Guest Chasing Dogma Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 Hey guys. Having not seen ROH in a long time (Since Stage 2). I’m thinking of getting a comp knocked up, yet I’m unsure on what matches to get put on it, Part of me is thinking things like Round Robin Challenge 3 The Prophecy Vs The Saints The Briscoes Vs The Prophecy The Briscoes Vs The Saints Generation Next Samoa Joe Vs Homicide World Title Classic Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk (ROH World Title Match) Danny Maff & BJ Whitmer vs. Colt Cabana & Ace Steel vs. The Briscoe Brothers vs. Jack Evans & Austin Aries (Ultimate Endurance Match) Survival of the fittest Homicide vs. Jay Briscoe American Dragon Bryan Danielson vs. Jack Evans Bryan Danielson vs. Austin Aries vs. Samoa Joe vs. Mark Briscoe vs. Homicide vs. Colt Cabana. (Survival of the Fittest Elimination Match) Completion Pure Title Qualifier Winner #1 vs. Pure Title Qualifier Winner #2 (For The Vacant ROH Pure Title) Samoa Joe & The Briscoes vs. Homicide & The Havana PitBulls. DHBD Alex Shelley Vs Doug Williams Samoa Joe vs. Homicide (ROH World Title Match) CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. The Briscoe Brothers (ROH Tag Team Title Match- 2 out of 3 Falls) DBDH p2 Doug Williams Vs Ausin Aries Samoa Joe vs. Colt Cabana (ROH World Title Match CM Punk & Ace Steel vs. Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer (Street Fight) Testing the limit Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Low Ki & Homicide CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. Ricky Reyes & Rocky Romero (ROH Tag Team Title Match) Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson (2 Out of 3 Falls Match) But I figure you guys are probably better than me at doing this, so I’d appreciate it if you could help me out on making a decent list of what’s worth seeing. Thanks guys
Detective Comics Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 Briscoe v Briscoe - I think it is from Honor Invaed Boston.
Guest Dynamite Kido Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 Here are a few I'll throw out there.......there is more stuff, but I'll post recent stuff that I've seen. CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. Ricky Reyes & Rocky Romero (ROH Tag Team Title Match) - Testing the Limit Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson (2 Out Of 3 Falls Match) - Testing the Limit NOTE:Although this match IS a good one, you might wanna leave it off the comp you try and get for the simple fact that it IS 75 minutes long therefore taking up a great deal of space. Samoa Joe vs. Ricky Reyes (Non Title Match) - RRIII -If you are going to worry about any of the matches from Round Robin 3, this is one that you should put on there. This match is stiff as hell and makes for a really fun match. I was more impressed with this match than most of the RR3 tag matches to boot. Spanky vs. Homicide - RRIII -At first watch, I didn't like this match at all. Then after talking with plenty of people that would argue me almost to death about it, I figured I would give it a second chance. WOW, was I happy I did that. One of ROH's best matches of the year, and one of Spanky's best performances that I have seen up to this point. Briscoe Brothers vs. CM Punk & Colt Cabana (ROH Tag Team Title Match) - RRIII -The final match of RRIII and IMO was probably the best tag match of the show. Generation Next (Aries, Shelley, Strong, & Evans) vs. The Briscoe Brothers, John Walters, & Jimmy Rave - Generation Next -Solid 8 man tag......... Samoa Joe vs. Homicide (ROH World Title Match- There Must Be A Winner) - Generation Next -One of their better meetings IMO. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk (ROH World Title Match) - IMO, ROH's MOTY.....so far. At least from what I've seen (the match I'm thinking could be better would be the 10/2 Joe/Danielson match)
Jack_Bauer Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 I'll list the matches I think you need to see. Era of Honor Begins : Low Ki v Christopher Daniels v American Dragon Round Robin Challenge : Christopher Daniels v American Dragon, American Dragon v Low Ki Night of Appreciation : Low Ki v AJ Styles Road to the Title : Doug Williams v American Dragon, Low Ki v The Amazing Red, Christopher Daniels v AJ Styles Crowning a Champion : Low Ki v Spanky v Doug Williams v Christopher Daniels ( 60 Minute Iron Man Match ) Honor Invades Boston : Mark Briscoe v Jay Briscoe, AJ Styles v Low Ki Unscripted : Micheal Shane v Paul London ( Street Fight ) Glory By Honor : Ikuto Hidaka v The Amazing Red, Samoa Joe v Low Ki ( Fight Without Honor ) All Star Extravaganza : Christopher Daniels/Samoa Joe/Donovan Morgan v Low Ki/Homicide/Doug Williams, AJ Styles v American Dragon, Masato Tanaka/Shinjiro Ohtani v Low Ki/Steve Corino Scramble Madness : American Dragon v Doug Williams ( 30 Minute Iron Man Match ) Night of the Butcher : American Dragon v Paul London Final Battle 2002 : Steve Corino v American Dragon v Low Ki v Samoa Joe Beating The Odds : Homicide v Trent Acid, Samoa Joe v AJ Styles v Chris Sabin v Jay Briscoe Bitter Friends, Stiffer Enemies : Homicide v Steve Corino ( No Holds Barred ) Death Before Dishonor 2003 : Doug Williams v Tom Carter, Colt Cabana v BJ Whitmer v Dan Maff v Homicide, CM Punk v Raven ( Dog Collar Match ) Do Or Die : Homicide v Samoa Joe Empire Statedown Showdown : John Walters v Christopher Daniels, CM Punk v Steve Corino Epic Encounter : Paul London v American Dragon ( 2/3 Falls ) Expect The Unexpected : Low Ki/Da Hit Squad v Special K, Samoa Joe v BJ Whitmer v Homicide v EZ Money, Christopher Daniels/Xavier v AJ Styles/Amazing Red Final Battle 2003 : American Dragon v Jay Briscoe, Xavier v John Walters ( Fight Without Honor ), CM Punk/Colt Cabana v Kazushi Miyamoto/Tomoaki Honma Glory By Honor II : Samoa Joe v Christopher Daniels Main Event Spectacles : Homicide v BJ Whitmer ( Fighting Spirit Match ), SAT v Backseat Boyz v Teddy Hart/Jack Evans v Special K v The Carnage Crew ( Scramble Cage ), AJ Styles v American Dragon Night of Grudges : AJ Styles v Paul London Night of Champions : Doug Williams v Christopher Daniels, Amazing Red/AJ Styles v The Briscoes, Low Ki v Jody Fleisch One Year Anniversary : Jay Briscoe v Mark Briscoe, Paul London v Low Ki v AJ Styles Revenge on the Prophecy : BJ Whitmer v Colt Cabana v Paul London v Homicide, Samoa Joe v American Dragon, AJ Styles/Low Ki v Christopher Daniels/Xavier Round Robin Challenge II : CM Punk v Homicide, TWA v The Carnage Crew ( No DQ ), Christopher Daniels v Paul London The Conclusion : SAT v Special K v Carnage Crew v Fast Eddie/Hotstuff Hernandez ( Scramble Match ), The Briscoes v AJ Styles/Samoa Joe, CM Punk v Raven ( Cage Match ) Tradition Continues : AJ Styles v CM Punk, Xavier v Mark Briscoe v John Walters v Homicide, Samoa Joe v Jay Briscoe War Of The Wire : Samoa Joe v AJ Styles, Steve Corino v Homicide ( Barbed Wire Match ) Wrestlerave : Homicide v Trent Acid 2nd Anniversary Show : Samoa Joe v Dan Maff v Low Ki v BJ Whitmer At Our Best : AJ Styles v CM Punk, Samoa Joe v Jay Briscoe ( Steel Cage Match ) Battle Lines Are Drawn : AJ Styles v Homicide, The Briscoes v Samoa Joe/American Dragon, Christopher Daniels/Dan Maff/BJ Whitmer v CM Punk/Colt Cabana/Ace Steel Generation Next : CM Punk/Colt Cabana v BJ Whitmer/Dan Maff, Alex Shelley/Austin Aries/Roderick Strong/Jack Evans v The Briscoes/John Walters/Jimmy Rave, Samoa Joe v Homicide Last Stand : Caprice Coleman v Jack Evans v Slyk Wagner Brown v Hydro v Chris Sabin v Sonjay Dutt, Alex Shelley v Jimmy Jacobs, CM Punk v Homicide Reborn Completion : Doug Williams v Alex Shelley, Homicide/Havana Pitbulls v Samoa Joe/The Briscoes Reborn Stage One : The Briscoes v The Havana Pitbulls, CM Punk v American Dragon, Samoa Joe v Homicide Reborn Stage Two : Nigel McGuinness v Jimmy Rave v Rocky Romero v Austin Aries, American Dragon v Homicide, The Briscoes v CM Punk/Colt Cabana Round Robin Challenge III : Spanky v Homicide, The Briscoes v CM Punk/Colt Cabana Survival Of The Fittest : Mark Briscoe v Colt Cabana v Austin Aries v Homicide v Bryan Danielson v Samoa Joe World Title Classic : Roderick Strong/Alex Shelley v John Walters/Jimmy Rave, Samoa Joe v CM Punk, Austin Aries/Jack Evans v BJ Whitmer/Dan Maff v The Briscoes v CM Punk/Colt Cabana ( Ultimate Endurance ) Testing The Limit : Austin Aries v American Dragon ( 2/3 Falls ) Death Before Dishonor II Night One : Doug Williams v Alex Shelley, John Walters/Matt Stryker/Jimmy Jacobs v Jack Evans/Roderick Strong/Austin Aries, Samoa Joe v Homicide, CM Punk/Colt Cabana v The Briscoes ( 2/3 Falls ) Death Before Dishonor II Night Two : Doug Williams v Austin Aries, Samoa Joe v Colt Cabana, Ace Steel/CM Punk v Dan Maff/BJ Whitmer ( Chicago Street Fight )
Michrome Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 Add Collyer vs. Romero (7/24), Dragon vs. Joe (10/2), Ki vs. lethal (10/2), Homicide vs. Nigel (10/2).
Guest krazykat72 Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 Main Event Spectacles : SAT v Backseat Boyz v Teddy Hart/Jack Evans v Special K v The Carnage Crew ( Scramble Cage ), That match was the most offensive match I've ever seen live. It was the epitome of dumb indy wrestling with a million guys doing a million stupid dives which made all of them mean absolutely nothing in the end. The *only* thing I remember is Teddy Hart making an ass of himself and thats after several other guys did stupid jumps off the top of a cage. -Paul Jacobi-
Jack_Bauer Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 Main Event Spectacles : SAT v Backseat Boyz v Teddy Hart/Jack Evans v Special K v The Carnage Crew ( Scramble Cage ), That match was the most offensive match I've ever seen live. It was the epitome of dumb indy wrestling with a million guys doing a million stupid dives which made all of them mean absolutely nothing in the end. The *only* thing I remember is Teddy Hart making an ass of himself and thats after several other guys did stupid jumps off the top of a cage. -Paul Jacobi- It certainly warrants a viewing from a first time fan. It's a crazy spotfest, and the best scramble match IMO.
Guest OSIcon Posted November 18, 2004 Report Posted November 18, 2004 That match was the most offensive match I've ever seen live. It was the epitome of dumb indy wrestling with a million guys doing a million stupid dives which made all of them mean absolutely nothing in the end. The *only* thing I remember is Teddy Hart making an ass of himself and thats after several other guys did stupid jumps off the top of a cage. -Paul Jacobi- You didn't watch hard enough then. The second scramble cage had a story, but was really a mess in terms of structure. The third was the epitome of "throwing guys in a cage and having them do spots." The first scramble cage, while not really anything special, was NOT "a million guys doing a million dives which made them mean nothing in the end." There were FOUR dives in the match. That really isn't a lot at all considering the circumstances. If you do much less than that, you run the risk of falling into the trap of "Why even run the match in the first place?" If you do more, it kills the impact of the dives. Four is not an extreme amount. There was the Evans-Hart Hurricanrana (which Iis the one spot I really didn't like because it didn't make sense), Evans dive to the outside, Teddy's dive to the outside, and the Spanish Fly. There was the story of the Carnage Crew taking their belts off and whipping Special K as a matter of revenge for Special K whipping the Canrage Crew belts weeks earlier. Evans worked an injury to keep him and Teddy out of the cage for most of the match, thus clearing some clutter from the cage. Teddy and Jack stayed down after the hurricanrana spot for a while. Hydro was done with any and all offense after taking the Spanish Fly and they SAT were even done, selling the impact the move had on them. With the exception of Teddy being stupid post match, he and Jack stayed down after their big dives to the outside. For the most part, there was proper selling. I am not saying this match is great or anything, but is far from how you describe it. I could name 50 matches from the Indies (and TNA) this year that were more "dumb indy wrestling with a million guys doing a million stupid dives which made all of them mean absolutely nothing in the end" than this match was.
Guest Markingout Posted November 18, 2004 Report Posted November 18, 2004 Round Robin Challenge 3 The Prophecy Vs The Saints The Briscoes Vs The Prophecy The Briscoes Vs The Saints Spanky vs Homicide Generation Next 8 way tag Samoa Joe Vs Homicide World Title Classic Stryker, Rave, and Walters vs Roderick,Evans?, and Aries Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk (ROH World Title Match) Danny Maff & BJ Whitmer vs. Colt Cabana & Ace Steel vs. The Briscoe Brothers vs. Jack Evans & Austin Aries (Ultimate Endurance Match) Survival of the fittest Homicide vs. Jay Briscoe American Dragon Bryan Danielson vs. Jack Evans Bryan Danielson vs. Austin Aries vs. Samoa Joe vs. Mark Briscoe vs. Homicide vs. Colt Cabana. (Survival of the Fittest Elimination Match) Completion Pure Title Qualifier Winner #1 vs. Pure Title Qualifier Winner #2 (For The Vacant ROH Pure Title) Samoa Joe & The Briscoes vs. Homicide & The Havana PitBulls. DHBD Alex Shelley Vs Doug Williams Samoa Joe vs. Homicide (ROH World Title Match) CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. The Briscoe Brothers (ROH Tag Team Title Match- 2 out of 3 Falls) DBDH p2 Collyer vs Romero Alex Shelley vs Jimmy Jacobs Doug Williams Vs Ausin Aries Samoa Joe vs. Colt Cabana (ROH World Title Match CM Punk & Ace Steel vs. Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer (Street Fight) Testing the limit Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Low Ki & Homicide CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. Ricky Reyes & Rocky Romero (ROH Tag Team Title Match) Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson (2 Out of 3 Falls Match) But I figure you guys are probably better than me at doing this, so I’d appreciate it if you could help me out on making a decent list of what’s worth seeing.
Mrnoitaull Posted November 21, 2004 Report Posted November 21, 2004 So can you get them on tape? Ill buy them fro somone via ebay.
Guest Lokust Posted November 22, 2004 Report Posted November 22, 2004 The Joe/Briscoe Cage Match from the March 2004 show, as well as the scramble Cage match from the same event. I was there ringside for that show and it was insane. I will never forget seeing a piledriver off the top of a steel cage through 2 tables.
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