Guest SideFXs Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Can we focus on the topic? Tommy Thompson is CORRECT! "There's no question in my mind, and I think to anybody who knows how close this election is," Thompson said later during an interview. "Osama bin Laden would not give out a video report 72 hours before the election unless he wanted to influence it." A BULLY uses intimidation and violence to frighten their victims into submission. When the victim fears the bully and flinches , then he is under the bully's control and will submit to his will. A bully will also resort to violence, if you stand up to him and then blame you for causing the bully to harm you, because you did not do what he wanted. These Osama threats against states that vote for Bush is exactly the same tactic. He knows that, through this war on terror, we are standing up to al qaeda and he is losing control. God help us if we flinch and give into this latest despicable tactic and vote Kerry into office. Osama is betting that the fear of something worse than 911 will convince enough Americans to vote for Kerry. If it works, then Osama, the bully, wins and America will be on its way to submitting to Islam. Does giving the terrorists what they want make us safer, or does it give the terrorist power over us? What happened in your life, when you gave into a bully? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted November 1, 2004 I watched the tape today, the Memri tranlation is spot on. And, yes, he did mean "states" as in provinces at the end not states as in indepednent countries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Osama does know that individual US states can't make foreig-- nevermind.. If it works, then Osama, the bully, wins and America will be on its way to submitting to Islam. So, this is a war against Islam (and not just against terrorists, who just happen to practice a radical brand of Islam) who'll keep an eye on Dearborn? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 God help us if we flinch and give into this latest despicable tactic and vote Kerry into office. So, half the American electorate are already cowed by terrorists, and their capitulation will be complete if Kerry wins the election (which is not an unlikely possibility)? Right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 1, 2004 God help us if we flinch and give into this latest despicable tactic and vote Kerry into office. So, half the American electorate are already cowed by terrorists, and their capitulation will be complete if Kerry wins the election (which is not an unlikely possibility)? Right. Yup. That is basically it. If Kerry is elected, we're no better than Spain and we're simply asking for attacks. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 God help us if we flinch and give into this latest despicable tactic and vote Kerry into office. This may be the most ridiculous earnest sentiment I've seen expressed in this forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 I didn't see this anywhere...the full transcript got released last night, and the real plan comes out: (CNN) -- The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group's goal is to force America into bankruptcy. Al-Jazeera aired portions of the videotape Friday but released the full transcript of the entire tape on its Web site Monday. "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript. He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers." "We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said. He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration." "All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said. Al-Jazeera executives said they decided to post the entire speech because rumors were circulating that the network omitted parts that "had direct threats toward specific states, which was totally untrue." "We chose the most newsworthy parts of the address and aired them. The rest was used in lower thirds in graphics format," said one official. U.S. intelligence officials Monday confirmed that the transcript made public Monday by Al-Jazeera was a complete one. As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States. "Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars. The total U.S. national debt is more than $7 trillion. The U.S. federal deficit was $413 billion in 2004, according to the Treasury Department. "It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced. "And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy." As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America. "So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said. U.S. government officials said Friday that the tape appeared to be authentic and recently made. It was the first videotaped message from the al Qaeda leader in nearly three years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skywarp! 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 Yup. That is basically it. If Kerry is elected, we're no better than Spain and we're simply asking for attacks. -=Mike That is awfully ridiculous. People that want to vote Bush out think he's a terrible, moronic president, not because we think we'll be avoiding attacks by doing so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites