strummer 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 From 1wrestling: "1Wrestling.com has learned that Stephanie McMahon has fired one of the Smackdown writers. Dan Madigan, who was responsible for the aborted Hirohito idea, was fired on Friday. According to friends of Madigan, he was fired for not being a suckup, for not staying in touch with the office while attending his father-in-law's funeral, and for sending creative ideas directly to Vince McMahon and not to Stephanie or the other writers. Other sources say he was not well liked and that Smackdown will be better off without him. Those sources point to the Hirohito idea that had originally called for a series of main event matches with Chris Benoit for the title on RAW. Madigan was also responsible for the Mordecai storyline and was the writer who sold Vince McMahon on the idea for the "Eye Scream" movie for Kane." - Madigan also wanted to turn Booker T into a voodoo man gimmick I believe. Probably a good move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Duncan Eternia Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I doubt this will make any difference, now we just get more of Stephanie's ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shutterspeed Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Those sources point to the Hirohito idea that had originally called for a series of main event matches with Chris Benoit for the title on RAW. Madigan was also responsible for the Mordecai storyline and was the writer who sold Vince McMahon on the idea for the "Eye Scream" movie for Kane." I don't know whether to like him, dislike him or feel neutral. Madigan also wanted to turn Booker T into a voodoo man gimmick I believe. Dislike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest uyaljg Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I liked Mordecai, so...meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shutterspeed Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I'm not exactly saying that I hate Mordecai, I'm referring to the storyline, which did nothing significant, redeeming or entertaining whatsoever during its WWE tenure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Good riddance. Even Steph writes better storylines than that guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Duncan Eternia Report post Posted November 6, 2004 You know....I often wonder what a WWE show would be like if a few bitter smarks like us were the writers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 ohhhh I'm quite certain other smarks will find shit to bitch about, as usual... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shutterspeed Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Goes without saying, but at least it'd be a nice change for the community as a whole to not bitch about almost everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Everything is approved by Vince himself...............Madigan isn't the sole reason for those stupid ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shutterspeed Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Vince'll put any shit on TV though. You should know that by now. The only hope is a creative team that can be... creative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 All I ask for is more organization. I can put up with this SE stuff (as long as it isn't TOO over the top like Katie Vick) as long as things have a logical flow to them and it doesn't appear that they are just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks. Like remembering who hates and who and why, and that sort of thing. I don't want to see Benoit & Edge teaming up in a tag match on RAW 2 weeks after ending a bitter feud between them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest uyaljg Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I'm not exactly saying that I hate Mordecai, I'm referring to the storyline, which did nothing significant, redeeming or entertaining whatsoever during its WWE tenure. It wasn't given time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shutterspeed Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Ok then, had it been given more time, what do you think could've been achieved by way of entertaining television? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 ohhhh I'm quite certain other smarks will find shit to bitch about, as usual... Firing a bad writer isn't the same as getting good ones, you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 As crappy as Smackdown has been lately, this is probably a good move, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest uyaljg Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Ok then, had it been given more time, what do you think could've been achieved by way of entertaining television? Undertaker .VS. Mordecai > Undertaker .VS. Heidenrape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shutterspeed Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I doubt that Undertaker/Mordecai would've been much better than Undertaker/Heidenreich as a match. Besides, even if those two gimmicks coming together could've been good, that's only one feud and one match. Where to from there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dazed Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Right idea, wrong reason. Getting rid of one problem, but leaving a larger one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I doubt that Undertaker/Mordecai would've been much better than Undertaker/Heidenreich as a match. Besides, even if those two gimmicks coming together could've been good, that's only one feud and one match. Where to from there? Well, if Vince had gotten behind the Morecai gimmick, then his feud with Undertaker would have been stretched out over a few months, probably via a bunch of DQ's and count-outs. Presumably, if that had gone down, other characters would have been introduced into the feud, possibly even the voodoo version of Booker T. And Undi v Mordecai would certainly have been better than Undi v Heidenrape, because at least Mordecai could have bumped well, and sold better than Heidenrape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Right idea, wrong reason. Getting rid of one problem, but leaving a larger one. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!! QUOTE OF THE DAY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Sounds like a second rate Brian Gewirtz...now thats really sad. Booker T = Voodoo Man? Kenzo Suzuki as a MAIN EVENTER NAMED HIROHITO!? Mordecai!? (The thing wasn't complete crap, but the way it played out...yeesh!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shutterspeed Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I doubt that Undertaker/Mordecai would've been much better than Undertaker/Heidenreich as a match. Besides, even if those two gimmicks coming together could've been good, that's only one feud and one match. Where to from there? Well, if Vince had gotten behind the Morecai gimmick, then his feud with Undertaker would have been stretched out over a few months, probably via a bunch of DQ's and count-outs. Presumably, if that had gone down, other characters would have been introduced into the feud, possibly even the voodoo version of Booker T. And Undi v Mordecai would certainly have been better than Undi v Heidenrape, because at least Mordecai could have bumped well, and sold better than Heidenrape. Yeah, the feud probably would've been stretched out over a few months with with DQ's and count-outs, but what does that do to capitalise on the gimmicks of both men? Adding other characters really wouldn't have done anything to strengthen them as individuals either, and I can't see anyone who'd have a reason to be involved in the feud to begin with, outside of being the token heel with nothing to do, an overly present character in current WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I doubt that Undertaker/Mordecai would've been much better than Undertaker/Heidenreich as a match. Besides, even if those two gimmicks coming together could've been good, that's only one feud and one match. Where to from there? Well, if Vince had gotten behind the Morecai gimmick, then his feud with Undertaker would have been stretched out over a few months, probably via a bunch of DQ's and count-outs. Presumably, if that had gone down, other characters would have been introduced into the feud, possibly even the voodoo version of Booker T. And Undi v Mordecai would certainly have been better than Undi v Heidenrape, because at least Mordecai could have bumped well, and sold better than Heidenrape. Yeah, the feud probably would've been stretched out over a few months with with DQ's and count-outs, but what does that do to capitalise on the gimmicks of both men? Adding other characters really wouldn't have done anything to strengthen them as individuals either, and I can't see anyone who'd have a reason to be involved in the feud to begin with, outside of being the token heel with nothing to do, an overly present character in current WWE. Given the SD writing crew's penchant, at the time, for doing SE-stuff, the finishes would no doubt have involved a grandiose special effects spectacular, which would have at least made it look like a big deal to the casual fans. It might have generated some interest with those fans, which would be capitalizing on the gimmicks of both men. And adding other characters to the feud would have, at least by association, made those characters seem more important, because they were involved in what have probably been the top feud on Smackdown. As for people not having a reason to get involved, then give them a reason, and one that makes sense, or just introduce a new character, whose backstory gives him a reason to get involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shutterspeed Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I doubt that Undertaker/Mordecai would've been much better than Undertaker/Heidenreich as a match. Besides, even if those two gimmicks coming together could've been good, that's only one feud and one match. Where to from there? Well, if Vince had gotten behind the Morecai gimmick, then his feud with Undertaker would have been stretched out over a few months, probably via a bunch of DQ's and count-outs. Presumably, if that had gone down, other characters would have been introduced into the feud, possibly even the voodoo version of Booker T. And Undi v Mordecai would certainly have been better than Undi v Heidenrape, because at least Mordecai could have bumped well, and sold better than Heidenrape. Yeah, the feud probably would've been stretched out over a few months with with DQ's and count-outs, but what does that do to capitalise on the gimmicks of both men? Adding other characters really wouldn't have done anything to strengthen them as individuals either, and I can't see anyone who'd have a reason to be involved in the feud to begin with, outside of being the token heel with nothing to do, an overly present character in current WWE. Given the SD writing crew's penchant, at the time, for doing SE-stuff, the finishes would no doubt have involved a grandiose special effects spectacular, which would have at least made it look like a big deal to the casual fans. It might have generated some interest with those fans, which would be capitalizing on the gimmicks of both men. And adding other characters to the feud would have, at least by association, made those characters seem more important, because they were involved in what have probably been the top feud on Smackdown. As for people not having a reason to get involved, then give them a reason, and one that makes sense, or just introduce a new character, whose backstory gives him a reason to get involved. Well yeah, a pyro-ridden FX fest of an ending or two could work, but that's not exactly what springs to mind when you talk about "DQ's and count-outs". If the ending/s actually had a reason to happen and did so with logic, should, I'd go for it. That would be a great way to capitalise on their gimmicks, and everyone loves a bit of whiz-bang now and again. Even if the extra character warrants involvement, then this being the top feud on SmackDown! would overshadow them and make them seem lesser, even if they did have something worthy to the feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 I'm not exactly saying that I hate Mordecai, I'm referring to the storyline, which did nothing significant, redeeming or entertaining whatsoever during its WWE tenure. It wasn't given time. Well, the guy was also pretty bad, so no big loss. Besides, why do a watered-down version of Taker when you still have Taker in the company? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taker666 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Just as long as it isn't another on-ar talent not named Garrison Cade, Danny or Doug Basham. I really couldn't give a shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Written by 1Wrestling, and you can just feel the bias. He was fired for "not sucking up" and presenting ideas directly to Vince and not through Steph, yadda yadda yadda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted November 6, 2004 We have a OAO firings thread. Keep it all in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites