I heard a rumor he might also have Native American ancestry. I know his real last name is Blood. Sounds somewhat Native American to me, not sure though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Ricky Steamboat is American. His mother is Japanese and his father is Hawaiian I believe. The Rock is half black, half Samoan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bigm350 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Ok. So his ancestry is pretty much Asian then. Most Hawaiins that I've seen, other than Samoans, have a look of Asian ancestry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Awww come on Clean Rob, Orlando Jordan is decent enough to pull out a good match... Well why doesn't he then? His match with UT was passable I guess, but that was all Taker IMO. I have yet to see any display of charisma from the man, and I his moveset is just so very very bleh. He's like a black Garrison Cade (alright he's not that bad... but still.) I don't want him anywhere near any titles - he should be getting squashed by Akio on a weekly basis. Benjamin, on the other hand - big push for that man please. And a decent finisher too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Remember, in Andre vs Hogan they touted Andre as being undefeated for 20 years when in fact he has lost quite a few matches prior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Benjamin, on the other hand - big push for that man please. And a decent finisher too. Mr. Benjamin should use that t-bone suplex but do it Dr. Death style and run his opponets into the corners 1st. The set up would be the Splash in the corner then put the opponet in the t-bone the run into the opposite corner then do the running powerslam! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 I'd rather see him do a wrist clutch varation. But your idea is pretty nifty also. Either way, he seriously needs a named finisher now that the Dragon Whip has been toned down and reduced to a signature spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 If the Dragon Whip is going to be used as the finisher it should be the last resort and only used in long matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest curry_man2002 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 I beleive he should have used the stinger splash as his fininsher. But i also like the idea of him being able to finish a match in a variaty of different moves e.g splash, dragon whip, t-bone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 The Splash and Dragon Whip look like setup moves to me and the T-bone is not flashy enough to get a crowd reaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Buzz 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 I think he should go ahead and take his love of Sting to another level with the Benjamin Deathlock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
