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So I bought Mastodon's Leviathan today and it's really fucking awesome. I've been digging a lot of Between the Buried and Me lately too, if that is at all helpful.

 

Recommend me shit based on this. More metal now.

 

K.

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Get Mastodon's Remission. If you really like their new one you'll surely like this as well.

 

Also, what do you know about Neurosis? They're aggressive, dirgey, sort of contemplative..like heavy Tool, only better.

 

You might like The Dillinger Escape Plan.

 

I'll hold off on the brutal death unless you want some recs of stuff that's just insanely loud, fast, heavy, and pissed.

 

Incandenza, you might like Mastodon, actually. Half swamp metal band, half hardcore band, only they use bluegrass picking techniques, some southern rock progressions, and cyclic drumming with no surcease. No death growling, and variation far beyond blast and groove breakdowns. They're probably my favorite metal band right now. Unique if nothing else.

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Mastodon are sooo damn good live

 

especially if you can catch them at a smaller club

 

most recent purchase i can recomend is Amorphis "Far from the sun" not as heavy as most of the stuff i know you like from posts on the board but i think you'd still like it

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I just saw them Sunday, opening for Slayer. They were killer, but didn't play long enough, and no one knew who they were.

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I will buy those Sleepytime Gorilla Museum albums. Incandenza has never steered me wrong.

 

I enjoy ridiculously over the top, Roadrunner (the cartoon, not the label) style metal, but I'm not going to recommend any of that. Besides that, it really does have to stand out for me to get into it.

 

Mastodon is good, but I'm already hearing too much about them.

I always liked Nile. The fellow from that band also has a solo album apparently. I wonder how that is.

 

I could use some recommendations myself, actually. I need metal bands that make you says "Now, that's interesting."

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Daughters!

 

Edit: since you said "over the top" in those words, I have to recommend Putrid Pile. It's one ugly drunk short guy from Wisconsin programming blast beats and ripping shreddy chuggy riffs in charming numbers like "Shit Body Painting" and "Severed Head Memento."

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I've heard some Mastodon, actually. They weren't half-bad.

 

I tried out some Neurosis, recently (their most recent album), but I found it boring.

You probably missed the boat. I commented on that album someplace. I didn't have an opinion of it the first time I listened to it, but I gave it a couple more spins in different states of mind, and found parts that get really infectious if you happen to be paying attention. The really drawn out dirge stuff is more there for negative space than anything else, I think. A "grower" I guess. I like it quite a bit.

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The fellow from that band also has a solo album apparently. I wonder how that is.

 

Karl Sanders - Saurian Meditation

 

Seems to strike a balance between a more compositionally involved movie soundtrack and American interpretation of Egyptian music. There is no metal present, beyond a couple instances of electric guitar crunch that reminds us all of why we should be listening to Nile instead. "Of the sleep of ishtar" is probably my recommended pick at the moment.

 

Worthwhile alone time music, but I'd say it's about two or three songs too many.

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I'm equally amazed and saddened by the proliferation of death metal on this board

 

Though I suppose death metal is probably the most popular subgenre of metal in the US

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I recommend Lamb of God and Meshuggah, if you are going to that side of the metal spectrum. The new Lamb of God CD, Ashes of the Wake is amazing, but still falls short of As the Palaces Burn.

 

Meshuggah is just insanley heavy, and I recommend the album Destroy Erase Improve.

 

I'm surprised AoO did not recommend Down when he mentioned Swamp Metal.

 

Also Iron Maiden. Everyone likes Iron Maiden.

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Agent, have you heard any Sleepytime Gorilla Museum? It's avant-art-prog-metal, if you enjoy that kind of thing.

 

EDIT: The following is excerpted from some prog website. It kinda gets the point across re this band:

 

Their music has the same striking, exaggerated, larger-than-life expressiveness. SGM don't simply play music - they perform it: almost every note gets bent, faded in or out, blurted, swallowed, screamed, snarled, shaped in some other over-the-top fashion, and put across as if it might be their last. Even the quietest passages get that kind of emphasis - and the band may stay quiet for five or six minutes, slowly building their way to pounding, crushing, headlong passages that rock like the Crack of Doom. And nobody, not even in Death Metal or Hardcore Punk, rocks harder. Yet they manage to do so without sinking into cliches, to balance right upon the very fine line between intellectualized attempts to rock out and Dummkopf Buttrawk without falling to either side. Some prog-fans might find them harsh, vulgar, and unsubtle, and they definitely play to the cheap seats, but few would deny that their approach accomplishes what it sets out to do.

 

The music they've evolved has very little to do with symphonic, Canterbury, or fusion. Significant parts of it seem to come from the Art Bears - but they somehow make that uncompromising approach reach people without dumbing it down. Echoes appear of Van der Graaf Generator's unhinged song-structures and quavering emotionalism, and of King Crimson's grinding off-kilter riffs. In addition, they have considerable Industrial-Tribalist leanings, a buttload of Heavy Metal influences, and they tend to play progressively-derived ideas in those styles. However, the result rarely comes out like conventional prog-metal. Fans unaware of their less-familiar antecedents may see them simply as a bizarre metal band, one which uses dissonant musical craziness to convey overwhelming emotional craziness.

 

You can read the rest if you search around here.

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I'll probably check them out now. I was curious after hearing the name a couple times, but never really bothered to seek out an opinion.

 

As for the death metal proliferation brought up by Slayer, I think that's mostly because people find power metal really dorky or gay, while death metal just strikes most people as annoying or gross. The latter is easily more widely accepted.

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Chances are you already know of them, but I'll go with Cephalic Carnage.

Them, too.

 

Insanely squirrelly drugged out grindcore. Lots of traditional blast and groove and chugging, only all weird-like, and frequently changing. Very heavy stuff, with lots of extra-low synth bass kicks to signal or enhance the excellent breakdowns. The perfect metal band for loud car stereos.

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For straight metal, you'll never go wrong with the usual suspects...

 

Down - NOLA (not so much for Bustle In Your Hedgerow)

 

Acid Bath - Paegan Terrorism Tactics and When The Kite String Pops.

 

Your less drug infused choices are things like Nevermore I guess. I don't listen to much straight up metal anymore.

 

For Thrash/Death metal

 

Slayer - Reign In Blood. Inventor of death metal and perfector of fast strummed speed/thrash metal, it is required owning and listening for any new initiate

 

Sepultura - Arise, Beneath The Remains...basically everything that came out in the 80's is more than worthy of investigation. Those albums are death innovations that show serious melodic chops. Avoid 90's-current output at all cost.

 

Massacra - The Final Holocaust. Pretty much takes mid 80's Slayer and late 80's Sepultura to their next logical extreme of speed and flutter picked melody. Intense and essential.

 

For modern day death you'll jam out with things like Morbid Angel's Blessed Are The Sick, Suffocation is a sure bet any way you slice it...particularly Pierced From Within. For more high concept crushing you'll go with bands like Nile and Neuraxis, both bands chugging along death's road outside of the constraints of immature crush kill destroy ethics seen in the myriad Cannibal Corpse clones.

 

Your death metal hybrid leaders are Cryptopsy and Cephalic Carnage.

 

For Black metal, you'll start with the usual suspects of Burzum, Immortal, Emperor, Enslaved, Bathory, Darkthrone etc.

 

Personal recommendations to get you started

 

Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger - Black metal with the hypnotic effects of hard techno. Lo fi and an unabashed fist in the face of musics conventional rules.

 

Burzum - Det Som Engang Var.....http://anus.com/metal/burzum.html click here for a pretty decent opinion piece about what Burzum represents and presents.

 

Enslaved - Vikinglgr Veldi. The album that gets my highest recommendation out of this list. Quickly becoming my favourate album (above the mights Emperor's Anthems album even). This record is so beyond most everything else from any genre, it's staggering. Pure NeoClassical Metal beauty.

 

Any Emperor and any Immortal will serve you very well. But with Immortal you might want to start at "At The Hearth Of Winter" and up, then move backwards.

 

Go get all of these yesterday.

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Though I normally don't care for metal, I would recommend stoner metal bands like Electric Wizaerd, Sunn0))), Orange Goblin, etc. Really slow, really load, really awesome.

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Recommend me some Nile to grab.

 

Immortal and Emperor both intrigue me. I suspect Burzum will take time to grow on me, but I see promise there as well.

 

Does there ever come a time when DEP no longer sounds like a car crash in my head? I've tried very hard to like Calculating Infinity before and couldn't really manage. Is the Patton EP or Miss Machine any better?

 

Also: many of my friends enjoy Bongzilla. I have trouble taking this band seriously because their name is fucking Bongzilla.

 

I'm just gonna leave Leviathan in the car for a couple more days and see what happens.

 

K.

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for Nile, you do pretty well with nearly any of their material, but I would mostly recommend their 'In Their Darkened Shrines" album. Probably the most atmospherically crushing album I've heard. The use of egyptian influence comes to full fruition and the effect is heaviness via instrumentation and music, and not implied acts and technicality. The latter is a major plague on most death metal offerings. Listening to Unas, Slayer of God, Churning The Maelstrom, and I Whisper In The Ear Of The Dead is spellbinding.

 

For bands like Burzum, Immortal, Emperor etc, I could probably upload a few songs onto yousendit and link you for investigation.

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