GOP Voter Drive Accused of Tossing Cards

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GOP Voter Drive Accused of Tossing Cards

 

 

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By DEBORAH HASTINGS

 

AP National Writer

 

In several battleground states across the country, a consulting firm funded by the Republican National Committee has been accused of deceiving would-be voters and destroying Democratic voter registration cards.

 

Arizona-based Sproul & Associates is under investigation in Oregon and Nevada over claims that canvassers hired by the company were instructed to register only Republicans and to get rid of registration forms completed by Democrats.

 

``We treat these complaints very seriously,'' said Oregon Secretary of State Bill Bradbury. The Democratic office-holder said three complaints were filed with election officials throughout the state. He declined to provide details, citing the continuing investigation.

 

Substitute teacher Adam Banse wanted a summer job with flexible hours, so he signed up to knock on doors in suburban Minneapolis and register people to vote.

 

He quit after two hours. ``They said if you bring back a bunch of Democratic cards, you'll be fired,'' Banse contends. ``At that point, I said, `Whoa. Something's wrong here.'''

 

Nathan Sproul, a former head of Arizona's Republican Party and the state's Christian Coalition branch, denies any wrongdoing and accuses Democrats of making things up.

 

``This is all about making accusations,'' Sproul said Thursday. ``They allege fraud where none exists and get the media to cover it.''

 

Republican National Committee spokeswoman Heather Layman responded that her party accepts all voters, and she accused the Democratic Party of operating under this mandate: ``If no sign of voter fraud exists, make it up, manipulate the media into covering baseless charges and spread fear.''

 

Sproul declined to name the states in which his company conducted registration drives. His political consulting firm was founded last year and has received nearly $500,000 from the RNC since July, according to federal election records.

 

Former canvassers such as Banse have come forward in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Nevada and Oregon in the past two weeks alleging they were told to register only Republicans and to ``walk away'' from people who said they intended to vote for Democrat John Kerry.

 

Some said Democratic registration forms had been thrown out or ripped up.

 

It is illegal to tamper with voter registration cards, which are numbered and issued by local election officials. In some states, including Oregon, such acts are felonies.

 

Eric Russell of Las Vegas told The Associated Press that he watched a Sproul supervisor tear up eight to 10 registration forms completed by Democrats and managed to grab some of the shredded documents as evidence. State officials are investigating his claim.

 

Russell said that Voters Outreach of America, the name under which Sproul employees operated in Nevada and other states, owes him hundreds of dollars for registering residents but refuses to pay him.

 

Sproul called Russell simply a disgruntled employee.

 

Prompted by Russell's accusations, Clark County Democrats unsuccessfully went to court last week to try to persuade a state judge to reopen voter registration in their county, which encompasses Las Vegas.

 

In West Virginia, Lisa Bragg said she refused a sorely needed $9-an-hour job to register voters after attending an orientation session conducted by Sproul employees.

 

Like Banse in Minnesota, she said canvassers were discouraged from registering Democrats and were told to misrepresent themselves as poll takers.

 

Bragg, who filed a complaint earlier this week with the West Virginia secretary of state's office, said Friday that canvassers were given a script that read at the bottom, ``Our goal is to register Republicans.''

 

She called the registration drive dishonest, adding, ``I believe everyone has the right to vote. Even though I'm a Democrat, I would have registered Republicans to vote.''

 

In Pennsylvania, Democrats in the state House of Representatives have asked the attorney general to investigate complaints from former Sproul canvassers who said they had been instructed to not register Democrats. About 40 to 50 also complained they had not been promptly paid.

 

In Pittsburgh, library patrons protested that Sproul employees were pressuring people to register as Republicans at tables set up outside a Carnegie Library branch.

 

A similar incident was reported in Oregon in September, when the manager of Medford library headquarters refused a Sproul request to register voters after learning the firm was affiliated with Republicans.

[Guest CronoT]

Sounds like the shit is about to hit the fan. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Karl Rove, or some other highly plced member of the GOP is behind or involved in this.

 

Personally, I think these people should be thrown in jail and forgetten about until they're in their 70's.

[Guest MikeSC]

Sounds like the shit is about to hit the fan. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Karl Rove, or some other highly plced member of the GOP is behind or involved in this.

 

Personally, I think these people should be thrown in jail and forgetten about until they're in their 70's.

And you'd support the same for the MASSIVE problems the Dem voter drives have had?

-=Mike

...I wouldn't mind seeing Shrum in jail...

[Guest CronoT]

Sounds like the shit is about to hit the fan. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Karl Rove, or some other highly plced member of the GOP is behind or involved in this.

 

Personally, I think these people should be thrown in jail and forgetten about until they're in their 70's.

And you'd support the same for the MASSIVE problems the Dem voter drives have had?

-=Mike

...I wouldn't mind seeing Shrum in jail...

Source?

[Guest MikeSC]

Sounds like the shit is about to hit the fan. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Karl Rove, or some other highly plced member of the GOP is behind or involved in this.

 

Personally, I think these people should be thrown in jail and forgetten about until they're in their 70's.

And you'd support the same for the MASSIVE problems the Dem voter drives have had?

-=Mike

...I wouldn't mind seeing Shrum in jail...

Source?

http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/cat_voter_fraud.html

-=Mike

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

there's no doubt there'll be a bit of a clusterfuck in Ohio on November 2nd

[Guest MikeSC]

And we have this lovely story from FL:

Early voting brings cries of bullying

 

By Brittany Wallman

Staff Writer

 

October 23, 2004

 

On Election Day, voters will be protected from campaign pressures by a 50-foot cone, an invisible barrier that campaign workers cannot breach. Not so for early voters.

 

While the Voter's Bill of Rights in state law says they have a right to "vote free from coercion or intimidation by elections officers or any other person," a glitch in the newer early voting law does not include the same 50-foot guarantee.

 

As a result, with early voting taking place in busy public places like City Halls and libraries, voters are voicing complaints of being blocked by political mobs, or being singled out for their political views. Others say they have been grabbed, screamed at and cursed by political partisans of all stripes.

 

Republican Rep. Tom Feeney of Oviedo said the antagonizers are "Kerry thugs" out to harass Bush voters.

 

"If you ask me whether I believe there is an organized effort to intimidate Republican voters, the answer is absolutely yes," said Feeney.

 

The Republican Party is calling on the secretary of state's office for help, asking that early voting rules be clarified.

 

The secretary of state's office has not yet responded.

 

"Significant numbers of people have already been deterred from voting," wrote Republican Party Chairwoman Carole Jean Jordan to Secretary of State Glenda Hood, "and this will continue until corrective measures are taken."

 

Democratic Party officials in Tallahassee said they've had some complaints, too.

 

"We have had incidents as well," said Christine Anderson, spokeswoman for the Kerry campaign. "We've had quite a few."

 

She said the party hasn't taken affidavits from voters and found it shocking the Republicans were so focused on the issue rather than working to make sure people can vote.

 

"It's just absurd they would try to accuse us of intimidation efforts," said Anderson.

 

Permits in Palm Beach County show that the SEIU union and other Democratic groups have been holding rallies at early voting locations, where they have a captive audience of voters standing in line. Elections Supervisor Theresa LePore said the lines are long because voters are brought in by the busload.

 

"Special interest groups are trying to whip everybody into a frenzy and get everybody upset," she said. "Campaigns and their observers are confronting the workers and the voters. Things have gotten nasty and ugly."

 

LePore said the county has an ordinance that forbids interference in county business in the building and they are citing that law to the campaigners. Her attorney has told her that an area at each polling place can be set aside for solicitation so she planned to do so.

 

LePore said campaign workers followed voters into polling places and handed out literature next to the voting machines. Other voters standing in line were told the machines don't work and that they should vote absentee.

 

Gisela Salas, deputy elections supervisor in Broward County, said even though early voting "doesn't have that voter solicitation rule, so to speak," her office has posted signs saying "no campaigning beyond this point" and have had cooperation for the most part. Still, there were complaints in Broward.

 

Florida Senate Minority Leader Ron Klein, D-Boca Raton, one of the co-sponsors of the early voting law, said it's a shame that everything must be spelled out.

 

"I wish people would use common sense in terms of how they approached these things," said Klein. "It's a new law. Certainly there's a few things we need to go back in the legislation and fix. We are going to have to go back and put more specific rules in about how early voting should work."

 

State Rep. Irv Slosberg, a Democrat from Boca Raton, said he wasn't happy with the early voting, either, because the rules changed daily.

 

"Someone from the elections office has to come out rather than relying on the county library to make these decisions," said Slosberg. "That's what's happening. It's up to the library people. ... Every day's a new game."

 

Republican Party senior adviser Mindy Tucker Fletcher said she had more than a dozen affidavits from voters around the state that would be forwarded to Hood's office.

 

According to the affidavits Fletcher released:

 

One woman who voted early in Boca Raton, at the Southwest County Regional Library, complained that as she stood in line, two men behind her were "trashing our president," Fletcher said, declining to identify the woman. She tried to ignore them. Then the man touched her arm and said, "Who are you voting for?"

 

"I said, `I don't think that's an appropriate question,'" the woman said she responded.

 

"Uh oh! We have a Bush supporter here," screamed the man behind her.

 

For the 2 1/2 hours she had to wait in line, she was heckled by the man. As they neared the voting room, someone in the rear of the line yelled, "I sure hope everyone here is voting for Kerry!" she reported.

 

That's when the man behind her held his hand over her head and screamed, "We have a Republican right here!" There were "boos and jeers" from the crowd.

 

"I felt intimidated, harassed and threatened!" the woman wrote in her complaint to the Republican Party.

 

Elaine Fandino complained to the Republican Party that she took her mother to vote on South Military Trail in Palm Beach County and was confronted by 25 people supporting John Kerry for president. The crowd was "very angry and used foul language," she reported. She said the man next to her said, "Where's my shotgun?"

 

In Broward County, at the regional library in Pembroke Pines, a voter complained that Kerry supporters used abusive language about President Bush and had signs and banners within 50 feet of the entrance.

 

Kerry supporters were "shoving anti-Bush propaganda at us," complained the voter, who said he shouted back "Vote President Bush!"

 

A woman who voted in Plantation at the West Regional Courthouse said she was offended to see five or six people with "huge stick on badges" for Kerry/Edwards, standing near the voting machines.

 

"Never in all the years of voting do we remember being allowed to show a badge or poster or literature while inside the area where the voters are standing ready to cast their vote," she wrote.

 

[b/Juan D'Arce of Miami complained to the Republicans that he tried early voting in downtown Miami. He was wearing a Bush pin, but he couldn't stand the taunting, so he turned away and did not vote.

 

Howard Sherman complained about his voting experience at North Shore Branch Library in Miami-Dade County. He found a crowd of Kerry supporters blocking the door.

 

"They were positioned directly in front of the entrance to the library in such a manner that it would be impossible to avoid them while entering the polling place," he reported.

 

Sherman said he tried to slip through the thinnest part of the crowd, but a woman in a Kerry T-shirt grabbed his arm and asked if he was voting for Kerry.

 

"I seem to recall from civics class that this sort of electioneering is illegal," Sherman complained to the Republicans.[/b]

 

Republican Lawrence Gottfried, who became a poll watcher in Delray Beach after what he thought was inappropriate behavior at the polls, said the things he saw upset him.

 

Gottfried said that while working at the Delray poll, actor Danny DeVito and his wife, actress Rhea Perlman, showed up. Gottfried is a fan, but he didn't ask for an autograph.

 

"I said, `Look Mr. DeVito, I'm a big fan of yours and Rhea's, but you are blocking the entrance. You're campaigning, you've got a Kerry-Edwards button on, and it's not appropriate."

 

Gottfried, who used to be a Democrat, said the things he saw were "ridiculous."

 

"There is a time for partisanship and it's OK to have a different point of view, but don't violate the sanctity of the polling area," he said.

 

Buddy Nevins contributed to this report.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/pal...=sfla-news-palm

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

there's no doubt there'll be a bit of a clusterfuck in Ohio on November 2nd

Ain't that the truth?

GOP Challenges Approximately 35,000 New Registrants

(10/23/04) — State Republicans are challenging the veracity of approximately 35,000 new voter registrants where election cards were returned as undeliverable by the U.S. Postal Service. The challenges filed yesterday stretch across 65 of Ohio's 88 counties. Republicans blamed "so-called 'five-27' Democratic front groups" like America Coming Together for the challenged registrations. The designation refers to independent soft-money political groups registered under section five-27 of the IRS tax code. There were approximately 17,000 challenges in Cuyahoga County. State Republicans say that was the most in any single county. David Sullivan is the voter protection coordinator for the Ohio Democratic Party. He called today's challenges an "unprecedented effort to throw tens of thousands of voters off of Ohio's voting rolls."

http://www.fox8cleveland.com/dynamic/story...tegory=140#4532

-=Mike

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Along with elderly people being called and told to vote in the wrong place.

 

And a guy named Larry Russell who had to resign from his GOP-GOTV job in South Dakota, who is now working to GOTV for the GOP in Ohio. While being under investigation back in South Dakota.

 

Out of those 35,000 challenges.. i'm going to say that not even 3500 come back in the favor of the GOP. A lot of it will slow down the system in Ohio, a state without early voting.

 

Of course.. I'm not totally sure if you want to start kicking elderly people off the voting rolls, it's possible, since they vote heavily Democrat. You've already come out against the right to vote for Rap Fans and People you deem to be stupid.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

I dont think we're gonna have a winner on Nov. 3, and memebers of both parties will be to blame, no matter how many specific articles confined to one party's misdeeds people paste here.

[2GOLD 0]

Both parties are full of whiny jack offs who will cry like they lost the Super Bowl and demand recounts for the next two to three months.

 

Oh well, at least utter chaos begins on my birthday and what more could a man ask for?

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Better sell like mad if you own any stocks before November 2nd.

[Guest MikeSC]

Along with elderly people being called and told to vote in the wrong place.

Source?

And a guy named Larry Russell who had to resign from his GOP-GOTV job in South Dakota, who is now working to GOTV for the GOP in Ohio. While being under investigation back in South Dakota.

Source? Forgive me if I don't take dailykos or Billionaires for Bush as legitimate sources.

Out of those 35,000 challenges.. i'm going to say that not even 3500 come back in the favor of the GOP. A lot of it will slow down the system in Ohio, a state without early voting.

Ah, but the alleged allegations against Russell are ABSOLUTELY true and undeniable, eh? But, hey, false registrations and bullying voters are a major component in Dem strategy.

 

But how DARE they question the legitimacy of registrations. Democrats would NEVER do that --- well, unless it involved Nader.

Of course.. I'm not totally sure if you want to start kicking elderly people off the voting rolls, it's possible, since they vote heavily Democrat. You've already come out against the right to vote for Rap Fans and People you deem to be stupid.

I never said do away with their right. I said they shouldn't vote. There is a world of difference.

 

But, I know, you need all of the idiots possible to try and get your boy elected.

-=Mike

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Along with elderly people being called and told to vote in the wrong place.

Source?

http://www.dispatch.com/election/election-...1022-A1-00.html

 

Voters report fake calls

Instructions to change polling place don’t come from board of elections

Friday, October 22, 2004

Suzanne Hoholik

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

The caller interrupting a North Side couple’s dinner earlier this week said he was from the Franklin County Board of Elections.

 

He told the elderly woman that her voting site had changed and that on Nov. 2 she and her husband should cast their ballots at a South Side precinct. The caller even left the phone number of the board.

 

Her husband, who didn’t want their names published out of fear of retribution, called the board, sat through a long menu of automated options and finally spoke with an employee.

 

"They said there was no way in the world they would make such a call," he said. "I think it’s hankypanky and somebody in the election is trying to kill some votes."

 

At no time, Elections Director Matthew Damschroder said, does the board call voters.

 

"The only communication from the board of elections is printed on official board of elections paper with the logo," he said.

 

"If they’re saying they’re the board of elections, that’s a violation of the law. My recommendation to them would be to cease and desist."

 

His office has received about a dozen calls since last week from voters checking on similar calls.

 

Damschroder said there are two scams: The caller tells voters their precincts have changed or the caller offers to pick up an absentee-ballot application, deliver the ballot to the voter and return the completed ballot to the elections office.

 

By law, the elections board mails absentee ballots and the only deliveries are made to voters in nursing homes by both a Republican and Democratic elections worker. The only person who can return an absentee ballot, besides the voter, is an immediate family member.

 

"People are calling saying, ‘I got a call last night when I was watching Oprah from this group,’ " Damschroder said. "By law, the board of elections does not give anybody a ballot to deliver."

 

Carlo LoParo, spokesman for Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, said he hadn’t heard about the scams. But he said he was glad to hear that voters who had received calls reported them to the elections board.

 

"Election fraud, voter intimidation or providing voters with wrong information is unacceptable," he said. "Anyone engaging in this activity will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

"Anyone contemplating this type of malicious activity should think twice."

 

All county boards of elections already had planned to send cards informing voters of their voting precinct, Damschroder said, a move that could combat some of these calls.

 

"The cards will be dropped (in the mail) next Monday for delivery Wednesday," he said.

 

And a guy named Larry Russell who had to resign from his GOP-GOTV job in South Dakota, who is now working to GOTV for the GOP in Ohio. While being under investigation back in South Dakota.

Source? Forgive me if I don't take dailykos or Billionaires for Bush as legitimate sources.

 

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2...ate/state02.txt

 

GOP workers take campaign jobs in Ohio

 

SIOUX FALLS (AP) — Larry Russell, who left the state Republican Party's get-out-the-vote operation when questions arose about absentee ballot applications, has joined Republican campaign efforts in Ohio.

 

According to an internal Republican Party memo obtained by the Argus Leader, three other GOP workers who resigned also will be involved in the Ohio campaign.

 

The absentee ballot application process has been questioned by students on campuses in Brookings, Vermillion, Yankton and Spearfish.

 

They have said men obtained their applications but that the documents carried the notarized signature of a woman. State law requires notaries who sign an absentee ballot application to witness the voter signing the application.

 

Jason Glodt, executive director of the South Dakota Republican Party, confirmed the memo was authentic. But he said he did not want to comment on an internal communication.

 

The memo was e-mailed to Republican staffers and officials Sunday evening by Glodt.

 

"Todd Schleckeway, Nathan Mertz and Eric Fahrendorf have also been recruited to Ohio to work with Larry on the President's campaign," the e-mail said.

 

Fahrendorf was a party employee. Schleckeway and Mertz were independent contractors for the get-out-the-vote operation. Independent contractors Joe Alick and Rachel M. Hoff, whose notary seal and signature are on some of the questioned applications, also resigned, but they were not mentioned in the memo.

 

Brendon Cull, spokesman for the Ohio Democratic Coordinated Campaign, said the Bush-Cheney campaign should send the workers back to South Dakota.

 

"These guys appear to be pretty bad actors who are coming to Ohio to do more of what they did in South Dakota, and I think that's unfortunate for the people of Ohio," Cull said. "I would hope they wouldn't do anything nefarious. Based on their record, they don't belong in Ohio."

 

Jason Mauk, spokesman for the Ohio Republican Party, said the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio had nothing to do with bringing the three from South Dakota and that it was a state party decision. Mauk said Russell works as a field coordinator for voter turnout efforts in Cuyahoga County, including Cleveland.

 

"He stepped down from his position in South Dakota after taking responsibility for the actions of some employees who worked under his supervision," Mauk said. "He was never involved in fraudulent activity, nor has he been accused of any wrongdoing."

 

In South Dakota, Russell has been replaced by Herb Jones, who ran Republican John Thune's Senate campaign in 2002.

 

Ah, but the alleged allegations against Russell are ABSOLUTELY true and undeniable, eh? But, hey, false registrations and bullying voters are a major component in Dem strategy.

 

So the Democrat plan is to go to the polls with names like Mary Poppins and Fred Flintstone. Brilliant!

 

Or scare those poor Republican voters. (Florida really passed that early voting law without actual prohibitions on electioneering? Thanks guys)

 

But, do you see why some people would be suspicious when an employee under investigation is moved to a swing state? I'd assume you wouldn't be.

 

But how DARE they question the legitimacy of registrations. Democrats would NEVER do that --- well, unless it involved Nader.

 

It'll be a fun day at the polls as people are repeatedly challenged to prove that they've resided in Ohio for 30 days. That involves two contacts to verify your residence.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/...23922184171.xml

The representatives can challenge a voter if they suspect the voter is not a resident of that precinct, is not a citizen or is not at least 18 years old. The voter would be questioned by poll workers and asked to fill out a form swearing he or she is eligible.

 

Of course.. I'm not totally sure if you want to start kicking elderly people off the voting rolls, it's possible, since they vote heavily Democrat. You've already come out against the right to vote for Rap Fans and People you deem to be stupid.

I never said do away with their right. I said they shouldn't vote. There is a world of difference.

 

Yeah.. that's the cleaner way to do things. "Please don't vote. I think you're an idiot". Truely, diplomacy at work.

 

But, I know, you need all of the idiots possible to try and get your boy elected.

 

The Republican party being 100% MENSA. Of course.

 

You have your fair share of idiots too.

[Guest MikeSC]

Along with elderly people being called and told to vote in the wrong place.

Source?

http://www.dispatch.com/election/election-...1022-A1-00.html

 

Voters report fake calls

Instructions to change polling place don’t come from board of elections

Friday, October 22, 2004

Suzanne Hoholik

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

The caller interrupting a North Side couple’s dinner earlier this week said he was from the Franklin County Board of Elections.

 

He told the elderly woman that her voting site had changed and that on Nov. 2 she and her husband should cast their ballots at a South Side precinct. The caller even left the phone number of the board.

 

Her husband, who didn’t want their names published out of fear of retribution, called the board, sat through a long menu of automated options and finally spoke with an employee.

 

"They said there was no way in the world they would make such a call," he said. "I think it’s hankypanky and somebody in the election is trying to kill some votes."

 

At no time, Elections Director Matthew Damschroder said, does the board call voters.

 

"The only communication from the board of elections is printed on official board of elections paper with the logo," he said.

 

"If they’re saying they’re the board of elections, that’s a violation of the law. My recommendation to them would be to cease and desist."

 

His office has received about a dozen calls since last week from voters checking on similar calls.

 

Damschroder said there are two scams: The caller tells voters their precincts have changed or the caller offers to pick up an absentee-ballot application, deliver the ballot to the voter and return the completed ballot to the elections office.

 

By law, the elections board mails absentee ballots and the only deliveries are made to voters in nursing homes by both a Republican and Democratic elections worker. The only person who can return an absentee ballot, besides the voter, is an immediate family member.

 

"People are calling saying, ‘I got a call last night when I was watching Oprah from this group,’ " Damschroder said. "By law, the board of elections does not give anybody a ballot to deliver."

 

Carlo LoParo, spokesman for Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, said he hadn’t heard about the scams. But he said he was glad to hear that voters who had received calls reported them to the elections board.

 

"Election fraud, voter intimidation or providing voters with wrong information is unacceptable," he said. "Anyone engaging in this activity will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

"Anyone contemplating this type of malicious activity should think twice."

 

All county boards of elections already had planned to send cards informing voters of their voting precinct, Damschroder said, a move that could combat some of these calls.

 

"The cards will be dropped (in the mail) next Monday for delivery Wednesday," he said.

Wow. You implied that, you know, the Republicans were behind this.

 

But, yes, Russell should have no place in any GOTV movement in any state at any point.

Ah, but the alleged allegations against Russell are ABSOLUTELY true and undeniable, eh? But, hey, false registrations and bullying voters are a major component in Dem strategy.

 

So the Democrat plan is to go to the polls with names like Mary Poppins and Fred Flintstone. Brilliant!

Um, yes, actually. Mary Poppins was actually one of the names alleged to have been filled out by that guy who registered voters for crack.

Or scare those poor Republican voters. (Florida really passed that early voting law without actual prohibitions on electioneering? Thanks guys)

Funny, the Republicans don't seem to be engaging in those activities. I guess they assumed people would have common sense and know better.

But, do you see why some people would be suspicious when an employee under investigation is moved to a swing state? I'd assume you wouldn't be.

About as suspicious as I'd be of a GOTV group using felons to get names and personal info.

 

You know, that thing several months ago people like YOU laughed about?

But how DARE they question the legitimacy of registrations. Democrats would NEVER do that --- well, unless it involved Nader.

It'll be a fun day at the polls as people are repeatedly challenged to prove that they've resided in Ohio for 30 days. That involves two contacts to verify your residence.

And that's bad for...what reason?

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/...23922184171.xml

The representatives can challenge a voter if they suspect the voter is not a resident of that precinct, is not a citizen or is not at least 18 years old. The voter would be questioned by poll workers and asked to fill out a form swearing he or she is eligible.

I suppose you'll enlighten us as to what the, you know, PROBLEM is. People suspected of not living in a precinct will be asked to prove they're from there. Well, gee, how cruel. They might ask for photo ID next!

 

Oooooh! SCARY!

Of course.. I'm not totally sure if you want to start kicking elderly people off the voting rolls, it's possible, since they vote heavily Democrat. You've already come out against the right to vote for Rap Fans and People you deem to be stupid.

I never said do away with their right. I said they shouldn't vote. There is a world of difference.

 

Yeah.. that's the cleaner way to do things. "Please don't vote. I think you're an idiot". Truely, diplomacy at work.

Why be diplomatic when they're too ignorant to be able to understand it? Just give them a bong and a frisbee, ensuring that both of their brain cells will be too pre-occupied to vote.

 

But, I know, you need all of the idiots possible to try and get your boy elected.

 

The Republican party being 100% MENSA. Of course.

 

You have your fair share of idiots too.

Apparently ours can actually fill out a ballot properly. And they also, apparently, realize that not filling out a ballot properly isn't disenfranchisement.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

And we have this lovely story from FL:

IMO anyone who has a problem like that should complain to their city government, state government, not political party. All you're going to do by talking to them is escalate it into a partisan issue.

[Guest MikeSC]

And we have this lovely story from FL:

IMO anyone who has a problem like that should complain to their city government, state government, not political party. All you're going to do by talking to them is escalate it into a partisan issue.

Perhaps the Democratic Party should muzzle its attack chihuahuas.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

I didn't read long enough to see if the people in that woman's story ("Oh, we got a Republican here!" *boos* *hiss*) were hired or instructed by the Democratic Party. I did read the text of her complaint though, and it sounds like she didn't know either. In which case, it'd be best to complain to your government.