Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I have a proposal for a gentleman's wager. If Mike or his henchmen can produce three (3) credible sources that prove that Canada's rate of violent crime is higher than that of the United States I will let Mike change the following as he sees fit... 1. My signature 2. My avatar 3. My custom user title If he or his cronies fail to do so, then I will be given the above privileges with respect to his account. Judging of source credibility and of the outcome of the bet will be done by a bi-partisan commission consisting of: 1. Cerebus 2. Loss 3. Czech Republic and 4. Rob E Dangerously The gauntlet has been dropped. Be ye man or mouse, MikeSC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I have a proposal for a gentleman's wager. If Mike or his henchmen can produce three (3) credible sources that prove that Canada's rate of violent crime is higher than that of the United States I will let Mike change the following as he sees fit... 1. My signature 2. My avatar 3. My custom user title If he or his cronies fail to do so, then I will be given the above privileges with respect to his account. Judging source credibility and of the outcome of the bet will be done by a bi-partisan commission consisting of: 1. Cerebus 2. Loss 3. Czech Republic and 4. Rob E Dangerously The gauntlet has been dropped. Be ye man or mouse, MikeSC? Look up the statistics. You've already TRIED to disprove it and failed miserably in the effort. I provided my source and you have yet to debunk his claims. And I don't CARE enough to change your avatar or anything. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 First off, shouldn't this be in HD? Secondly, I'm saddened I'm not on the bipartisan council. Looks interesting, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 All apologies Powerplay--I certainly should have included you. I just thought the CE people would care more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 All apologies Powerplay--I certainly should have included you. I just thought the CE people would care more. Why appologize? Frankly, I've been a bit combative as of late, so I do think I need to tone it down. And point taken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Mike, you should have no problem winning this, right? I mean, everything you say, you're able to back up with sources. Like when you said George Soros provided the funding for left-wing blogs. You eventually gave your source for that, and everyone believed you. Correct? This should be no different. Take the bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I'm bipartisan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Mike, you should have no problem winning this, right? I mean, everything you say, you're able to back up with sources. Take the bet. I've already provided my evidence. A comment smitty has already failed to refute. Going with stats from the US gov't and from the Canadian gov't, in a per 100,000 population, Canada's overall, violent, and property crime rate is higher than the US'. I accepted it when I first mentioned it. I just won't change anything of his when I win. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 He won't take the bet. Even if he did, his sources would end up looking like the sources from an Ann Coulter "book." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Mike, provide proof that Kos is bankrolled by Soros, plz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 22, 2004 He won't take the bet. Even if he did, his sources would end up looking like the sources from an Ann Coulter "book." Go defend a Nazi. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 If you guys wanna add Powerplay and Karl Rove to the commission I'm game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Mike, provide proof that Kos is bankrolled by Soros, plz. thx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 22, 2004 If you guys wanna add Powerplay and Karl Rove to the commission I'm game. Feel free. I've provided my source, who provided his source. You are asking for a bet you've already lost. Oh well. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Mike seems to be dodging the question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Mike, provide proof that Kos is bankrolled by Soros, plz. Yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 It certainly does look that way.... Surely Mike would never do a thing like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Okay, I've found a 2003 statistic for violent crime on the statcan site. I have yet to find any equivalent statistic for violent crime on the U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics site. If anybody could locate this statistic--"2003 violent crime rate"--from the site it'd be great. All the stats only go to 2002 anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 22, 2004 http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/legal02.htm http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel04/crimestat102504.htm -=Mike ...Suck on that, kids... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Mike, provide proof that Kos is bankrolled by Soros, plz. Yeah. Concur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 That seems conclusive to me. I said 3 sources but that's alright with me. The panel will rule and Mike shall punish me as he see fits. Or not, if he doesn't want to. If that data is correct, it's weird that all these other places said that Canada's violent crime rate is so much lower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 22, 2004 That seems conclusive to me. I said 3 sources but that's alright with me. The panel will rule and Mike shall punish me as he see fits. Or not, if he doesn't want to. I've already said I'm not going to punish you. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Eureka! I've found the glitch in the system, I think. statcan includes ALL types of assault in its calculation of violent crime. The majority of the violent crimes on the statcan tally are assault--probably mostly minor assaults. The US statistics only include AGGRAVATED assault, which is the most serious kind. If all assaults were included the US rate would be much higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I knew you Canucks were a simple, peace-loving people. The judges will decide if my debunking is valid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I knew you Canucks were a simple, peace-loving people. The judges will decide if my debunking is valid. So you think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Do any members of this commission actually know they're involved in this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Eureka! I've found the glitch in the system, I think. statcan includes ALL types of assault in its calculation of violent crime. The majority of the violent crimes on the statcan tally are assault--probably mostly minor assaults. The US statistics only include AGGRAVATED assault, which is the most serious kind. If all assaults were included the US rate would likely be higher. Your going with ASSUMPTIONS. I'm going with cold-hard data. You STILL have nothing to refute it. ALL I said was "violent crime". I didn't say murder. I didn't say rape. I said "violent crime". -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Even limiting the scope to violent crimes, it is still higher per 100,000 people in Canada than in the US. I hated having to type that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Do any members of this commission actually know they're involved in this? Well, that would ruin the fun now, wouldn't it? And I second the thought of this supposing to be in the Hardcore folder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Do any members of this commission actually know they're involved in this? Well, that would ruin the fun now, wouldn't it? And I second the thought of this supposing to be in the Hardcore folder. Why? It has the pointless tedium of a Hardcore thing, but requires a modicum of thought, which DQ's it from HD. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
