Holly better get fired after tonight

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Everybody in this thread who hated on Holly owe him an apology because Dupree SO deserved that beatdown and you all know it.

[jester 0]

Everybody in this thread who hated on Holly owe him an apology because Dupree SO deserved that beatdown and you all know it.

He may have deserved a beating, but that wasn't the way to go about it.

 

And I wanted Holly canned long before this, so I am not apologizing.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Is there a correct way to go about it? If he'd have beat him down in the parking lot or backstage we'd be hearing the same bitching from everybody. Holly has shown in the past that he isn't the type of guy to sit down and have a calm chat with somebody when there's problems so this was the route he took and I dare say that Dupree has learned his lesson.

[Guest Anglesault]

Holly has shown in the past that he isn't the type of guy to sit down and have a calm chat with somebody when there's problems so this was the route he took

And it should cost him his job. I'm sure you can fire someone on the grounds that he flat out refuses (as you just noted) to act like a civil human being.

[Guest Anglesault]

Actually, IMO, the worst part of this is that "Tough Guy" Bob Holly showed himself to be afraid of Rene Durpree of all people. Since he obviously decided that only "them sissy-men" would handle this in a gentlemenly manner, he should have invited Rene outside to settle this dispute. Instead, the coward ambushes him during a match.

 

Big Man, Bob.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Everybody in this thread who hated on Holly owe him an apology because Dupree SO deserved that beatdown and you all know it.

 

Doesn't matter, it was still unprofessional of him to do and its more absurd that it happened over a freaking speeding ticket of all things.

[justcoz 0]

It was always my understanding that there had to be a certain level of trust in this business. This is their profession. They step into the ring with the general belief that one of their co-workers will not intentionally harm them during their match. It would be one thing if Holly connected with an actual punch to teach Dupree a lesson or just worked a little stiff with him. That happens all the time. Trying to bust someone's eye out and potentially blinding them is another story. Would it have been okay if we found out that Owen Hart didn't protect Steve Austin with his tombstone piledriver because Austin stuck him on a restaurant bill earlier that afternoon? The bottom line is Bob Holly is a pussy because he can't confront anyone face to face over issues. He chooses to take it out on them in the ring. Just like Matt from Tough Enough. That's not professionalism and the jackass shouldn't be in the business.

[NYU 0]

Is there a correct way to go about it? If he'd have beat him down in the parking lot or backstage we'd be hearing the same bitching from everybody. Holly has shown in the past that he isn't the type of guy to sit down and have a calm chat with somebody when there's problems so this was the route he took and I dare say that Dupree has learned his lesson.

He smacked him in the face - FOR REAL - with a steel chair.

 

He didn't just punch him. He didn't just kick him.

 

Oh no.

 

He WALLOPED him in the face with a chair. The worst part? It was in front of a wrestling crowd during a match - and Dupree didn't expect a thing!

 

And this is deserved because Dupree got him a parking ticket? A ticket I'm sure Dupree would have paid off if Holly just threatened him with this course of action, instead of actually going through with it in a sneaky way.

 

There is absolutely no justification for Holly's actions. None. It doesn't matter what Dupree did.

[Guest Quik]

Actually, I agree with Curry. After reading what Dupree did, he fucking deserved an ass kicking for being such a stupid shit. Maybe not in the ring, but an ass kicking none the less.

[Guest Trivia247]

but when Smark darlings do anything unprofessional Suddenly those who want Holly's blood for beating Dupree down for causing legal crap because of a parking ticket he threw away from Holly's Rent a car... would be come Apologists for the likes of Angle, Benoit, Eddie, etc etc.

 

Now now, He may have beaten the guy down to a bloody pulp and then broke his leg....but Angle was stressed, he had a bad day, their stocks fell, someone took their parking place. Someone stole the soap on a rope, just cause a bubbling cauldron of Tension! pity poor angle, do not punish him.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Another thing about Holly is that all the names mentioned that he's injured have all been in the last couple of years. He's been wrestling for a long time so what about the last couple of years has sparked this injury streak?

[Guest Anglesault]

Actually, I agree with Curry. After reading what Dupree did, he fucking deserved an ass kicking for being such a stupid shit. Maybe not in the ring, but an ass kicking none the less.

Invite him outside. Ambushing him in the middle of the match just proves to me that Bob Holly is afraid of Rene Dupree.

[jester 0]

Actually, IMO, the worst part of this is that "Tough Guy" Bob Holly showed himself to be afraid of Rene Durpree of all people. Since he obviously decided that only "them sissy-men" would handle this in a gentlemenly manner, he should have invited Rene outside to settle this dispute. Instead, the coward ambushes him during a match.

 

Big Man, Bob.

Exactly.

 

He basically went after him when his back was turned, and not expecting it.

[jester 0]

Another thing, I don't buy this "Smarks will always defend their heroes and piss on the guys they hate line."

 

If it had been Chris Benoit, I'd be saying the same thing. It's unprofessional and dangerous to go beating up people in the wrestling ring.

 

I'd prefer the offended take that person to court, but I accept that we're not talking about a bunch of veteranarians here. So if you're going to settle it with your fists, do it on a level playing field.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

That's the standard line for everything, though.

 

People seem to be forgetting that "Evil Bob Holly" was nice enough to let Rene Dupree borrow his rental car. He didn't have to do that, if he were a real prick he wouldn't have. And then Dupree broke THAT trust, and didn't give a fuck about it. Had Dupree said "Bob, I'm really sorry, I got a speeding ticket when I was driving your rental, but don't worry I'll pay for it and take care of everything", I doubt Holly would have been mad at all. Did *anything* like that happen? Fuck no, Dupree was a douche about it and deserved what he got.

[Guest LooneyTune]

If it had been Chris Benoit, I'd be saying the same thing. It's unprofessional and dangerous to go beating up people in the wrestling ring.

The difference is when has Benoit EVER took advantage of anyone in the ring? I rest my case. Even in his matches with Kevin Sullivan during the...incident over real-life matters, niether of them were low enough to take cheap shots on each other in front of the crowd because of it.

[Guest Anglesault]

That's the standard line for everything, though.

 

People seem to be forgetting that "Evil Bob Holly" was nice enough to let Rene Dupree borrow his rental car. He didn't have to do that, if he were a real prick he wouldn't have. And then Dupree broke THAT trust, and didn't give a fuck about it. Had Dupree said "Bob, I'm really sorry, I got a speeding ticket when I was driving your rental, but don't worry I'll pay for it and take care of everything", I doubt Holly would have been mad at all. Did *anything* like that happen? Fuck no, Dupree was a douche about it and deserved what he got.

I don't deny that. Invite the man outside. Unless you're afraid of him and feel you have to ambush him to accomplish this.

[Guest Dazed]

There's implicit trust between workers, and Holly has betrayed this. I don't know the full story with the rental car, but there are right and wrong ways to deal with it on Holly's end. Assaulting him is wrong.

[Guest Anglesault]

There's implicit trust between workers, and Holly has betrayed this.

Hell, he's made a career of it.

[Guest Trivia247]

So glad a bunch of Fans can talk about the inner workings of the wrestlers minds that they can tell everyone else about the Trusts and the fellowships within the organizations they are not involved in.

 

Holly got punished by jobbing to a jobber, he did it went on with his life, no one is bitching and moaning to the managment about it. Life is going on.

[Guest LooneyTune]

Holly jobbing to a jobber is hardly punishment. The guy was in a stable called the JOB Squad for a reason. Making HHH or Chris Benoit job out to a no-name in a dark match might be punishment, but Holly? Pfft...he's already comfortable with it considering his 1995-1996 stuff.

[Guest Anglesault]

So glad a bunch of Fans can talk about the inner workings of the wrestlers minds that they can tell everyone else about the Trusts and the fellowships within the organizations they are not involved in.

We watched Tough Enough.

[NYU 0]

So glad a bunch of Fans can talk about the inner workings of the wrestlers minds that they can tell everyone else about the Trusts and the fellowships within the organizations they are not involved in.

 

Holly got punished by jobbing to a jobber, he did it went on with his life, no one is bitching and moaning to the managment about it. Life is going on.

Between this post and the "Noone would be Upset if angle, benoit, or Guerrero did the Same thing", you don't seem to add anything to this thread. Just an observation I had.

 

There should be major repercussions for what Holly did. Obviously, Dupree acted like an asshole to Holly. He definitely should have taken it seriously when Holly confronted him about it, but I'm sure if Holly just laid these threats out to Dupree, Rene would have had no problem paying the ticket.

 

Either way, if you're going to attack the guy, do it in the back. Don't do it in front of an unknowing wrestling crowd and don't do it from behind with a steel chair. Holly is now known for injuring wrestlers when he acts "stiff" - Carlito, Matt Capotelli, etc. Imagine what he can do when he is ACTUALLY trying to hurt a guy. Do you realize the injuries Dupree could have faced there? I mean, we're talking about career-ending stuff. People's careers have ended by a wayward kick to the head when they were expecting it. The effects of a steel chair shot to the head when a guy doesn't know it's coming could be terrible.

 

There's a real chance this could have turned out much worse than it actually did. Holly should not be excused for his behavior here. There are ways to handle a situation like this, and there are ways that are just wrong. Attacking a guy from behind - when he's not expecting it - in front of a wrestling crowd is the wrong way.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Every time I hear about this sacred "trust" wrestlers have with each other in the ring, I just laugh. It's true, wrestlers have to trust each other in the ring... it's just so fucking goofy to hear.

 

There are multiple reasons why Holly took it to the ring:

 

1) Can't get charged. If Dupree pressed charges on Holly attacking him, Bob would have had a much easier time defending himself in court by saying "it was part of the script, this stuff happens all the time in wrestling". Vince has made a living off this.

 

2) If it was in the back, then it would probably have been broken up. PLUS, it could have been infront of management. You'd be a lot better off beating the shit out of a guy away from the eyes of the bosses. In the ring, it would just look like a regular wrestling match.

 

3) He had free shots in a wrestling match, he'd have to at least work for some shots in a 1-on-1. Shit. You can call it cowardly, I call it smart. Besides, if he had jumped him in the back everyone would be calling for his head anyways "Bob Holly is an asshole! He should be fired! There's no just cause for that sort of thing! If he had a problem, he should have just talked it out with Dupree... oh, he approached Dupree about? Dupree laughed at him? ... well, he should have told management!"

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Holly got punished by jobbing to a jobber, he did it went on with his life, no one is bitching and moaning to the managment about it. Life is going on.

 

anyone who thinks jobbing in a dark match is legitimate punishment has to be a major mark. - Dave Meltzer

 

It's noon, and my day has already been made.

[Guest Eric the Eagle]

For the record. I've been a wrestler for three years. After this, I would never knowingly and willingly step in the ring with Bob Holly. He's proven that he can't be trusted with my safety. People may laugh about the "sacred trust", but every time you step in the ring with anyone, you have handed your career and even your life to the person. All it takes is a frickin' bodyslam where he doesn't hold hard enough with his left hand, for God's sake.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

It's still hilarious. Especially considering who is involved...

 

This guy...

 

 

and

 

This guy...

 

He broke the sacred bond of fellowship wrestlers have with one another! The TRUST. THE TRUST!! Without the holy trust wrestling would be NOTHING!

 

And really, Holly has wrestled thousands of matches without complaint. Just don't screw him over... be a tough enough contestant... or get a huge push when you don't really deserve it... And those 3 things are easy to do.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

Question: How do we know that Holly DIDN'T ask Dupree to step outside, but Dupree said no?

 

Second question: How do we know that Holly himself personally injured Carlito? The reports I saw just that that Carlito took a bad bump outside the ring, which to me, sounds like a green worker not knowing how to bump properly and fucking himself up.

[bob_barron 0]

So glad a bunch of Fans can talk about the inner workings of the wrestlers minds that they can tell everyone else about the Trusts and the fellowships within the organizations they are not involved in.

 

Holly got punished by jobbing to a jobber, he did it went on with his life, no one is bitching and moaning to the managment about it. Life is going on.

You need to Stop posting like This.

 

And Holly jobbing in a dark match is not punishment

[Lord of The Curry 0]

For the record. I've been a wrestler for three years. After this, I would never knowingly and willingly step in the ring with Bob Holly. He's proven that he can't be trusted with my safety. People may laugh about the "sacred trust", but every time you step in the ring with anyone, you have handed your career and even your life to the person. All it takes is a frickin' bodyslam where he doesn't hold hard enough with his left hand, for God's sake.

I think it's probably safe to say that there was never any danger of you stepping in the ring with Holly.