Pride 28

[AmericanDragon 0]

I already read the results and saw some of the fights but the US ppv should be starting now.

 

Discuss.

[the pinjockey 0]

Where the fuck is the sweet ass opening ceremony?!?

[the pinjockey 0]

Fear the beard! Yokoi faced the beard and was destroyed. Herring's beard is going to bring him back to the top of the HW ladder and eliminate anything in it's path.

[the pinjockey 0]

Holy christ Emelianenko/Thompson was fucking priceless.

 

Announcer: JAMES THOMPSONNNNNNNNNNNN!

 

Thompson: *shamrock spaz routine*

 

Announcer: EMELIANENKO ALEXANDRRRRRRRE!

 

Alex (completely bored, thinking): Fucking Fedor, making me do this shit. Is it time for dinner yet?

 

12 seconds in knocks Thomspon the fuck out

 

Alex (thinking): Is it time to eat yet?

[AboveAverage484 0]

I've already seen the Japanese version, but is the PPV over in America yet?

 

I'm ready to do some discussing.

[the pinjockey 0]

The event is over, they are just showing the piece with Gardner now.

 

And I did not know a nose could bend as many ways Jackson's did.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Holy fuck.

 

Rampage is DEAD. D-E-A-D.

 

Bobish falling down was gold.

[the pinjockey 0]

What would we consider the Bobish finish? TKO via cholesterol? Was there any reason for him to go down other than being a fat fuck. I know Hunt hit him a little with the uppercut and caught him with a side kick, but if that knocks you out you should not be at this level.

[AmericanDragon 0]

Well at least he suplexed Hunt.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Herring vs. Yokoi - Sick stuff from Herring. The ref was hilarious because you KNEW he was stopping that fight and then realized that maybe he shouldn't have and then bullshitted his way out of it. He really was writing Yokois death sentence there, though. **

 

Arona vs. Russian Dude - Pretty active ground fight, but repetitive. I watched Arona/Fedor yesterday and this was pretty much a mirror of it where Arona would have a dominant position and then do nothing with it. Gruh. **

 

Overeem vs. Kanehara - Knees kness knees. It's a shame Alistair throws pretty weak shots cause he was throwing everything at Kanehara here. The only thing Overeem proved here was his conditioning, because beating a human punching bag is not an accomplishment. I feel so sad for Kanehara. He makes me wanna say "It's ok lil fella, you can stop taking the beatings now". ***

 

AE vs. JT - Like two bulls. Cept one was really jacked up and one was strong sad-like. **

 

Hunt vs. Bobish - FUCK YEAH. I loved this. Hunt making the comeback after getting mauled by Bobish. Awesome shit. Hunt KO'd him. Bobish lost his legs on that uppercut and it was over. Think of it as the 2004 version of Vovchancyn hitting Goodridge. Gassing may have factored in, but he was seriously KTFO.

 

I *hate* the fact that I got screwed on Henderson/Nakamura and Barnett/Cro Cop. You all would be on suicide watch if it wasn't for the main event delivering, cause I wanted to see these two fights live up to its potential. Motherfuck. DUD.

 

Silva/Rampage: Who can beat Silva? WHO? The guy is the most dominant man to ever compete in MMA. No doubt about it. Even when you think he's down the man comes back to wipe away any doubt. BTW, I LOVE THE MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION! Arona. Henderson. Overeem. They'd all get fucked by Silva, but they'd still have a chance. Rampage had a chance, but shit, Rampage also had blood gushing from his face while he was unconscious. Great story here, great ending. Great match. ****1/4

[AmericanDragon 0]

Hunt vs Bobish was pretty entertaining. Bobish actually looked pretty fast while standing and just tossed Hunt like he was nothing. He might have won if he went for submissions instead of wasting time with knees.

 

edit: Bobish definitely wasn't fast with takedowns. I meant he actually looked light on his feet while he was moving around the ring.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I liked the fact that Hunt *trained* what he won with. He worked that uppercut in training and knew that Bobish would bull rush him (no pun) for the takedown. Smart strategy. Also, I liked Rampages initial counters for the knees; rather than moving backwards like he did in their first fight, he moved forwards. And the man has the best blocks in MMA. Unfortunately he didn't train in counter punching cause Silva leaves himself wide open down the middle.

[Brush with Greatness 0]

In regards to a possible Silva v. Couture fight, it's funny because every time I see Couture fight I think to myself "Oh, he'll take Silva." But then I turn around and watch Wanderlei fight and go "No, he'll take Couture." I honestly have no clue who would win. Couture is such a smart and disciplined fighter and has dominated everyone since dropping down to LH and I potentially favour him, but I just can't bring myself to seeing Wanderlei lose. He's so explosive.

 

Fuck do I want to see that fight.

 

As for the card, the last match really made up for the dissapointment of the crappy stoppages earlier. What the fuck was with those shoulder injuries? Lot of what I'll call weak finishes, not weak in the sense that they were soft, but just anti-climatic/less exciting weak. Cut/ref stoppages just aren't the same as the classic KO. And the two shoulder injuries sucked hard. At first when they said Jackson was cut and they checked him, I was worried that we might have another early stoppage. However, that killer knockout of Jackson made the card. Did you see on the one camera angle how the blood just gushed out to the mat after he fell through the ropes?

 

Give me Silva-Couture already. I can't wait anymore!

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

"oooh...OOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!" - Curry and I watching the shot of Rampage falling into the ropes and blood gushing from his head to the mat.

 

Silva can get KO'd as he has a pretty weak jaw (knocked down by Hendo, Sak, Jackson, Belfort) and Randy has some nice boxing and throws right where Silva is open. In that regard, Couture has a big opportunity. BUT, Silva has a tendancy to get up quickly after getting knocked down and overwhelm his opponents. The good thing with Couture is he dictates the pace and wouldn't let that happen, and as I mentioned in the other thread, dictating the pace is how you beat Silva. Jackson didn't do that. Jackson blocked and didn't really counter punch. He just waited it out. That's being submissive to Silvas attacks and that's giving Silva the time to grab your head and knee you to death. Couture has a big advantage here and it would make for a really awesome fight, cause with Silva, even if you have the advantage he'll never stop.

 

And I second the "Where's the openings", I love the fighter introductions. Cock suckers.

[AboveAverage484 0]

RRR, your new sig should read:

 

"benoitrulz4life is the REAL MMA guru of the TSM forums!"

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Did anyone else spot the Crippler Crossface-like crossface that Bobbish did about 4 and half minutes into his fight ?

 

And Jackson v Silva was excellent stuff, and a real FOTY candidate.

[AboveAverage484 0]

Okay:

 

Haven't seen Choi's fight, Overeem/Kanehara, or Emelianenko/Thompson, so no comment.

 

Hunt vs. Bobish was lackluster, with Bobish controlling for almost the entire fight before gassing out, after which Hunt wins on a weak uppercut and sloppy kick. Hunt was pretty damn gassed as well.

 

Herring destroying Yokoi was fun, because there was a lot of people pimping Yokoi coming into this match and Herring just absolutely obliterated him.

 

Hendo/Nakamura and Cro Cop/Barnett sucked because of the weird finishes. This would have been a bad ass card if those matches had played out.

 

Silva/Jackson was the fight of the year and probably the best Pride fight since Nog/Henderson in December 2002. This match had everything, excellent stand up, some exciting moments on the ground, momentum shifts; everything a good match should stand for. Right now, I see only Couture and Little Nog as threats to Silva in the near future, as he was just imposing in that match, coming back in true champion style after getting in trouble late in the first.

 

Good, but not great card.

[Guest krazykat72]

Okay:

 

Haven't seen Choi's fight, Overeem/Kanehara, or Emelianenko/Thompson, so no comment.

 

Hunt vs. Bobish was lackluster, with Bobish controlling for almost the entire fight before gassing out, after which Hunt wins on a weak uppercut and sloppy kick. Hunt was pretty damn gassed as well.

 

Herring destroying Yokoi was fun, because there was a lot of people pimping Yokoi coming into this match and Herring just absolutely obliterated him.

 

Hendo/Nakamura and Cro Cop/Barnett sucked because of the weird finishes. This would have been a bad ass card if those matches had played out.

 

Silva/Jackson was the fight of the year and probably the best Pride fight since Nog/Henderson in December 2002. This match had everything, excellent stand up, some exciting moments on the ground, momentum shifts; everything a good match should stand for. Right now, I see only Couture and Little Nog as threats to Silva in the near future, as he was just imposing in that match, coming back in true champion style after getting in trouble late in the first.

 

Good, but not great card.

Thompson/Emelianenko was nothing. Thompson got a shot in quick, but Emeliananko tagged him twice and it was over. 13 seconds if I recall correctly.

Overeem.Kanehara was dull and depressing. It was a long beating that Overeeem should have finished in the first round. Choi's didn't air on the NA broadcast (though i wish it had instead of the brutally long Rulon Gardner coverage).

The Herring destruction was fun, but I don't know where Heath goes from here. He's not an elite guy in Pride. It's be nice to see him with some of the UFC heavies.

I enjoyed Hunt/Bobish as a decent match, with a nice belly to belly and Hunt hanging on until the bigger man finally gassed out. I agree that CroCop/Barnett was disappointing. I'd like to see a re-match. Freak accidents happen though.

Henderson/Nakamura was less of a fluke as Dan took charge really quickly.

There's no doubt Silva/Rampage is Fight of the Year. Nothing more really needs to be said, other than I didn't think Silva deserved a yellow card.

 

-Paul Jacobi-

[the pinjockey 0]

I could go for Herring/CroCop II. I would like to see what Herring can do if he doesn't act like he took speed before the fight.

 

As for Thompson/Emelianenko, I agree the fight was pretty worthless, but as I said earlier the prefight looks of the fighters just made it for me.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Herring and Rampage should go to the UFC. Dana White should be on the phone 24/7 trying to get those two guys, because they would add so much to his top two divisions (aka, two of the three divisions that have belts)

[AmericanDragon 0]

Did they show Choi's fight?

[the pinjockey 0]

Nope, the main show ended at about 2 hr 20 minutes give or take a couple and then they went into the Gardner segments which went on for about 25 minutes, I think (my digital feed went to shit at this point so I am not completely sure).

 

And I am still pissed about no opening ceremony.

[AboveAverage484 0]

I kind of feel sorry for Rudo because of the way that Hendo/Naka match ended. Don't worry I'll take pity on you: on November 8th you can change the avatar back, and on the 15th you can change the sig back.

 

I forsee more avatar/sig battles to come in the future. Anyone else wanna join in?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

You are a man of honour, BR4L.

 

I am going to write into PRIDE and tell them to show the damned opening ceremony.

[Guest Deft]

I was unbelievably pissed at CroCop/Barnett. Josh's gameplan was excellent and he had Mirko right where he wanted him. They better do a rematch ASAP, preferrably NYE.

[AboveAverage484 0]

I was unbelievably pissed at CroCop/Barnett. Josh's gameplan was excellent and he had Mirko right where he wanted him. They better do a rematch ASAP, preferrably NYE.

This kind of throws plans out the window for Silva/Cro Cop II, but it leaves the door open for... Silva/Sakuraba IV! Sadly, I think that may be the path they are going.

[Guest Deft]

Yeah. Early rumors are CroCop/Hunt and Sak/Tamura. I'd much rather see Silva/CroCop and Sak/Hendo or something.

[Guest krazykat72]

Yeah. Early rumors are CroCop/Hunt and Sak/Tamura. I'd much rather see Silva/CroCop and Sak/Hendo or something.

I'd hate to see Sak/Henderson since Sak is in no position to be fighting top level fighters at this point in his career.

Sak/Tamura would probably be a really good match and it would be a huge draw in Japan.

 

-Paul Jacobi-

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Screw you all for not liking Nak and Dan. Dan beat him.

 

Beat him.

 

FLAT OUT BEAT HIM.

 

The shoulder injury was a direct result of Dan's crazy knees, and he didn't let up on him at all, he controlled him like fuck and finished him with a badass knee that broke his collar bone.

 

How many other people can say that they have broken someone's collar bone with a knee on the ground like that? ONLY DAN.

 

Even though Silva won, and my sig is awesome because he has a BIGGER chain than Rampage, I'm gonna have to find a way to get Hendo in there. He's the "I come in once a year and win convincingly yet controversially" guy now. He should go to the UFC and rock all the middleweight's faces.

 

Silva would get beat by Couture. Couture would pin him on the ground, and had the first round been a minute longer, Rampage would have finished it. He should have done the same thing in the second round, well I guess he tried but...he died. He fell forward and hung in the ropes, that was fucked up right there. I loved how Silva let go of the Triangle. Think he saw Rampage-Arona?

 

Arona showed that he's a different fighter now, I think he has a shot at submitting Silva, he would know how to take him down and keep him there. Couture would beat him though, there's no doubt in my mind. I love Wand too, but I just don't see him doing it. Oh well, by the time the two organizations would be able to pull it off, Couture would be retired. He's old, he's gotta stop sometime...right?

 

I wondered why Herring was such a big favourite. Not anymore.

 

I was rooting for Hunt the whole time, and as soon as I saw how little effort he put into get up, I knew the fight was over.

 

James Thompson? More like LAMES Thompson.

 

Gardner is too big for Yoshida, but can he finish him?

 

Cro Cop/Barnett was the fight I was looking forward to the most, but it will happen again. I am not worried.

[AboveAverage484 0]

I also have no idea why so many people picked against Herring. He had a considerable height advatage, weight advantage, he's beat better fighters, we actually know something about him, unlike Yokoi who beat a journeyman fighter in Venetiaan and lasted ten minutes with Nogueira in an overrated performance.

 

Randy COULD beat Silva. Would it be pussing out if I said that Randy would win in a cage while Silva would win in the ring? Well, I'm not going to say that because I think Silva would win in either one. His striking is dangerous enough that he could afford to be taken down and still come back and KO Randy later on in the match. Randy has shown susceptibility to submission fighters in the past (Inoue, Overeem) so Wandy might even pull a sub out of his oft-overlooked black belt in BJJ.