The OAO HOLY SHIT THE RED SOX WON~! Thread

[Guest Brian]

What you're talking about AS isn't a rivalry. It's a squash.

[Brett Favre 0]

Red Sox can prove that it wasn't a fluke, and the Yankees can prove that it was.

[Slayer 0]

This is why Anglesault is one of the stupidest fuckers on this board

Tell me, what do the Red Sox have left to prove by winning at this point? What can the Yankees possibly gain back by winning?

So you only liked the ''rivalry'' because you liked holding the "curse" and 1918 and all that shit over the Sox fans' heads and that you never cared about being competitive

 

Essentially, you're no better than the neighborhood bully who finally got his come-uppance

 

Even your fellow Yankee fans are disagreeing with you

 

Face it, you're just wrong

[Guest Anglesault]

Red Sox can prove that it wasn't a fluke, and the Yankees can prove that it was.

But it still happened. Fluke, aberration, what have you, the one thing this whole rivalry was centered on just happened.

 

If the Yanks win next year, 2004 Sox aren't going to be wiped away or asterisked.

 

Maybe something will happen to make this a big deal again. But I don't think it can ever be what it once was.

[Star Ocean 3 0]

There's that pro wrestling mentality. This isn't like Chris Jericho beating HHH in a non title match, it's baseball.

[Brett Favre 0]

It is what it is. The fact that the Sox won, sorta shows that it actually is a rivalry. The Yankees now know that they CAN lose, and that shit happens. Pedro becoming a Yankee, the Yankees blowing them out by like 20 runs, another brawl, or players talking shit to the media will spark the feud once again. Of course it will never be what it once was, but it's still the greatest feud in sports. Why should it end now? Because the Sox won? Do you think the Sox just want the feud to end? I doubt it. It's probably what they look forward to the most. And they weren't going to lose on purpose just to keep the feud alive. What's the fun in that? Atleast now we know that anyone can win. Makes it that much better.

[Guest Anglesault]

This is why Anglesault is one of the stupidest fuckers on this board

Tell me, what do the Red Sox have left to prove by winning at this point? What can the Yankees possibly gain back by winning?

So you only liked the ''rivalry'' because you liked holding the "curse" and 1918 and all that shit over the Sox fans' heads and that you never cared about being competitive

It's what made it different.

 

Any two teams can be competitive and play each other and dislike each other. Hell the Yankees and the Royals did for 10 years. No one cares anymore.

 

What makes this any different than a rivarly between the Yankees and Angels, who had more than their share of problems this year?

[Brett Favre 0]

But there was never a curse with the Royals or Angels. There was with the Yanks/Sox, and now the media is hyping the year 2000, and A-Rod Curse. There was the curse, and now it's part II of the rivalry. You can't say that about the other ones, because the only thing that started those were "competitive games". Totally different here.

[Guest Anglesault]

It is what it is. The fact that the Sox won, sorta shows that it actually is a rivalry.

It's a rivalry. So is Yankees vs. A's.

 

Pedro becoming a Yankee, the Yankees blowing them out by like 20 runs, another brawl, or players talking shit to the media will spark the feud once again.

 

Again, that (excluding Pedro, of course) could all pertain to the Yankees and Angels.

[Guest Anglesault]

But there was never a curse with the Royals or Angels..

And there's not one with the Yankees and the Red Sox now. I'm not going to get into this based on what used to be. It's over. Dead. The Curse is gone and not worth mentioning unless referring to the 2004 Red Sox. They're now two teams that hate each other, no different than the Mets and the Braves or whatever.

 

 

 

and now the media is hyping the year 2000,

Oh, the four year curse. Hold me down.

 

and now it's part II of the rivalry

I agree. And I don't care for part two.

[Brett Favre 0]

I can't change how you look at the rivalry. We'll just have to see how people react to it, if they do infact face each other again next October.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

I find this argument to be humorous: as a Kings fan, I've argued with several Lakers fans for the past five years, who try to claim that Lakers/Kings (which could be argued is essentially like the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry, although on a much lesser scale), isn't a true rivalry simply because the Kings have never beaten the Lakers, and now I've seen Anglesault claim that Yankees/Red Sox was only a rivalry simply because the Red Sox had never beaten the Yankees...

 

Just goes to show that, if you spend enough time on the internet, eventually you'll hear everything...

[Guest Anglesault]

I find this argument to be humorous: as a Kings fan, I've argued with several Lakers fans for the past five years, who try to claim that Lakers/Kings (which could be argued is essentially like the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry, although on a much lesser scale), isn't a true rivalry simply because the Kings have never beaten the Lakers, and now I've seen Anglesault claim that Yankees/Red Sox was only a rivalry simply because the Red Sox had never beaten the Yankees...

 

Just goes to show that, if you spend enough time on the internet, eventually you'll hear everything...

I think the best way to state how I feel is that we just saw the end of an era, and nothing they can do will ever match what they had.

[Guest Brian]

Which was a drawn out squash match. It was Booker T vs. Undertaker

[Guest Anglesault]

Which was a drawn out squash match.

It was something different. Now it's no different than any other baseball rivalry.

[KingPK 0]

I think the best way to state how I feel is that we just saw the end of an era, and nothing they can do will ever match what they had.

Well fine, but don't say "the rivalry is over". That's moronic, for reasons everyone has stated here already.

 

You guys will have to think up some new clever chants and signs now, though.

[Guest Anglesault]

Well fine, but don't say "the rivalry is over".

Well, the "best rivarly in sports" aspect is probably dead. The rivalry itself isn't.

 

Unless something dramatic and drastic happens between these teams next year, the generic "we don't like you! Boo!" just doesn't earn that honor.

[Brett Favre 0]

It will never be we don't like you boo. I just can't see it. Especially with the raising up the flag game.

[Guest Anglesault]

It will never be we don't like you boo. I just can't see it.

It is now. The hook is gone.

[Guest Brian]

It's still not a feud. It's watching you're favorite team come out on top. You're looking for the satisfaction in watching you're team win in the end. Now it's competitive.

[Guest Anglesault]

Now it's competitive.

It always was. The teams were rarely bad, especially bad at the same time.

[Mole 0]

From what I am getting from this is that since the Yankees didn't win, then it isn't a rivarly anymore? That doesn't make any sense.

 

Even though the BoSox beat the Yankees, I hate them just as much as I used to.

 

This has to be the dumbest thing you have ever said AS. This makes ZERO sense.

[Guest Anglesault]

From what I am getting from this is that since the Yankees didn't win, then it isn't a rivarly anymore? That doesn't make any sense.

The whole basis of the rivalry was that the Red Sox couldn't beat the Yankees. They did.

 

And it's still a rivalry. Just a basic one.

[Krankor 0]

I must applaud AS, this is by far your most ridiculous argument ever. If anything it just proves that you can't take losing or letting a rival team get the better of your team. That's just sad and pathetic. Yes, the curse has been reversed and the Sox came back from down 0-3. I would think that would add even more fuel to the fire of a rivalry. Especially doing what has never ever been done coming back from down 0-3 against their biggest foe.

[the max 0]

ri·val·ry ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rvl-r)

n. pl. ri·val·ries

The act of competing or emulating.

The state or condition of being a rival.

 

 

What the Red Sox and yanks had prior to this season was a big brother-little brother relationship, with the Red Sox, really deep down, being insanely jealous of the yanks and their success but masking it as hatred. This lead to the numerous fights and fallings out. They were like brothers. I think that as much as moron yanks fans like AS will deny, there was always a respect on both sides. The Red Sox respected the yanks for being successful and were hellbent on shoving one right up their asses and being better. The yanks respected the Red Sox for always having an attitude for more and coming back to play each day no matter if they were down by one run or twenty. I think the rivalry heated up in recent years because the Red Sox started getting better against the big brother and started beating them at their own game (power, pitchers pulling big wins out of their asses).

 

This season was the ultimate in little brother beating big brother.

[Guest Anglesault]

I must applaud AS, this is by far your most ridiculous argument ever. If anything it just proves that you can't take losing or letting a rival team get the better of your team. That's just sad and pathetic.

I readily admit that the Red Sox were better and wanted to win more.

 

think that as much as moron yanks fans like AS will deny, there was always a respect on both sides

 

I always respected the Red Sox. Certain people, no. The team, yes.

[Mole 0]

From what I am getting from this is that since the Yankees didn't win, then it isn't a rivarly anymore? That doesn't make any sense.

The whole basis of the rivalry was that the Red Sox couldn't beat the Yankees. They did.

 

And it's still a rivalry. Just a basic one.

Well, then it wasn't ever a rivalry.

 

If one team comes out on top all of the time, then there is no basis for the rivalry.

 

When I played soccer in high school, our biggest rival was a team that we beat, then they beat us. You can't have a rival against a team that always beats you. It isn't a true rivalry then.

[cabbageboy 0]

To me a rivalry has to be something where both teams get their share of wins. Duke/UNC in basketball, that's a rivalry. Ditto U of L/UK. In football it is Michigan/OSU. AS's argument is like saying Texas/OU is a rivalry...how can it be? Oklahoma always beats their asses, so there is really no issue here.

 

Yankees/Red Sox was its own bizarre entity. It wasn't ever really competitive enough to be a rivalry per se, since the Yankees always prevailed. If anything it's just become a legit rivalry the past 2 years, given the wild ALCS games.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Feh. It's always been a rivalry; the hatred alone made it a rivalry.

[sfaJack 0]

AS's argument is like saying Texas/OU is a rivalry...how can it be? Oklahoma always beats their asses, so there is really no issue here.

In the past 5 years, yes. Texas has a pretty sizeable edge in the all-time record though at 55-39-5. (I expect Dama to burst in a say that this is meaningless at any moment.)

 

But anyway, I'm so sick of Red Sox/Yankees. It means jack shit outside of New England, though it's a little nice to see the Sox finally get one over on the Yankees. Now they just need to do it again.