This Week in College Football 11/18 - 11/20

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Obviously in a college football thread a top team will merit its fair share of discussion. The point is that it spirals out of control.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Not to mention that Mike is basically just making shit up to get a rise out of me. Half of the stuff he said is just untrue.

 

And I wouldn't have such a problem with it Slasher if EVERYONE wasn't against OU. And a lot of the time nobody has a valid reason to be. Hell half the time people are only seeing what they want to see.

 

"Well OU gave up 35 points on the road!"

(forgetting the fact that they're playing at very tough places to play against Top 25 teams without there best defensive player)

 

And something that another team does gets them a lot of praise while if OU does the same thing the media lights them up!

Ok man. You got it worse than me, so I'll try to understand. Please just don't undermine Auburn or USC like you do when you say "OU could easily kill and anally rape USC and Auburn" (No I know you don't exactly say that but you sure sound like that.}

[Guest MikeSC]

Mike everything you've said about the Big XII south and OU's schedule is false. You are flat out making things up.

Care to reveal what, precisely, was "made up"?

 

Are you going to argue that Texas is truly an elite team, in spite of their lack of success against competent competition? Are you going to argue that Oklahoma State is the unsung powerhouse in the NCAA?

 

The Big XII as a whole is a horrendous joke this season. Take Auburn out of the SEC West and you still have a damned good LSU team. Take Oklahoma out of the Big XII South and you have a division MAC teams could win.

And OU isn't getting a Nebraska title shot b/c while Nebraska had lost and wasn't int he conference title game and wasn't #2 in the human polls OU is undefeated, did win its conference and IS #2 in the human polls!

I was referring to inferior teams getting shots that should go to teams better than they.

 

Funny how the SEC --- you know, the best conference in football --- has nearly been screwed over TWICE in a row now. LSU barely got in despite winning the SEC and beating much better teams than their opponents. Auburn might get left out with a perfect record against significantly better teams than OU.

SO it's not a Nebraska title shot b/c they deserve to be in and they are getting in. So cry about it all you want b/c they're in.

I weep that the best team of the 3 won't be involved while the weakest of the 3 will be.

You people have no logic when it comes to OU! It's all "They suck and there conference sucks! Nyah!"

Who said "They suck"? They're just worse than USC and Auburn. Which means they're still a top 5 program.

You're the only people in the world I know that can hate on a team this much and give them this much shit for NO reason.

And you're the biggest homer I've seen. Your point?

They've won all their games and they've beaten 4 Top 25 teams and gone undefeated in the 3rd best conference in the country! Yet they're still getting shit. Fuck you guys.

Boo-bloody-hoo. The Big XII is not the 3rd best conference --- ACC, SEC, and PAC-10 are the top 3 this season.

 

Out of respect for alkeiper --- and the fact that you are quite possibly the biggest douche on the planet --- I will not discuss Nebraska Jr. here any longer.

 

Just remember --- you being a prick does not mean you're being baited. It just means that you're a prick.

-=Mike

...I'll just say that if a certain team from a certain Midwest team is involved in the "National title" game, then the game should be renamed immediately...

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Not to mention that Mike is basically just making shit up to get a rise out of me. Half of the stuff he said is just untrue.

 

And I wouldn't have such a problem with it Slasher if EVERYONE wasn't against OU. And a lot of the time nobody has a valid reason to be. Hell half the time people are only seeing what they want to see.

 

"Well OU gave up 35 points on the road!"

(forgetting the fact that they're playing at very tough places to play against Top 25 teams without there best defensive player)

 

And something that another team does gets them a lot of praise while if OU does the same thing the media lights them up!

Man, way to totally miss Al's point.

[Damaramu 0]

Not to mention that Mike is basically just making shit up to get a rise out of me. Half of the stuff he said is just untrue.

 

And I wouldn't have such a problem with it Slasher if EVERYONE wasn't against OU. And a lot of the time nobody has a valid reason to be. Hell half the time people are only seeing what they want to see.

 

"Well OU gave up 35 points on the road!"

(forgetting the fact that they're playing at very tough places to play against Top 25 teams without there best defensive player)

 

And something that another team does gets them a lot of praise while if OU does the same thing the media lights them up!

Ok man. You got it worse than me, so I'll try to understand. Please just don't undermine Auburn or USC like you do when you say "OU could easily kill and anally rape USC and Auburn" (No I know you don't exactly say that but you sure sound like that.}

I'm not saying that! But people here just jump to the conclusion that Auburn and USC would eat OU for lunch.

Speaking of that I'd rather play Auburn b/c while USC hasn't been as impressive there coach scares the hell out of me. He's the reason they're undefeated. Well that and good talent.....but ya know what I mean......

[Guest MikeSC]

Not to mention that Mike is basically just making shit up to get a rise out of me. Half of the stuff he said is just untrue.

 

And I wouldn't have such a problem with it Slasher if EVERYONE wasn't against OU. And a lot of the time nobody has a valid reason to be. Hell half the time people are only seeing what they want to see.

 

"Well OU gave up 35 points on the road!"

(forgetting the fact that they're playing at very tough places to play against Top 25 teams without there best defensive player)

 

And something that another team does gets them a lot of praise while if OU does the same thing the media lights them up!

Man, way to totally miss Al's point.

Don't worry. He'll eventually get tired of lugging his cross around.

 

Or, God willing, somebody will choke in the Big XII title game again.

 

*prays to God*

-=Mike

[Damaramu 0]

Mike OU has played the toughest schedule of the 3. There opponents combined record is the highest. They've beaten 4 top 25 teams. End of story.

Yes Auburn beat teams that were in the Top 10. But if we're saying Texas is horribly overrated the same can be said about every team that Auburn beat.

Not to mention that Auburn's non conference is shit.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

I'm actually hoping one of USC or Auburn lose so that I can revel in the massive internet-wide whinefest that will accompany such a loss.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Not to mention that Mike is basically just making shit up to get a rise out of me. Half of the stuff he said is just untrue.

 

And I wouldn't have such a problem with it Slasher if EVERYONE wasn't against OU. And a lot of the time nobody has a valid reason to be. Hell half the time people are only seeing what they want to see.

 

"Well OU gave up 35 points on the road!"

(forgetting the fact that they're playing at very tough places to play against Top 25 teams without there best defensive player)

 

And something that another team does gets them a lot of praise while if OU does the same thing the media lights them up!

Ok man. You got it worse than me, so I'll try to understand. Please just don't undermine Auburn or USC like you do when you say "OU could easily kill and anally rape USC and Auburn" (No I know you don't exactly say that but you sure sound like that.}

I'm not saying that! But people here just jump to the conclusion that Auburn and USC would eat OU for lunch.

Speaking of that I'd rather play Auburn b/c while USC hasn't been as impressive there coach scares the hell out of me. He's the reason they're undefeated. Well that and good talent.....but ya know what I mean......

Ok then I'm cool with you. *Extends an olive branch*

[Damaramu 0]

Not to mention that Mike is basically just making shit up to get a rise out of me. Half of the stuff he said is just untrue.

 

And I wouldn't have such a problem with it Slasher if EVERYONE wasn't against OU. And a lot of the time nobody has a valid reason to be. Hell half the time people are only seeing what they want to see.

 

"Well OU gave up 35 points on the road!"

(forgetting the fact that they're playing at very tough places to play against Top 25 teams without there best defensive player)

 

And something that another team does gets them a lot of praise while if OU does the same thing the media lights them up!

Ok man. You got it worse than me, so I'll try to understand. Please just don't undermine Auburn or USC like you do when you say "OU could easily kill and anally rape USC and Auburn" (No I know you don't exactly say that but you sure sound like that.}

I'm not saying that! But people here just jump to the conclusion that Auburn and USC would eat OU for lunch.

Speaking of that I'd rather play Auburn b/c while USC hasn't been as impressive there coach scares the hell out of me. He's the reason they're undefeated. Well that and good talent.....but ya know what I mean......

Ok then I'm cool with you. *Extends an olive branch*

Very well may the Orange Bowl be a combined 100 point 7-OT slugfest where they just quit the game and shake hands and decide to combine into one super team to destroy college fb.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

By the way, for people who claim the anti-OU attitude is solely because of Dam, I post on another internet message board completely unrelated to this one, and in the college football thread in the sports folder, all everyone does is bash on OU and Michigan.

[Guest MikeSC]

Mike OU has played the toughest schedule of the 3. There opponents combined record is the highest. They've beaten 4 top 25 teams. End of story.

They played shit teams. Auburn beat Georgia, Tennessee, and LSU --- all three much better than anybody OU has played all season. They beat Tennessee on the road.

 

You can go with teams with good winning records against shit competition. I'll go with teams who are presently 8, 14, and 15 (likely beating #15 AGAIN in the SEC Title game).

 

Your going with a team who beat a comically overrated Texas squad (in no world are they a legit #6), 22, and 23.

Yes Auburn beat teams that were in the Top 10. But if we're saying Texas is horribly overrated the same can be said about every team that Auburn beat.

It could be --- but you'd have to be one blind homer to try and say that.

Not to mention that Auburn's non conference is shit.

Oregon --- your best non-conference --- is nothing to write home about.

-=Mike

[Damaramu 0]

Actually Bowling Green has turned out to be the best non-conference.

Texas is better than Tennessee. Sorry but that's true.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

This thread makes me want to bash my head into a wall repeatedly.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

I don't have anything close-worthy to go on, but to all those who brain cells, I suggest you bail while you still can.

[Damaramu 0]

This thread makes me want to bash my head into a wall repeatedly.

You guys make me want to bash my head into a wall repeatedly. None of you can see past "OU isn't as good......" If I bring any logic about OU or Jason White or The Heisman(which i do a lot) you guys basically ignore it and just talk shit.

It's fucking stupid. None of you have any logic when it comes to OU.

[HarleyQuinn 0]

Texas has faced two #24 teams, a #19 and got shut out by Oklahoma. They'll face #22 this week.

 

Tennessee has beaten #9 Florida, lost to #9 Auburn and beaten #3 Georgia.

 

I don't care what you say Dam, but the higher the team is ranked than usually the better they are as seen with Texas right? Tennessee beat 1 Top 10 team and a Top 5 team! Texas got spanked by the only Top 15 team they faced(#2 Oklahoma) and have beaten 2 teams that are not higher than the Top 20 with one barely better.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I think Texas is a better team than Tennessee when Erik Ainge is injured, and only in that case. Lots of teams are better than Tennessee is right now with their third-string QB taking all the snaps. If Ainge (or even Schaeffer) isn't ready for Atlanta...yikes.

 

If Texas ends up in the Cotton Bowl against Georgia, I think they get waxed. LSU/Texas would be a fine game. I'm hoping one of those two trickle down to the Peach Bowl in the event that Virginia gets there, but I think Florida's more likely for the Peach unless the Outback Bowl wants to give them another shot.

 

I could be going to Orlando to see Virginia/Colorado...Atlanta on New Year's Eve to see Virginia/Florida...Jacksonville on New Year's Day to see Virginia/Notre Dame or West Virginia...or, in a big stretch, New Orleans on the 3rd to see Virginia/Auburn or BC. What a range.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Actually Bowling Green has turned out to be the best non-conference.

 

Bowling Green did go 8-2, but remember it was in the MAC. But the 8-2 record gets counted as the same as Georgia's 8-2 in the computer rankings, which is a whole other issue I have with the BCS.

 

*Interesting note: Auburn was supposed to play Clemson this year, but Clemson bailed. That's why Auburn had to add The Citadel at the last minute.*

[therealworldschampion 0]

Texas is better than Tennessee. Sorry but that's true.

 

Texas folds against anyone with a pulse, they have done that throughout Mack Brown's tenure there(Examples being any of the OU games between 2000 and now, the 2001 Big XII title game where Chris Simms had meltdown #3000, and last year's Holiday Bowl against Washington State in a game that they were big favorites in and got beat.)

 

Funny note, Texas fans were probably overjoyed when Mackovic got fired and replaced with Brown, but Mackovic has actually won Texas' last conference title while Brown had the famous 2001 chokejob.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

*Interesting note: Auburn was supposed to play Clemson this year, but Clemson bailed. That's why Auburn had to add The Citadel at the last minute.*

We had a similar thing happen at Virginia. This year, we were supposed to open the season against UTEP, but Mike Price bailed, wanting to take time to get his new team in order before bringing them against some bigger teams. Instead, we had to thrash Temple. I'd much rather have seen a game against now 8-2 UTEP than that shitkicking, but kudos to Clemson, North Carolina, and Akron for grinding out winning records and some big wins along the way to make the UVA schedule look better.

[therealworldschampion 0]

We had a similar thing happen at Virginia. This year, we were supposed to open the season against UTEP, but Mike Price bailed, wanting to take time to get his new team in order before bringing them against some bigger teams. Instead, we had to thrash Temple. I'd much rather have seen a game against now 8-2 UTEP than that shitkicking, but kudos to Clemson, North Carolina, and Akron for grinding out winning records and some big wins along the way to make the UVA schedule look better.

 

I live in the Philadelphia area and I heard that UVA brought about 20-30K in fans to that game against Temple in Philly. Wali Lundy graduated from a high school in the area too(Holy Cross in Delran, NJ.)

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Yep. It was basically another home game, as was the Duke game - similar attendance setup there. We go all the way when it comes to smushing our pushovers.

 

Speaking of Temple, where do you guys think they'll end up after this year, after getting kicked out of the Big East? Could they get to a winning record in one of the mid-major conferences? As far as regions go, I can't really see anyone but C-USA maybe making the move to get them, but I know the MAC and C-USA already have a lot of shifting going on after this year.

[Guest MikeSC]

Yep. It was basically another home game, as was the Duke game - similar attendance setup there. We go all the way when it comes to smushing our pushovers.

 

Speaking of Temple, where do you guys think they'll end up after this year, after getting kicked out of the Big East? Could they get to a winning record in one of the mid-major conferences? As far as regions go, I can't really see anyone but C-USA maybe making the move to get them, but I know the MAC and C-USA already have a lot of shifting going on after this year.

I don't understand why they don't abandon football. They're a non-entity in the area and I doubt the attendance is anything to write home about.

 

Another conference taking them would be a tough sell, as I have a hard time thinking of what they add to the table.

-=Mike

[the pinjockey 0]

What do they add to the table? Access to Lincoln Financial Field. I would think that is a big plus to a smaller conference.

[therealworldschampion 0]

It's nice for them to play games in the Linc, but it hasn't helped at all. I think they'd be better off moving down to the Atlantic 10 conference, where they play basketball, in D-I AA, even though it would be quite the financial hit on them

[iggymcfly 0]

It's nice for them to play games in the Linc, but it hasn't helped at all. I think they'd be better off moving down to the Atlantic 10 conference, where they play basketball, in D-I AA, even though it would be quite the financial hit on them

Why would it be a financial hit on them? The NCAA takes a very substantial portion of gate revenue on I-A teams, to the point where Temple can't be making a profit. Also, I doubt the gate would even go down that much, as after the initial shock of dropping from a BCS conference to I-AA, the fans would probably be glad to be able to gather around a team that could win a few games.

 

I think the only reason they're staying at I-A is the prestige it affords the school. If you don't play I-A football, you're not thought of as a "major" school at some level, and it might reduce a little of the demand for students, and make it harder to recruit for other sports.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Also, I doubt the gate would even go down that much, as after the initial shock of dropping from a BCS conference to I-AA, the fans would probably be glad to be able to gather around a team that could win a few games.

 

It's pretty much been said around here that Temple will probably drop football rather than move down. Attendance isn't an issue because they don't have anyone showing up for games. The program I believe has lost the school money for about 10 years now.

[AboveAverage484 0]

Man, if Alabama had Brody Croyle, things would be a LOT different for them this year. In fact, it wouldn't be farfetched to say that they would be top 10 in rankings either.

 

It's just that with Pennington at QB they can't generate any kind of offense, so by the time the second half rolls around the defense is worn out and can't hold the opponent like they did in the first half.

 

Oh well.

[Bored 0]

Temple should move to the Sun Belt and see if they can give North Texas a run.