WCW facts, tidbits, and stuff people forgot

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I'm more referring to his second stint of booking (1994?) and I remember Foley whining about Flair in Have a Nice Day.

 

He mentions his ECW work and how if Flair had seen that he would've gotten a bigger push.

 

So is Foley just bitter?

Flair didn't see Foley as a main event guy and told him he wasn't "familiar" with his work as a babyface, which Foley took as a slap in the face, since Flair was on the undercard of Halloween Havoc '93 where Foley main evented against Vader. Foley felt as booker that he should have been more familiar with the talent.

 

Flair wanted to turn Mick heel and Mick balked because he thought Flair was trying to bury him. It all depends on who you believe, really.

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How much control did Ted Turner have over WCW? I know he owned the company but how much did he have to do with the booking and day to day operations

He had absolutely nothing to do with the day-to-day operations, which was a large part of the problem, as he was often blindfolded by incompetent people running the show. WCW was also where failed execs in other branches of TBS were sent as punishment.

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Turner signed the checks basically.

 

Foley tends to hate people who say anything negative about him.

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How much control did Ted Turner have over WCW? I know he owned the company but how much did he have to do with the booking and day to day operations

He probably could have done anything he wanted to, but he rarely had anything to do with WCW from a wrestling side.

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Foley probably does have a point about Flair personally being an asshole to him, but that never translated to Flair actually holding him down, nor has Foley ever argued that really. His gripes with Flair were more personality-based.

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True story -- WWF wrestler Jerry Lawler was at an Atlanta Braves game in 1995. He went to Turner's skybox to introduce himself. Ted's response?

 

"Are you one of my wrestlers? Let's crack down on that blading, ok?"

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Anyone remember that god awful Johnny B. Badd/Honky Tonk Man match from Halloween Havok 94?

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How pissed was Turner with what happened to WCW in 2001?

 

Given that Vince bought WCW for about 10 cents- why couldn't Turner buy it back?

 

Oh and how did Vince get WCW for so cheap anyway?

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How pissed was Turner with what happened to WCW in 2001?

 

Very pissed because it happened without his approval.

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How pissed was Turner with what happened to WCW in 2001?

Apparently he was pretty upset. He had no problem with WCW not being profitable because he liked the idea of having original programming, and always credited wrestling with helping make TBS a superstation.

 

Given that Vince bought WCW for about 10 cents- why couldn't Turner buy it back?

 

No way in Hell Vince would sell it. And also, even if he bought it back, when the AOL/Time Warner merger took place, he lost a lot of power over what ended up on his programming. The new blood decided wrestling was too low-brow for them.

 

Oh and how did Vince get WCW for so cheap anyway?

 

Vince should be grateful that more people don't ask that question, as chances are that many laws were violated in the sale of WCW, as Linda McMahon had an inside track in Stu Snyder and other bidders offered to paid more and were shut out.

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What was the name of the jobber that Vader crippled?

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Also, technically, Vince didn't buy WCW. He bought the smaller wrestler contracts, the video library, and the name and all the trademarks. The company is still part of the Time Warner conglomerate, and exists on the books as Universal Wrestling Corporation for tax purposes.

 

That was Vince's way of getting out of existing lawsuits against the company, as well as avoiding the purchase of the big name contracts that hadn't yet expired.

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What was the name of the jobber that Vader crippled?

Joe Thurman.

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Joe Thurman

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So no one has a picture of Galaxy? Can anyone sort of describe the guy?

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So no one has a picture of Galaxy? Can anyone sort of describe the guy?

I have never heard of him until this thread.

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I imagine he's one of the lucha guys. I don't recall him but his name seems to come up when I look at results from 97.

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I might've just blocked him from my memory like Golfer Barry Darsow.

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I think Galaxy was actually a masked Damien 666.

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Galaxy was one of the first lucha workers to come into WCW. He wrestles in Mexico but uses a long name that escapes me now. WCW likely renamed him Galaxy. He had a futuristic look kind of like a trooper from Star Wars. He appeared on a few Nitro's in early 97 against Duggan and Mysterio being the ones I remember. He was also in the WW3 battle royal in 96.

 

Once it dies down this thread should really be added to clasics for future reading. Its awesome.

 

EDIT- The name I found for Galaxy's alter ego is Ultraman 2000. Is there any tie to this name and Damien666?

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Damien666 was Ultraman 2000 in AAA. Had a tremendous Mask v Mask match with Psychosis in March of 1996.

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Galaxy probably teamed with Ciclope.

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Well with it being confirmed that Ultraman was also Damien that means Galaxy is the same guy. That also explains why Galaxy dissapeared once Damien started to appear in WCW.

 

Speaking of Ciclope I never understood why he was just not left as Halloween.

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Double post, sorry

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Quick addon from a question a few pages back regarding wrestlers losing their masks...

 

Psychosis had actually lost his mask in Mexico about two weeks before he lost it on Nitro. WCW heard about it, and decided to give Kidman the small demasking rub. That's why he lost it.

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Psychosis had actually lost his mask in Mexico about two weeks before he lost it on Nitro. WCW heard about it, and decided to give Kidman the small demasking rub. That's why he lost it.

A further sidenote:

 

Initially, he was going to take the mask off as part of the angle where Mexicans were accused of stealing from Eddie Guerrero, so decided to drop the mask in Mexico the month before so he could presumably get a big payday.

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Also, technically, Vince didn't buy WCW. He bought the smaller wrestler contracts, the video library, and the name and all the trademarks. The company is still part of the Time Warner conglomerate, and exists on the books as Universal Wrestling Corporation for tax purposes.

 

That was Vince's way of getting out of existing lawsuits against the company, as well as avoiding the purchase of the big name contracts that hadn't yet expired.

I want to get back to this for a second

 

If WCW is now UWC or whatever Time Warner uses for tax reasons, how does Ted Turner's no-compete clause work? I remember reading that Ted Turner and Time Warner couldn't start up a promotion or run a promotion on TNT or TBS until 2006. Couldn't Time Warner, in theory, "restart WCW" as Universal Wrestling Corporation. Since this isn't a new company, would it violate the no-compete clause.

 

Finally,

 

In 1987, Jim Crockett Promotions purchased (or rather merged depends on how you look at it) Universal Wrestling Federation. Which was Bill Watts' former Mid-South Territory before he decided to expand. Was there a reason that Crockett didn't get UWF's video library? The current holder of that is Bill Watts' ex-wife. Since Crockett didn't get it, Turner didn't get it while meant that McMahon didn't get it. Im

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When did NWA/WCW become infatuated with the WWF? I know Jim Ross in the late 80s and early 90s would make vague references like "These aren't musclebound slugs in the ring here folks, with long hair who play rock and roll music, this is the NWA, this is where we WRESTLE" Then in 94 and 95 on Wordwide, Bischoff made references to "being the #1 wrestling company in the world" and "no stupid gimmicks here in WCW" (This was before Nitro went on the air) Did it go back to the mid 80s during the first WWF boom?

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Was there a reason that Crockett didn't get UWF's video library? The current holder of that is Bill Watts' ex-wife. Since Crockett didn't get it, Turner didn't get it while meant that McMahon didn't get it. Im

Watt's ex-wife got the UWF library as part of their divorce settlement.

 

When did NWA/WCW become infatuated with the WWF? I know Jim Ross in the late 80s and early 90s would make vague references like "These aren't musclebound slugs in the ring here folks, with long hair who play rock and roll music, this is the NWA, this is where we WRESTLE" Then in 94 and 95 on Wordwide, Bischoff made references to "being the #1 wrestling company in the world" and "no stupid gimmicks here in WCW" (This was before Nitro went on the air) Did it go back to the mid 80s during the first WWF boom?

 

That happened when Eric took control, and decided to take on WWF head-on.

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Michael Modest wrestled Cruiserweight Champion The Artist on Nitro, and PINNED HIM, during "Spring Breakout 2000"...the last Nitro before a week off and the Russo/Bischoff restart.